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What Are The Ramifications of Carter Contacting The KGB For Help In Defeating Reagan?
Evidence Jimmy Carter Abandoned the Shah ^ | September 25, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 09/25/2013 1:19:33 PM PDT by lbryce

Source:Evidence Jimmy Carter Abandoned the Shah

A recent article has provided some provocative information regarding former President Jimmy Carter and the Shah. While I had heard or read short articles regarding what is revealed here, the new piece by Alan Peters was an eye opener, and explained so much that I had suspected.

I must admit, I used to be a Jimmy Carter supporter. I voted for him to be re-elected. I cringe when people always refer to the Hostage Rescue Attempt as "Ill Fated", "Catastrophic", "Jimmy Carter's Diaster", when Carter is to be commended for at least actually going through with the attempt, while someone like Bill Clinton allowed the US to be attacked numerous times, only to respond when Monica appeared on television.

I disagree with his timing, I wish he authorized the rescue earlier, but some accounts tell us that an individual escaped Iran with information as to the exact whereabouts of the Hostages only a week or two before the official date of the Rescue. Jimmy Carter did what he had to do, and so did the men.

The mission did not fail due to the actions of the men or Jimmy Carter, it failed because God did not want us to win that day. 8 Good men died trying to rescue our people in a bold, daring move that our country had no previous reason to prepare for, nor did they anticipate the incidents beforehand.

But, since I have grown up a little, and learned a few things regarding politics, I have learned that Jimmy Carter was one of the worst Presidents the United States ever had. Maybe THE worst. Carter's failure to order us into actual combat with Iran in 1979-1980 over the Hostage incident allowed the rise of radical Islam to begin. The snowball effect of that radical Islam was shown on September 11, 2001.

While I have personal feelings regarding whether we should have gone to war against Iran for the taking of our embassy back in 1979, I at least regarded the man as a decent man, a well meaning man.

Events in the last 10 years, however, and knowledge of events of the 1980's have shown Jimmy Carter to be a dishonorable man. In fact, if the accounts are correct, Jimmy Carter is a traitor.

It is reported that Jimmy Carer contacted the Soviet KGB in asking for help in defeating Ronald Reagan.

Jimmy Carter is the man Bill Clinton sent to North Korea to supposedly cause North Korea to give up their desire for nuclear weapons, only to have them re-start their program immediately after he left.

Jimmy Carter has also made disparaging comments about our present President, George Bush for Bush's efforts to stop terrorism.

Jimmy Carter must make such statements, because if the truth be told, the origin of terrorism worldwide was the fall of Iran, and that fall was hastened due to Jimmy Carter's direct actions and lack of action.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1980election; carter; desmondtutu; election1980; iran; jimmycarter; lebanon; ronaldreagan; russia
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With Iran having encircled Israel with weaponry as the existentialist threat at the most dire in its history, I've tried to imagine a scenario in which Iran's unlikely rise as war-monger, preeminent threat to world stability, number one terrorist nation might not have come about.

Iran is the single greatest source of turmoil and upheaval in the Middle East and it boggles the mind to think of the sort of character the Middle East might have evolved into had the Shah not have been abandoned by Jimmy Carter, a disaster of unmitigated proportions of which is still unraveling with exceeding alacrity towards the Shadow of Armageddon.

I was curious as to the particular circumstances of the day back when, wondering in 20/20 hindsight what might have otherwise arisen in having prevented history from taking the disastrous route it took down the path of worst case scenario with the catastrophic loss of Iran as indispensable ally of the West and the ascendancy of the Iranian Terror State

In researching the event, I came across a most startling revelation, one that would put everything that made Jimmy Carter the absolute disgrace, pariah he still is, pale in comparison to the one single alleged event, that is mind-boggling in its perfidy, treason, betrayal of America, and its people to wholly unprecedented degree.

Just to have this act of utter blasphemy by Carter out in the open, spoken about, publicized would serve its purpose of having Carter impugned as the narcissistic, immoral outcast he is, would be fulfilling enough.

Having gone through events of the time I came across a revelation that boggled my mind, of Carter, as it has been reported having made contact with he Soviet KGB in asking for help in defeating Ronald Reagan.

My question to the Freeper Community is, while there is no proof of any such circumstance wherein Carter made contact with the KGB in seeking their help to defeat Ronald Reagan, on merely the act itself, what are, would have been the political, legal, constitutional ramifications of just such an act, that for Carter doesn't seem to be out of the realm of plausibility for someone of his ilk?

1 posted on 09/25/2013 1:19:33 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Bout the same as Teddy Kennedy contacting them to help defeat Carter.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 1:21:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lbryce

Jimmy Carter is a lifelong Marxist traitor!


3 posted on 09/25/2013 1:22:45 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (I took an oath)
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To: cripplecreek
Senator Ted Kennedy Cooperated with the KGB, Soviet leaders to Undermine Reagan
4 posted on 09/25/2013 1:25:16 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: lbryce
"I must admit, I used to be a Jimmy Carter supporter. I voted for him to be re-elected."

Well obviously you are as big a moron as he is!

(And that's saying plenty!)

