Skip to comments.Attn: FReeper Shooters - Help me buy or build a tactical shotgun (Vanity)
Posted on 01/27/2013 7:05:07 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
I have been surfing the web looking at tactical shotguns. I really don't care for the term "tactical", but what I am looking for is certainly not a bird gun.
Here are my requirements:
1. Barrel Type: A breacher barrel. Does anyone have experience with a breacher choke tube? Do they work? How much to they extend the length of the gun?
2. Barrel Length: Shorter is better to me as maneuverability is important.
3. Stock/Overall gun length: What are the pro/cons of pistol grip, traditional stock and folding stock? I want something very sturdy, as a primary requirement is the ability to breach.
4. Action: Pump or Semi-Auto. I do not have much a preference as I own both types of shotguns. However, a semi-auto may have the ability to have detachable magazines like a Saiga. Or the possibility of a drum magazine for other semi-auto.
5. Detachable/Drum magazines: If the answer to #4 is semi-auto, is there an advantage to a detachable or drum magazine? How durable are they? Can you get them for 3-inch shot shells? Are they reliable?
6. Accessories: My general thoughts on this is pretty simple so far - maybe a mounted mag light of some sort and something for extra ammo. If there are any other ideas, let me know.
7. I may build/mod using an existing shotgun. This is a financial thing, in which I purchase today what may be banned parts in the future and later use to parts when I build on a completely legitimate/legal shotgun.
I recommend something in the Mossberg 500 line- you can dress them up to be tacticool with enough attachments that you cannot lift it, and at a fairly reasonable price. That being said, I like plain old wood- because if you have no ammo, you need a club.
There are no 3” drums out there. 2.75” only.
Mossberg 590A1 pump 9 round (2 3/4 shells), add a Vortex Defense rail system, EOTech M6X-000-A2 M6X-G LED light/laser system, and any other stuff! You can drop the stock for an even shorter CQB use.
MDARMS drums are tough as nails
Saiga 12.. I wish I had one.
enuf with the ‘tactical’ crap. every military wannabe uses this term including every police dept from east coast to west coast.
Start with this...
For about $50, you can later add a top folding stock to it if you wish. This will give you the versatility of a short shottie for breaches and Close Quarters Battle, but you can fold out the stock for situations with greater stand off..
I have the Mossberg 500 Rolling Thunder; I had the basic 500 without the breacher on the end, but I lost it in the divorce (yes, I know that's pretty redneck when your divorce settlement hinges on a shotgun and hogs, but it did).
I don't have any experience with the Saiga 12 etc, but I have heard that they sometimes have feeding issues; my ex-BIL did with his and this is a common theme I have heard.
And a Mossy can be had for about 1/2 what a Saiga can.....probably even less than 1/2 after the prices skyrocketed.
Another benefit is the recoil isn't overly noticeable with the 500 and 2 3/4" shells. My buddies and I skeet shoot with them and compete against each other. One of our coworker's ex-wife is about 95 lbs with a brick in her pocket and had no problem blasting clay birds with it.
I like plain old wood because if you ever do have to use the gun, it looks more like grampa's shotgun to a jury, and less like something that would cause Chuck Schumer to sh!t himself.
Saiga 12 or Vepr 12 - Either one will work.
Pretty slick. I just checked out a video from the 2012 SHOT show. It doesn't look like a breach gun though. I have AR's. I have semi-auto shot guns. I am looking for something a little more up close and personal ... like breaking down my daughters bedroom door after she and her boyfriend lock the door and having enough left over to put the boy down (just an example, he won't make it up the stairs).
It really is amazing how many here don't get that.
It's even warned against before you post, mercy.....
That is what I have noticed. The most difficult part of doing a build like this is not knowing what you don’t know, e.g., like there is a 3” drum out there and you haven’t found it yet.
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