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The Ph.D. Now Comes With Food Stamps (From Graduate School to Welfare)
The Chronicle of Higher Education ^ | 01/10/2013 | Stacey Patton

Posted on 01/10/2013 8:57:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: EQAndyBuzz
Mideival Times is hiring waitresses at 8 bucks an hour. Be nice, you will get good tips


Not so much extra on the tips, I think...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/agsuci/420215685/

61 posted on 01/10/2013 11:35:58 AM PST by az_gila
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To: SeekAndFind

Short summary. She’s a bigot and an elitist with an inflated sense of self-worth, who thinks most people on welfare are ignorant lazy people, and is afraid that she’ll be lumped in with “those people” when she in fact is “highly educated”.

And, she thinks her intelligence is not properly appreciated: “”I find it horrifying that someone who stands in front of college classes and teaches is on welfare,” she says”

At some point, a smart person would realize if the only job their degree qualifies them for is teaching other people how to get the same degree, that it isn’t really much of a career move.


62 posted on 01/10/2013 11:47:07 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind

My level of compassion for people who get degrees, especially graduate degrees, in a field for which no demand exists, is zero.

Medieval studies and film are important, but it doesn’t follow that they need to be part of academia. My film school was my vcr. Kubrick, Tarkovsky, Bergman, I studied all the greats without ever paying more than the cost of a tape or some library fees.

Getting a PhD in your hobby? I feel sorry for his kids.


63 posted on 01/10/2013 11:53:33 AM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’d love to teach a college course someday, in my spare time. A couple guys where I work do that for some extra cash, and because it is fun.

I also worked as a Haunt Monster at our local theme park, again because it was fun, because it didn’t pay much, but still, one month of weekends and I had a thousand dollars in my pocket. But my kids both did it, so it was a family activity. And it’s fun to scare people.

I also wrote a column for the local paper, but the only way to make living money that way is if you can syndicate, and get paid 100 times for the same column.


64 posted on 01/10/2013 11:58:43 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: wtc911

Makes sense to a degree, but I firmly believe that those who have spent 8-10-12 years in higher ed pursuing unmarketable degrees have completely had ALL of the common sense schooled out of them by then. They’ve existed in a bubble and can no more make it in the ‘wilds’ with us other working dopes, than they could if dropped into the middle of the REAL wilderness.

My sister, as an example. She has NEVER worked in her degree (Teaching - but THAT is a BLESSING) and burdened my Dad with her bills when she defaulted on her student loans and credit cards. Oh, and there was that little incident with her ‘trying’ to kill herself when Dad told her to finish the year when she wanted to change colleges. (She swallowed a few too many aspirin...had her tummy pumped, the poor princess.) *Rolleyes*

Guess which ticket she votes for? Two guesses and the first one doesn’t count, LOL!


65 posted on 01/10/2013 12:57:01 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: wtc911

Even people who turn their hobbies, like medieval history, into their professions have to make sure there is enough money in that hobby to feed their families. She obviously did not. There is nothing wrong with having a hobby, but she should have made certain her family was cared for first. Anything else was selfishness and irresponsibility on her part. There is no reason why we, the taxpayers, should have to take care of her children because she needs to pursue a hobby.


66 posted on 01/10/2013 1:08:05 PM PST by Waryone
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To: SeekAndFind

Having worked three jobs at once when I was much younger, I would disagree with this woman - both her life choices and her claim that she is not a welfare queen. I would accept welfare if I was physically unable to work in any setting that would support me at a subsistence level (I’ve paid very high taxes for many years and would see the welfare as a return of the money I paid in). Otherwise, I have no moral right to demand that others give up the money they have earned and hand that money over to me. This woman is taking from others instead of finding a job that is available even if it’s not in her first choice career of teaching medieval history to college students. She should work full time at Medieval Manner, if necessary, and live on what she earns.


67 posted on 01/10/2013 1:25:01 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: wtc911; Revolting cat!

:-)

And see #58.


68 posted on 01/10/2013 1:41:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Waryone
Anything else was selfishness and irresponsibility on her part.

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Really? Have you ever made a decision in life that didn't work out? Were you irresponsible and selfish?

