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The Massively Popular Facebook Post Of A Totally Fake Map And The Tribes Who Were Obliterated By It
Rabble Writer ^ | 8/18/15 | Caleb Howe

Posted on 08/19/2015 7:49:16 PM PDT by absentee

Education in America is bad and deficient. I hear that all the time. Unless you live in the woods or are a dead person come back to haunt my blog posts, you have also heard it time and again. Politically, both the left and the right make this claim, but obviously for different reasons.

On the right, the complaints are usually that no one teaches about the founding fathers or the greatness of America anymore, that teachers are too leftist and liberal and teach social justice, and of course, COMMON CORE!!!!!!!!

On the left, the complaint is that schools just aren’t progressive enough. Science isn’t sciencey enough, nobody talks about how evil America is, people still want to acknowledge that Civil War units had flags, and NOT ENOUGH COMMON CORE!!!!!!!

But one of the chief complaints from the left is that Americans teach a pollyana view of America that doesn’t account for her many awful and terrible atrocities against mankind and God and fine dining.

QUICK FACT: There is thing in smart talk called “confirmation bias,” and here is how it works: people develop a habit of interpreting things in a way that supports a conclusion that they’ve already drawn. A good example is the above two paragraphs about education.

Enter Facebook.

A post has gone viral on Facebook in the last few days that is a great example of these different views on education. Rather than describe the post to you, I will simply give you a screenshot of it. A picture is worth a thousand keyboard strokes.

(Excerpt) Read more at rabblewriter.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: facebook; history; indians; jeb; jebbush; map
Dumb people gonna dumb.
1 posted on 08/19/2015 7:49:16 PM PDT by absentee
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To: absentee
a dead person come back to haunt my blog posts

I always wondered who actually read that crap.

2 posted on 08/19/2015 7:52:29 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: absentee

Saginaw is a bastardization of the Ojibwe word for “where the Sauk were”. The Ojibwe indians named it that after they massacred and drove the Sauk from the land.


3 posted on 08/19/2015 7:56:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek

Damn that’s hard core.


4 posted on 08/19/2015 8:08:54 PM PDT by absentee
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To: absentee

That is the noble savages for ya.

If you really want to upset liberals tell em about those earth loving natives who never wasted anything and “head bashed in buffalo jump”.


5 posted on 08/19/2015 8:13:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: absentee

I saw this map a few days ago and with what I knew about the Comanche the area allocated to them was about 20% of the area they controlled. The Comanche warrior community pushed the Sioux to the North and the Apache to the West and were feared by the Kiowa and Eastern tribes that had contact with them. It wasn’t unheard to have a band of Comanches to travel sixty miles in one night to raid an area.


6 posted on 08/19/2015 8:17:26 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: absentee

I’m still waiting for my free trip from Walt Disney Junior for forwarding Bill Gates’ chocolate cookie recipe from Nieman Marcus. And if I don’t forward this to all my contacts my hard drive will explode.

People are stupid. I know several in my life who believe everything they get in an email forward.

I’ll get the best friends money can buy once that Nigerial prince deposits $30,000,000 in my bank.


7 posted on 08/19/2015 8:36:41 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: vetvetdoug
I saw this map a few days ago and with what I knew about the Comanche the area allocated to them was about 20% of the area they controlled. The Comanche warrior community pushed the Sioux to the North and the Apache to the West and were feared by the Kiowa and Eastern tribes that had contact with them. It wasn’t unheard to have a band of Comanches to travel sixty miles in one night to raid an area.

I saw it and immediately discounted it as genuine when I saw that California was separated into only two tribal areas. . . and ignored the Central Valley Yokuts completely. . . not to mention dozens of other California tribes. Then I noticed the Iniuts were in the North of Canada on BOTH sides of Hudson's Bay. . . Say what? How is that possible? I knew it was twaddle.

8 posted on 08/19/2015 8:44:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: vetvetdoug

That was my thought also. In the book “Empire of the Summer Moon” the Comanche tribal lands extended from south central Colorado, east into Kansas, SSW to the escarpment in West Texas and the Rio Grande River, west to the front range of the Rocky Mountains, then north along the front range back to Colorado. It encompassed the greatest amount of controlled land within the boundaries of the US at the time. They were aligned, somewhat, with the Kiowas, and feared by the Apache, the Sioux, the Cheyenne (Northern and Southern) and by the Spaniard.

They are alleged to have originated in the West Upper Plains, yet spoke their own language (ie: the Comanche language did not share root with any other Plains Indians)

The Mexican government thought that a buffer band of white settlers from the US would bleed out the Comanches aggressiveness, but the result was the republic of Texas and the birth of the Texas Rangers.

The Rangers had a tough time handling the Comanche until the arrival of the Colt revolver, which kind of equalized the small unit warfare. The buffalo rifle did the hard work subduing the tribe (see Second Battle of Adobe Walls).


9 posted on 08/19/2015 9:06:53 PM PDT by woofer
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To: Swordmaker

Yeah bang on about California. This map bears no relation to history, and even as speculative “alternative history” it’s questionable.

The Powhatan confederacy managed to conquer the territory of the Lenape, Mahican, Carolina Algonquian tribes and the Susquehannock? What?

The Iroquois overthrew the Susquehannock and reduced the Lenape to a tributary position so if anything the PA/NJ/southern NY area should be theirs.


10 posted on 08/20/2015 3:14:13 AM PDT by Claud
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Compare with this very accurate map based on Native languages. This one is based directly on the Smithsonian map produced for the scholarly "Handbook of North American Indians".

Note the swaths of white space in the Ohio Valley, coastal south, and northern Mexico. We just do not have solid evidence about who lived there and what language they spoke (Casquinampo? Guale?). The Ohio Valley was cleared of its original inhabitants prior to white settlement during the Iroquois wars of 1650-1675.


11 posted on 08/20/2015 3:25:07 AM PDT by Claud
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To: absentee

Originally posted here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/3eor5t/rough_draft_seeking_advice_on_map_for_a_story_im/

Title: “Rough Draft (seeking advice on map for a story i’m writing where Europe never discovered America)


12 posted on 08/20/2015 8:32:50 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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