Thanks BenLurkin.
Posted on 11/25/2015 9:32:36 PM PST by BenLurkin
That is so far beyond awesome, I’m at a loss for adequate adjectives.
Thanks so much!
Who cares?
Just look at it walking along the plant on its adorable little feetsies!
LOOK AT IT!!!
;D
IIRC, there are some HD videos of these weird creatures. Captivating non-Disney reality.
Have a great Thanksgiving. Looks to be a spectacular day in our neck of the woods.
I am already tearing around YouTube, searching for them.
At this rate, we’re not gonna have a Thanksgiving because I’m doing *that* instead of cooking.
;D
You have a good Thanksgiving, too.
search tip.
I use bing search, water bear, rotifer. That will call up all videos in thumbnail. Allows for discovery of scientific sites that don’t post to youtube. Gives previews for some sites. Pretty quick. So many youtube videos lack correct tags.
the issue it seems is whether they receive the info from actual HGT or from an invasion of virus with bacterial DNA present- it seems they might be able to receive bacterial DNA via HGT- however, another question is whether the info they receive is actually parasitic in nature, or needed for survival as happens between similar kinds (IE bacteria share DNA for the sole purpose of survival- whereas almost every other creature when they receive foreign dna the dna is not for survival but rather is invasive, causes loss of information or causes problems or simply is ‘junk dna’
Viral DNA invades hosts by turning from Mrna to DNA after it’s received into a cell- this is more an invasion than a lateral transfer whereas bacterial transfer to another bacteria shares it’s DNA in a manner that is taken up by the host for the purpose of survival
Now- I’m just guessing at most of this- I have no edumacation in this field- just thinking through logically- Viruses invade, usually, and wreak havoc, or force their host to adapt, but the DNA info remains the virus’ DNA info separate from host as it serves no real purpose other than the survival of the invaded Virus
Thanks again!!
Now I wanna set up one of my spare aquariums with water from the catfish pond.
No one else will have any idea what I’ve done.
LOL
An example of how life 1st got to earth?
Lamarck would approve.
it appears that viral invasions are considered lateral gene transference after looking into it- But it still seems to me that it’s a different process than bacteria sharing DNA info for the purpose of survival- HGT between species specific kinds for survival purposes is fairly rare and limited in scope, and usually confined to the same species kinds, while viral invasion is more common and can occur between dissimilar species kinds- and doesn’t actually ‘transfer info from one species to another’, but rather injects it’s info in a hostile takeover/invasion, and which doesn’t actually work with the host’s DNA to improve survival rates in hostile conditions, but rather causes the host system to react to the invading info and work out workarounds to the foreign dissimilar DNA information-
Still working on this-
It isnt lateral gene transfer, but that is the only way an evolutionist can attempt to explain it.
Software programmers, however, are quite familiare with code re-use by the same programmer between unrelated programs.
Genes are simply DNA subroutines of genetic code.
what do you mean it isn’t lateral transfer? m I on the right track in objecting to it being called an actual transfer rather than an invasion?
My mind is tired, and I’m not educated In this stuff- but I get this feeling there is an important distinction here- and I can’t quite put my finger on it-
I know evolutionists need for horizontal transfer to have occurred in all species in order for ‘common descent’ to work- and for thigns like ERV’s to be present in several species at the same marker sites- but the fact remains that there are genes unique only to certain species- something Evos try to explain away as ‘orphan cells’, and if everything basically descended from one species, then there would not be as many unique species specific cells/info as there are-
and from what little I know about the subject- many of the supposed HGT’s in species perform very species specific tasks essential to the life of the species, and likely aren’t HGT’s after all because that info would have had to have been present from the very beginning of the species kind in order for that species kind to survive- the species kind could not simply wait around until infected by some virus in order to get that information needed for survival from that outside source/HGT
We’re kidna getting offtack a bit as the article is about the sea bears, but it is kinda related- it would be interesting to see if the supposed HGT’s In the tardigrades are actually needed to sustain it’s life or not- and if so, then how could it evolve from a simpler design to a more complex design if it didn’t have all the needed HGT’s to sustain it’s life I nthe first place
The previous “HGT Champ” was the rotifer, having what scientists claim is 100’s of HGT acquired genes- Yet this claim is unsubstantiated and the evidence infact shows that they are acquired from other species because these genes are absolutely essential to the rotifer’s survival, and could not have been accumulated slowly over millions of years (or however long evos wish to assign to the process of HGT)
[[They recorded over 61,000 gene sequences that were expressed from rotifers grown in stressed and non-stressed conditions. Of these, they could only find sequence similarities between rotifers and other creatures for 28,922 sequences (less than half). The researchers tossed the unknown DNA sequences out of their analysis since the non-similar genes were novel, apparently specific to rotifer, and essentially difficult for evolution to explain.
Of the 28,922 sequences for which they could obtain a match in a public database of other creature’s DNA and protein sequences, a significant proportion (more than in any other creature sequenced) did not fit evolutionary expectations of common descent.]]
http://www.icr.org/article/are-rotifers-gene-stealers-or-uniquely (Intelligent Design site-)
So- to explain it away, they come up with HGT as an answer- but again, the problem is that many of the genes are fully established in the rotifer and absolutely essential to life
[[Does HGT really happen in solar sea slugs?
Researchers sequenced DNA from the solar-powered slug eggs. In doing so, the scientists extracted slug DNA before the tiny animals ever interacted with algae—and found no algal DNA sequences in the slug’s genome after all.1
This news must have come as a big disappointment to evolutionary biologists who have been writing about how evolution supposedly occurred by HGT in all kinds of animals and plants. But if it wasn’t HGT, then how do solar-powered sea slugs acquire DNA from algae?
Creation geneticist Jeff Tomkins recently reviewed a new and mysterious genetic process whereby certain animal, plant, and fungus genomes spin off loops of DNA from themselves.2 Researchers have even found these so-called “extrachromosomal circular DNAs,†or eccDNA, in human body cells.
For sea slugs to uptake algae-made eccDNA, their gut cells must have parts and protocols arranged just as precisely as those that uptake chloroplasts. Every single piece of the process must be in place or the lights won’t come on.
By demonstrating that HGT did not occur in sea slugs, this research robs secular theorists of a key evolutionary mechanism.]]
http://www.icr.org/article/solar-powered-sea-slug-illuminates
Thanks BenLurkin.
Not as disturbing has finding that one of your neighbors has it as his license plate...
I bet you want one for a pet.
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