69 posted on 01/10/2013 1:44:22 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: latina4dubya

Shh, why let her into our secrets? :)


70 posted on 01/10/2013 1:59:54 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: wtc911

History major here.

Here’s what I can do for you.

1. Archiving. I know how to file stuff, put it away, store it and most of all - retrieve things so that you always have what you need at your fingertips. Does it matter whether it’s books or a client list? No. That leads me to number 2.

2. Database management. Everything is on computers now. Does it help you to be able to print out a client list? To be able to sort + process it so that you can figure out where you need more coverage? Do you have enough clients or do you need more? Customers? What about your inventory services. I can do all that for you. Why - because in History, information and the ability to process information is key.

3. Research. You need something? You need proof that somebody said something somewhere along the line? You need something sourced? You need market data and research. I can do all that. Why? Because my history degree trains me how to actually conduct research and obtain reliable information from reliable sources.

4. Writing. I have strong writing skills. You need to communicate with someone on any topic under the sun? I can do that. You need a legal document, a press release, anything of that sort? I can do all that. I don’t need much time either. Give me the topic and I’ll give you 500 words same day.

5. Public speaking. Can I stand up and give a presentation before a crowd of people? Yes I can. How much prep do I need? Maybe a day or two. And no, I don’t need to read off my notes. You’re telling me that this isn’t a valuable skill?

You’re telling me, that as a business you can’t use these skills? What you’re paying for isn’t the subject, you’re paying for all the ancillary skills that come as part of the package.


71 posted on 01/10/2013 2:13:29 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I don’t know why you aimed that rant at me, I wrote in support of Liberal Arts type degrees. In fact, my major was Literature. I have never had a problem proving my value.


72 posted on 01/10/2013 2:25:32 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

I wanted to add to your statement. :)


73 posted on 01/10/2013 2:28:12 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: LifeComesFirst
Your VCR was your Film School and you studied Bergman? Cool. Let's talk about his use of allegory, religion, psychiatry, history, violence (random, national and justified) and light to portray Man's relationship with God, the inner workings of the mind and the futility of relationships (depending on which period of his career you want to talk about).

Then we can narrow the discussion to whether or not he succeeded in using film to accurately tell the story of one woman's psychotic break in Persona...or do you think the film really is about two women...Should be fun...you go first.

74 posted on 01/10/2013 2:35:13 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

That was my second guess...


75 posted on 01/10/2013 2:35:57 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Gaffer
Great advice from you b-i-l, thanks for the laugh.
76 posted on 01/10/2013 4:06:01 PM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Big market for someone with a Ph.D. in medieval history.

I'm sure a local cab company will give her a job.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


77 posted on 01/10/2013 4:11:14 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: wtc911

Actually I’m not super-familiar with Bergman. I’ve seen Sarabande, Fanny and Alexander (short version), and when I was a teenager I watched The Seventh Seal about ten times. I’ve yet to see Persona. I don’t get to watch movies much these days, or read, or play video games, otherwise I’d be catching up. But I’m way too busy with school.


78 posted on 01/10/2013 4:15:25 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: LifeComesFirst
If you are at all inclined then you should try to carve out a bit of time for Bergman (I know life can often be too full).

I don't think that every work should be seen but Persona for an intense psychiatric study using two women to show a psychotic split in one woman, Virgin Spring for a study in Christian good works that lead to tragedy, revenge, unspeakable heartbreak and God at work, Wild Strawberries for a look at the autumn of one's life and Through a Glass Darkly for a blend of psychiatry and lack of faith shown through incredibly naked faces are all worth a serious look.

You might also want to try Sawdust and Tinsel, Cries and Whispers and Scenes From a Marriage to see Bergman's deeply depressing attitude toward the dehumanizing and mutually demeaning nature of relationships but they are all very dark and while I revist the first group every five years or so I think that once is more than enough for these three.

79 posted on 01/10/2013 4:49:46 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Cicero
History departments offer survey courses in world history and US history--so a specialist in medieval history won't be teaching only medieval history (unless perhaps a well-known scholar at a major research university).

It's not the permanent faculty who don't want to give the temporary people a chance--it's the administration which decides when a department can hire a new tenure-track person, and administrators have discovered that it is cheaper to have temporary and part-time people doing a lot of the teaching.

80 posted on 01/12/2013 6:11:35 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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