5 posted on 09/25/2013 1:39:27 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: lbryce

Elect a liberal, the world goes to hell in a hand basket.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 1:44:31 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: lbryce

The destabiliztion of Iran was funded almost wholly by the Soviets, through the KGB.

And don’t forget, Ted Kennedy also asked the Soviets for help defeating Reagan, as well.

A LOT of today’s Social and political problems, including our now National Socialist Democrat-run Government, and the shadow party infrastructure that put it in power, can be traced directly to Soviet money from the 60’s through the mid-80’s.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 1:45:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: lbryce

The hostage rescue mission failed PRECISELY because of the actions of Jimmy Carter.

He did not have the spine to be Commander in Chief and select the most elite group to perform the rescue. Every branch wanted to participate so they could get some of the glory - a true CiC would have told them all to shut up and sit down, that XXXXXX elite unit was going to do the job - that this was not about glory and acclaim, that it was about American lives PERIOD!

They planned with far to narrow margins for error - according to accounts I read at the time they should have had more, and more appropriately equipped helicopters. This type of planning is what one would expect from a mixed bag of egotistical generals/admirals trying to grab their glory.


8 posted on 09/25/2013 1:47:06 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: lbryce

Carter did a better job regarding the hostages than did Clinton - LOL - praise so faint it is hardly audible!


9 posted on 09/25/2013 1:49:20 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: lbryce
I must admit, I used to be a Jimmy Carter supporter. I voted for him to be re-elected. I cringe when people always refer to the Hostage Rescue Attempt as "Ill Fated", "Catastrophic", "Jimmy Carter's Diaster", when Carter is to be commended for at least actually going through with the attempt, while someone like Bill Clinton allowed the US to be attacked numerous times, only to respond when Monica appeared on television.

The reason that rescue attempt gets no respect is because it should never been necessary, except under the leadership of an impotent fool. The second it became clear that the Iranian government was behind the taking of hostages from an embassy, the Iranian government was at war with us. They should have been scared of their shadows if a real man was running the show. You don't rescue hostages in the dead of night, you tell the rogue government what you are going to do if they don't give them back and then you do it.

And the Iranians knew they were dealing with a pansy, which was why they gave the hostages back the second Ronald Reagan became commander in chief.

10 posted on 09/25/2013 1:49:34 PM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Savage Beast

While this guy seems to has atoned for his sins in convincing fashion that given the chance would not vote for PPP (Plains Peanut Prevaricator) again, there are those who would vote for Obama in perpetuity.


11 posted on 09/25/2013 1:58:12 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: GilesB
There's one story of absolute incredulity regarding the failed mission, as reported by a military official, that demonstrates the pusillanimous gutlessness shared by his doplleganger equivalent Obama, how during the meeting Carter suggested or requested to avoid killing any Iranians during the rescue.


12 posted on 09/25/2013 2:06:47 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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I hope Jimmy Carter burns in hell. Sitting next to the Kennedy’s (all of them).


13 posted on 09/25/2013 2:10:47 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Our Republic is dead. Revolution is all that's left. Kill the tyrants.)
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To: Fledermaus

I wholeheartedly share your sentiments but no such group is complete without the Abhorrent Abomination that is GayMuzzie, whom I revile without qualification, more than the Kennnedys, Carter combined.


14 posted on 09/25/2013 2:41:15 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: cripplecreek

Teddy did ask for Soviet help to defeat Reagan.


15 posted on 09/25/2013 2:45:11 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: GilesB
Every branch wanted to participate so they could get some of the glory - a true CiC would have told them all to shut up and sit down

It's worse than that, Carter himself was insisting it be a combined service operation. When the Navy helicopter pilots were washed out (the Delta commander wanting to courts marshal one of them for cowardice)Carter insisted with replacing them with Marine pilots, the helicopter pilots are what destroyed the mission at the gathering site and kept Delta from ever even getting started on their mission.

16 posted on 09/25/2013 3:03:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: Fledermaus

one Kennedy, many Kennedys. No apostrophe.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 4:39:13 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Army Air Corps

Kennedy went to the KGB in 1982. When later confronted, one of his staffers replied, “In the quest for world peace, one can’t be choosy about one’s allies.”

My wife & I went to Arlington last year. Kennedy’s grave is guarded 24/7. All the cemetery street signs point you either to the Tomb of the Unknowns or to the Kennedy grave complex.


18 posted on 09/25/2013 6:03:15 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: lbryce
Anybody who would vote for Jimmy Carter even once is prima facie a moron.
19 posted on 09/26/2013 8:12:56 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks lbryce.
I must admit, I used to be a Jimmy Carter supporter. I voted for him to be re-elected. I cringe when people always refer to the Hostage Rescue Attempt as "Ill Fated", "Catastrophic", "Jimmy Carter's Disaster", when Carter is to be commended for at least actually going through with the attempt, while someone like Bill Clinton allowed the US to be attacked numerous times, only to respond when Monica appeared on television... The mission did not fail due to the actions of the men or Jimmy Carter, it failed because God did not want us to win that day.
Written like a devout muzzie. Also, this dates from the period when GWB was POTUS.


20 posted on 10/05/2013 3:49:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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