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What are white holes?
phys.org ^ | October 9, 2015 | by Fraser Cain, Universe Today

Posted on 10/12/2015 8:35:22 AM PDT by Red Badger

White Hole. Credit: universe-review.ca

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Black holes are created when stars die catastrophically in a supernova. So what in the universe is a white hole?

It's imagination day, and we're going to talk about fantasy creatures. Like unicorns, but even rarer. Like leprechauns, but even more fantastical!

Today, we're going to talk about white holes. Before we talk about white holes, let's talk about black holes. And before we talk about Black Holes, what's is this thing you have with holes exactly?

Black holes are places in the universe where matter and energy are compacted so densely together that their escape velocity is greater than the speed of light. We've done at least a million videos on them, but if you still want more info, you can start here with our Black Hole playlist.

Fully describing a black hole requires a lot of fancy math, but these are real objects in our universe. They were predicted by Einstein's theory of relativity, and actually discovered over the last few decades.

Black holes are created when stars, much more massive than our Sun, die catastrophically in a supernova.

So then what's a white hole? White holes are created when astrophysicists mathematically explore the environment around black holes, but pretend there's no mass within the event horizon. What happens when you have a black hole singularity with no mass?

White holes are completely theoretical mathematical concepts. In fact, if you do black hole mathematics for a living, I'm told, ignoring the mass of the singularity makes your life so much easier.

They're not things that actually exist. It's not like astronomers detected an unusual outburst of radiation and then developed hypothetical white hole models to explain them.

As my good friend and sometimes Guide to Space contributor, Dr. Brian Koberlein says, "If you start with five cupcakes and start giving them away, you eventually run out. At that point you can't give away any more. In this case you can't count down past zero. Sure, you can hand out slips of paper with "I O U ONE cupcake." written on them, but it would be ridiculous to use the existence of negative numbers to claim that "negative cupcakes" exist and can be handed out to people."

Now if white holes did exist, which they probably don't, they would behave like reverse black holes – just like the math predicts. Instead of pulling material inward, a white hole would blast material out into space like some kind of white chocolate fountain. So generous, these white holes and their chocolate.

One of the other implications of white hole math, is that they only theoretically exist as long as there isn't a single speck of matter within the event horizon. As soon as single atom of hydrogen drifted into the region, the whole thing would collapse. Even if white holes were created back at the beginning of the universe, they would have collapsed long ago, since our universe is already filled with stray matter.

That said, there are a few physicists out there who think white holes might be more than theoretical. Hal Haggard and Carlo Rovelli of Aix-Marseille University in France are working to explain what happens within black holes using a branch of theoretical physics called loop quantum gravity.

In theory, a black hole singularity would compress down until the smallest possible size predicted by physics. Then it would rebound as a white hole. But because of the severe time dilation effect around a black hole, this event would take billions of years for even the lowest mass ones to finally get around to popping.

If there were microscopic black holes created after the Big Bang, they might get around to decaying and exploding as white holes any day now. Except, according to Stephen Hawking, they would have already evaporated.

Another interesting idea put forth by physicists, is that a white hole might explain the Big Bang, since this is another situation where a tremendous amount of matter and energy spontaneously appeared.

In all likelihood, white holes are just fancy math. And since fancy math rarely survives contact with reality, white holes are probably just imaginary.

Explore further: How much of the universe is black holes?

Source:: Universe Today


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: blackhole; darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; speedofdark; stringtheory; whitehole
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To: Olog-hai

LOL!............


21 posted on 10/12/2015 9:17:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Resolute Conservative

It will be.............soon......................


22 posted on 10/12/2015 9:19:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

A white hole is at the cervix of the ‘birth canal’ of the Big Bang?


23 posted on 10/12/2015 9:23:39 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

Indubitably....................


24 posted on 10/12/2015 9:26:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t know what a white hole is, but I know we have a half white hole in the White Mosque.


25 posted on 10/12/2015 9:29:21 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: equaviator

They are not part of conventional (atheist) big bang models, so far as I know.

However, many biblical creationists are advocates of White Hole cosmologies such as have been developed by Dr. D. Russell Humphreys and Dr. John Hartnett. According to their proposals the creation of the universe was done from an initial white hole as described in the article above.


26 posted on 10/12/2015 9:35:28 AM PDT by Another Post-American (Jesus died for your sins.)
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To: VTenigma

27 posted on 10/12/2015 9:35:55 AM PDT by petenmi
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To: Olog-hai

Or Kryten and the rest on Red Dwarf?

He has never seen one before, no one has.


28 posted on 10/12/2015 10:18:08 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Red Badger
Since gravity always attracts, never repels, I'd guess white holes are extremely rare.
Maybe if a black hole from another universe decides to empty its contents here.
Or a black hole going backwards in time.
If either of those are even possible. Big ifs.

29 posted on 10/12/2015 10:34:14 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: petenmi

White ho?


30 posted on 10/12/2015 10:37:01 AM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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To: Paul46360

Made my day!


31 posted on 10/12/2015 10:46:06 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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To: BitWielder1

Maybe a ‘White Hole’ is what a ‘Black Hole’ turns in to when it fills up......................


32 posted on 10/12/2015 10:47:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

White A-Holes: Biden, Sanders, Bush, Rubio,Graham...


33 posted on 10/12/2015 10:50:19 AM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: Red Badger
If there were microscopic black holes created after the Big Bang, they might get around to decaying and exploding as white holes any day now. Except, according to Stephen Hawking, they would have already evaporated. Another interesting idea put forth by physicists, is that a white hole might explain the Big Bang, since this is another situation where a tremendous amount of matter and energy spontaneously appeared. In all likelihood, white holes are just fancy math. And since fancy math rarely survives contact with reality, white holes are probably just imaginary.

Yikes, makes me want to eat that last cupcake...

34 posted on 10/12/2015 11:09:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: Red Badger

The outer limit of the expanding Universe is THE white hole.


35 posted on 10/12/2015 11:19:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: wally_bert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxWN8AhNER0


36 posted on 10/12/2015 11:19:44 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: GOPJ

When A Black Hole has eaten the Last Cupcake, it spontaneously turns into a White Hole..................


37 posted on 10/12/2015 11:53:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: petenmi

That’s a ‘White Ho’, not a ‘White Hole”...............


38 posted on 10/12/2015 11:54:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Another Post-American

From what I understand, a “white hole” shakes out of Einstein’s theory of general relativity. It could exist only at the beginning of the universe and would’ve created relativistic effects in the opposite direction from black holes. In other words, it would accelerate matter at far, far faster than the speed of light in all directions, until acted upon.


39 posted on 10/12/2015 11:57:30 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Red Badger

After Stephen Hawking said the earth might turn into another Venus from man made global warming I don’t listen to anything he says.


40 posted on 10/12/2015 5:59:47 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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