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The Ph.D. Now Comes With Food Stamps (From Graduate School to Welfare)
The Chronicle of Higher Education ^ | 01/10/2013 | Stacey Patton

Posted on 01/10/2013 8:57:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
I just paid a plumber $320 for a couple hours work to unstop a kitchen drain. I bet there are thousands of stopped up drains, outlets that don't work, etc., and one doesn't need an advanced degree to get the work. But one does have to be willing to put some back and dirty hands into the job. Oh, the horror!

In today's economy there aren't many degree programs that I'd recommend to my kids. But I know that every home I drive by has or will have plumbing, heating, a/c, and electrical needs. And then there's that sure thing: the funeral business, although cremation has hit it pretty hard.

41 posted on 01/10/2013 9:59:02 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A PhD in “Medieval Studies” is not a ‘degree’ It is the result of a worthless education. She IS a welfare queen! Teaching a course in “Humanities” is just as worthless. Her plight is not worth discussing any further.


42 posted on 01/10/2013 10:00:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

When your PhD is in something that’s only useful for teachers (medieval history) your options are limited. A friend of mine’s mom used to teach architectural history, her first lecture of the semester always started with “if this is your major understand that the only job you can get with this degree is my job, and I’m not leaving”.


43 posted on 01/10/2013 10:02:59 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: latina4dubya
she could supplement her income with that degree by offering online courses to high school students...

That's a great idea - I think I'll try that

44 posted on 01/10/2013 10:04:31 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: pepperdog

Plumbing is a time honored profession. My brother in law is one. He plumbed my first house I built. Whenever I have a problem that involves HVAC or plumbing, he’s the first call as I am for any electronic or electrical problem (a little gunsmithing on the side for him too)......

He’s a retired master plumber that gave the business to his son. I aksed him what a good plumber had to know.

He said, “First, Sh!t flows down hill, and Second, Don’t bite your fingernails”......


45 posted on 01/10/2013 10:05:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

They could all get together and start a private college. Then charge less than the government owned college, do a better job than the government owned college and live quite well.


46 posted on 01/10/2013 10:08:04 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: SeekAndFind
the "systematic defunding of higher education."

Cry me a river.

During any 17-year period from 1958 to 2001, the average annual tuition inflation rate was between 6% and 9%, ranging from 1.2 times general inflation to 2.1 times general inflation. On average, tuition tends to increase about 8% per year. An 8% college inflation rate means that the cost of college doubles every nine years.

Year College Inflation General Inflation Rate Ratio
1958-1996 7.24% 4.49% 1.61
1977-1986 9.85% 6.72% 1.47
1987-1996 6.68% 3.67% 1.82
1958-2001 6.98% 4.30% 1.62
1979-2001 7.37% 3.96% 1.86
1992-2001 4.77% 2.37% 2.01
1985-2001 6.39% 3.18% 2.01
1958-2005 6.89% 4.15% 1.66
1989-2005 5.94% 2.99% 1.99

47 posted on 01/10/2013 10:20:56 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: TheRhinelander
> Ph.D. in medieval history

That’s all you need to know right there.

Indeed. Add this ...

"I'm grateful for government assistance. Without it, my family and I would certainly be homeless and destitute," he says. "But living on the dole is excruciatingly embarrassing and a constant reminder that I must have done something terribly wrong along the way to deserve this fate."

Uh, yeah. What you did that was terribly wrong is you majored in something completely useless.

48 posted on 01/10/2013 10:26:02 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Foodstamp President at work.


49 posted on 01/10/2013 10:33:32 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator

Correction. The Foodstamp President at Welfare.


50 posted on 01/10/2013 10:41:58 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: TheRhinelander
Ph.D. in medieval history That’s all you need to know right there.

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You're absolutely right. God knows that we as a society gain absolutely nothing by studying our own history beyond "In fourteen hundred and ninety-two Columbus sailed the ocean blue..." and "One if by land, two if by sea..."

Really, who needs to know more than that about the history of our culture and civilization...especially when there are careers to be had in pharmaceutical sales?

51 posted on 01/10/2013 10:48:47 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: NativeSon
That's a great idea - I think I'll try that

good foe you! check out Escondido Tutorials... there are several online teachers there who offer their classes through that vessel... you might even be able to audit a class to see how they do it...

52 posted on 01/10/2013 10:48:47 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

That lady with the PhD needs to move from where she lives.....there are plenty of positions at schools for those with PhDs in any subject.....the gal needs to stop trying to live like the Sedona crowd and get motivated....if you have a PhD and cannot get a full-time or tenure position at a Community College...something is wrong with you


53 posted on 01/10/2013 10:53:21 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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That lady with the PhD needs to move from where she lives.....there are plenty of positions at schools for those with PhDs in any subject.....the gal needs to stop trying to live like the Sedona crowd and get motivated....if you have a PhD and cannot get a full-time or tenure position at a Community College...something is wrong with you


54 posted on 01/10/2013 10:53:35 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
My take is a little bit different.

I am all for individuals with the brain power and perseverance needed to earn a PhD in any discipline going for it if that is where their interests lie. Learning for the sake of learning is not a bad thing at all (I know that this flies in the face of a segment of Freeperdom that glories in its lack of advanced education - I do not mean you).

That said, I am also completely behind the notion that they find a way to pay for themselves in this world.

I see only good coming from this described circumstance, if it means that those with the praise worthy accomplishment of having achieved an advanced degree also learn how to reach that level without being a burden.

55 posted on 01/10/2013 11:06:27 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Cicero

Please stop making sense.


56 posted on 01/10/2013 11:08:19 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: TheRhinelander

Luckily he wants to go for criminal justice. Plenty of future in that.....KMA, respectfully. Unless you have a rabbi, a good political friend or want to work security in a mall you are screwed. I have a Master’s in this field and have never been hired for my education but it paid off for me for me by balls, technical knowledge and the ability to change from law enforcement to employee safety. When I WAS a LEO, (back when it was Peace Officer duty, A rookie we had actually lost his pistol out of his holster. He is now the Lt. in the force. His granpa got him on the job.


57 posted on 01/10/2013 11:08:58 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There was a time when universities did not grant such questionable featherweight degrees as those in business administration or journalism, and graduates of liberal arts departments, such as, yes, history, would be sought by business and government not for clerical and office politics skills possessed nowadays by the MBAs and J-school grads, but for the depth of their knowledge and thinking. The dumbies have won!


58 posted on 01/10/2013 11:13:50 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"I find it horrifying that someone who stands in front of college classes and teaches is on welfare," she says.

I find it horrifying that one can reach a PhD level of education without learning that income earned is in direct proportion to value created.

The complainer simply cannot accept that all of her education has trained her to do nothing more than deliver a service that no one actually wants.

59 posted on 01/10/2013 11:18:50 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: SeekAndFind

You may remember a film titled “My Dinner with Andre” which consisted in its entirety of a conversation between two men. It was a fascinating conversation, a great film, though obviously not for everyone, just like Fellini films are not for everyone, and never try to be. I thought of it just now, asking myself who I would prefer to have an long dinner conversation with, an MBA, a journo, a politician, one of those radio shouters admired around these parts, or a Ph.D in medieval history.


60 posted on 01/10/2013 11:31:03 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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