Posted on 02/24/2015 11:08:07 AM PST by Red Badger
If you've read your share of sci-fi, and I know you have, you've read stories about another Earth-sized planet orbiting on the other side of the Solar System, blocked by the Sun. Could it really be there?
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Color illustration showing the scale of planets in our solar system, focusing on Jupiter and Saturn. Credit: NASA
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No. Nooooo. No. Just no.
This is a delightful staple in science fiction. There's a mysterious world that orbits the Sun exactly the same distance as Earth, but it's directly across the Solar System from us; always hidden by the Sun. Little do we realize they know we're here, and right now they're marshalling their attack fleet to invade our planet. We need to invade counter-Earth before they attack us and steal our water, eat all our cheese or kidnap our beloved Nigella Lawson and Alton Brown to rule as their culinary queen and king of Other-Earth.
Well, could this happen? Could there be another planet in a stable orbit, hiding behind the Sun? The answer, as you probably suspect, is NO. No. Nooooo. Just no.
Well, that's not completely true. If some powerful and mysterious flying spaghetti being magically created another planet and threw it into orbit, it would briefly be hidden from our view because of the Sun. But we don't exist in a Solar System with just the Sun and the Earth. There are those other planets orbiting the Sun as well. As the Earth orbits the Sun, it's subtly influenced by those other planets, speeding up or slowing down in its orbit.
So, while we're being pulled a little forwards in our orbit by Jupiter, that other planet would be on the opposite side of the Sun. And so, we'd speed up a little and catch sight of it around the Sun. Over the years, these various motions would escalate, and that other planet would be seen more and more in the sky as we catch up to it in orbit.
Eventually, our orbits would intersect, and there'd be an encounter. If we were lucky, the planets would miss each other, and be kicked into new, safer, more stable orbits around the Sun. And if we were unlucky, they'd collide with each other, forming a new super-sized Earth, killing everything on both planets, obviously.
What if there was originally two half-Earths and they collided and that's how we got current Earth! Or 4 quarter Earths, each with their own population? And then BAM. One big Earth. Or maybe 64 64th Earths all transforming and converging to form VOLTREARTH.
Now, I'm now going to make things worse, and feed your imagination a little with some actual science. There are a few places where objects can share a stable orbit. These locations are known as Lagrange points, regions where the gravity of two objects create a stable location for a third object. The best of these are known as the L4 and L5 Lagrangian points. L4 is about 60-degrees ahead of a planet in its orbit, and L5 is about 60-degrees behind a planet in its orbit.
A small enough body, relative to the planet, could hang out in a stable location for billions of years. Jupiter has a collection of Trojan asteroids at its L4 and L5 points of its orbit, always holding at a stable distance from the planet. Which means, if you had a massive enough gas giant, you could have a less massive terrestrial world in a stable orbit 60-degrees away from the planet.
Well, it was a pretty clever idea. Unfortunately, the forces of gravity conspire to make this hidden planet idea completely impossible. Most importantly, when someone tells you there's a hidden planet on the other side of the Sun, just remember these words:
No.
Nooooo.
No.
Explore further: Earth's orbit around the sun
Source: Universe Today
Diagram of the five Lagrange points associated with the sun-Earth system, showing DSCOVR orbiting the L-1 point. Image is not to scale. Credit: NASA/WMAP Science Team
Space Ping!.............................
Nope. The Muzzies say that the Sun rotates around the Earth.
Used to read the Gor books back in the dark ages..
Gor circles the sun just opposite us. Everyone knows that.
There is no way there could be another earth for the simple reason that the sun could not orbit BOTH earths. :-)
” If some powerful and mysterious flying spaghetti being magically created another planet and threw it into orbit, “
A not-so subtle attack on those who believe in a creator. The Spaghetti Monster is a recent creation of the atheists to mock believers.
Tarnsman of Gor.
Been a long time.
In the early (pre-broadcast) days of Star Trek, Vulcan was supposed to be on the other side of the Sun from Earth.
Its going to take a night landing on the sun to find out.
But I’ve heard there are Klingons behind Uranus...
You have to have an IQ below room temperature to think this might be a possibility.
>>Used to read the Gor books back in the dark ages..
Gor is considered to be the sci-fi version of Mein Kampf today, while “50 Shades” is mainstream fiction.
We’re in the dark ages now!
OK, is L3 stable or not?
Gor circles the sun just opposite us. Everyone knows that.
Ah yes, the Gor novels. Tarl Cabot and the counter-earth.
The author, John Norman, would go off on these endless digressions regarding human sexual roles, dominance and submission, etc., but, spaced in between all that schlock was a very engaging and vivid fantasy/sci-fi mythos.
I haven't ready any of the Gor stuff in over 20 years, probably, but I imagine that I've read all but the last few entries in the series. Certainly 20 books or so. They even made a cheesy movie or two about it.
I remember that schlock...
Planet Claire?
I always hoped for some better back-story on the Priest Kings...
Every encounter always left new questions.
Maybe it all came out eventually, I didn’t get to read them all.
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