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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 51 DECEMBER 21, 2012
Free Republic | Dec 21, 2012 | greeneyes

Posted on 12/21/2012 1:22:01 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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We are having a great sunny day, but it is a little cool at 39 degrees with a low of 21. So much better than the cold gloomy, windy, and rainy day we had yesterday.

Sorry to be so late posting; I had an appointment that lasted way longer than I thought it would. May I just brag that I am still eating tomatoes from the fall harvest?

Looks like the final salad of the season will be Christmas dinner. Then my lettuce will be gone, and probably the tomatoes too. The lettuce in the winter garden didn't germinate too well, and the later plantings aren't ready for picking as they are still just a little beyond seedling size.

Lemons and bell peppers are still growing indoors like gangbusters. Hope all is well with my fellow gardners. Have a great weekend, and great great great Christmas. God Bless.

1 posted on 12/21/2012 1:22:10 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the Garden List.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 1:28:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the Garden List.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 1:29:07 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the Garden List.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 1:30:10 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The last of the lettuce will be gone with dinner tonight. There are three trays and a couple buckets of tomatoes in the kitchen but they’re starting to look sad so need to finish freezing them this weekend. I’ve been putting ripe ones in the freezer every couple days and saving a few seeds. Had a tomato sandwich for lunch, yum. Need to quit procrastinating and string the hot peppers this weekend, too. Then there will be space to start new tomatoes and peppers next week.

Hope you all have a very Christmas!


5 posted on 12/21/2012 1:34:04 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: greeneyes

Envy all of you who can keep gardening this time of year.

We had 12 inches of snow Wednesday night and then 40 degrees today (typical for the northwest)

God bless you all and Merry Christmas!!


6 posted on 12/21/2012 1:40:16 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: greeneyes; All

The garden has been gone for quite a while around here and it is downright chilly and very windy today. This past weekend, we did receive a basket of homemade jelly/preserves: basil jelly, hot pepper jelly, chocolate mint jelly, apple butter and fig preserves. Oh boy! :-)


7 posted on 12/21/2012 1:45:43 PM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: greeneyes; All
Thanks for the post and ping greeneyes, and Merry Christmas to you!

I'm trying to choose broccoli seed from Stokes seeds for next spring. I'm in the NE. Anyone have any suggestions?

8 posted on 12/21/2012 1:46:43 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: bgill

Yeh I am ready to start some seeds too, except, I haven’t received my catalogs yet, and haven’t ordered some of the seeds I need yet.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 1:53:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Nothing new here, so just a weather report. Low last night 24, high today 62, currently sunny skies. Low tonight 33* sunny tomorrow.

Merry Christmas everybody.

10 posted on 12/21/2012 2:02:25 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: greeneyes

My spinach was put in in the fall. Surviving quite nicely and will be huge come April.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 2:08:05 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

Where we live our morning low was minus 7 F. We got our first seed catalog. Love vegetable gardening, one of our summer joys.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 2:11:56 PM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: greeneyes

I haven’t received any catatlogs, either. Maybe they aren’t sending them out anymore since they have online catalogs.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 2:14:02 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: redfreedom

Me too. I always plant spinach in the fall. It survives the winter and come Spring it rockets into growth. Early spinach rocks!


14 posted on 12/21/2012 2:16:40 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: illiac

We sometimes get deep snow, but not too often. We had weather below freezing here this week, but I cheat. I built raised beds with the back against a concrete retaining wall, facing southwest.

Then I put straw or milk jugs of water along the sides, cover all with a double layer of row cover, and add straw, and styrofoam as needed. The sun heats up the concrete and water, then releases it at night on sunny days.

Then the cool weather crops do pretty well, the peppers and lemons etc, I grow indoors in front of the patio window which faces south west.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 2:23:43 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Oh man, I would gain 20 pounds with bounty like that.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 2:24:31 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: fanfan

You are welcome. I am not a broccoli person, so I don’t know anything about that. I did read that it can help prevent and/or cure H Pylori which causes ulcers.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 2:27:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

We are going to open only one jar at a time ... maybe that will help? :-)


18 posted on 12/21/2012 2:29:24 PM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: rightly_dividing

I like the sounds of that 62 degrees! LOL.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 2:33:16 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TheRhinelander

I really like spinach and lettuce planted in the fall. Usually lasts till June around here, so I don’t have to fight with the rainy, muddy spring planting of the greens.LOL.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 2:35:08 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill

I hope not. My eyes don’t do on line that well. I like to look through the catalogs, and then order on line. Maybe I need to visit a few sites and request a catalog? It’s worth a try.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 2:36:43 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: redfreedom

Which seed catalog did you get?


22 posted on 12/21/2012 2:38:36 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Collards are coming along fine; look like small trees. Kale and lettuce doing ok. Pulled the last of the turnips.

Will plant broccoli, cabbage and cauliflower next week.

23 posted on 12/21/2012 2:49:12 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: greeneyes
I like the sound of those fresh tomatos at Christmas time.

After the first, I will start some tomato seeds. Having such a small garden, I am not going to start 300 seedlings this time, maybe 75, and cull to about 25 or 30 at planting time. I am procrastinating again on getting my soil sample done; I wanted to do that before now, but....

24 posted on 12/21/2012 2:54:24 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: greeneyes

Please add me to the list! Glad to see someone picking up the torch!


25 posted on 12/21/2012 3:02:16 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: rightly_dividing

LOL. Procrastination is one of my mortal shortcomings.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 3:13:23 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TEXOKIE; Ellendra

You have been added. I usually try to post sometime after Noon on Friday. Ellendra has the backup list. JDAB was posting for a while, but she had other fish to fry.

Here’s another for the list, Ellendra.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 3:16:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Going down to 6 degrees above tonight here. Heat lamp goes on in the chicken coop and I’m narrowing down the last of my seed list for ordering.

Anyone ever try Baker Creek’s “Paul Robeson” tomato? It sounds good: “sweet and smokey” but I’m struggling with a tomato named after a communist.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 3:26:29 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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SEED & STOCK SUPPLIERS (V=veggies; H=herbs; F=fruits; M=misc. plants)

Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds (Fantastic eye candy catalog but not the best value)
2278 Baker Creek Road V,F
Mansfield, MO 65701
417-924-8917
www.rareseeds.com

Bountiful Gardens (Founded by John Jevons - I think. Bio-intensive 18001 Shafer Ranch Road methods stressed along with seeds selected for this
Willits, CA 95490 growing strategy. Fine for other operations, too.)
www.bountifulgardens.org V,F,M

Burnt Ridge Nursery & Orchards (Unusual trees, shrubs and vines for edibles)
432 Burnt Ridge Road F,M
Onalaska, WA 98570
360-985-2873
www.burntridgenursery.com

Growers Supply (Market grower and greenhouse equipment)
1440 Field of Dreams Way
Dyersville, IA 52040
800-476-9715
www.GrowersSupply.com

Forestfarm (Extensive listings of shrubs, vines, grasses)
990 Tetherow Road F,M
Williams, OR 97544-9599
541-846-7269
www.forestfarm.com

Gourmet Seed - International (Garden seed from around the world - mainly
HC 12 Box 510 Europe. Imagine Italian tomatoes in your
Tatum, NM 88267-9700 spaghetti sauce…) V,F,H
www.gourmetseed.com

Horizon Herbs, LLC (Numerous medicinal herbs & New Age
PO Box 69 kookiness) H,M
Williams, OR 97544-0069
541-846-6704
www.horizonherbs.com

Irish Eyes Garden Seeds (Nice selection - most notably their potato stock)
5045 Robinson Canyon Road V,F,H
Ellensburg, WA 98926
509-933-7150
www.irisheyesgardenseeds.com

J.L. Hudson, Seedsman (Amazing rare seed catalog - ethnobotanical even)
PO Box 337 M,H, some V,F
La Honda, CA 94020
www.JLHudsonSeeds.net

Johnny’s Selected Seeds (Good selection of OP and F1 seed, supplies & info; 955 Benton Avenue they trial grow their seed and are highly reliable)
Winslow, Maine 04901-2601 V,F,H,M
1-877-564-6697
www.johnnyseeds.com

Jordan Seeds, Inc. (Local boys specializing in market growing
6400 Upper Afton Road operations. Bulk seed at good prices, irrigation
Woodbury, MN 55125 and ag cloth supplies.) V,F,H www.jordanseeds.com

Kitazawa Seed Co. (Specializing in Asian vegetable seeds)
P.O. Box 13220 V,F,H,M
Oakland, CA 94661-3220
510-595-1188
Seeds@kitazawaseed.com

Nichols Garden Nursery (Supplier of herbs and OP veggie seed)
1190 Old Salem Road NE H,V,M
Albany, OR 97321-4580
800-422-3985
www.nicholsgardennursery.com

Oesco, Inc. (A source for orchard and production scale
PO Box 540 equipment.)
Route 116
Conway, MA 01341
800-634-5557
www.oescoinc.com

Peaceful Valley Farm & Garden Supply (Organic everything - I do mean everything)
PO Box 2209 V,F,H,M
Grass Valley, CA 95945
888-784-1722
www.groworganic.com

Pinetree Garden Seeds (Good range of OP & F1 seed for cheap prices)
PO Box 300 V,F,H
New Gloucester, ME 04260
207-926-3400
www.superseeds.com

Potato Garden (The name says it all) V
12101 2135 Road
Austin, CO 81410
800-314-1955
www.potatogarden.com

Raintree Nursery (Very large selection of unusual nursery stock)
391 Butts Road F,H,M
Morton, WA 98356
360-496-6400
www.raintreenursery.com

Richters (Herbs - tons of seed, cuttings and preparations)
Goodwood, Ontario H,M
LOC 1A0
Canada
800-668-4372
www.richters.com

Sand Hill Preservation Center (Rare OP seeds and poultry)
1878 230th Street V,F,H
Calamus, IA 52729-9659
563-246-2299
www.sandhillpreservation.com

Seeds of Change (Politically correct supplier of OP seed - like a cross PO Box 152 between Karl Marx and Luther Burbank) V,F,H
Spicer, MN 56288-0152
1-888-762-7333
www.seedsofchange.com

Seed Savers Exchange (Grand-daddy of Heirloom seed - members can 3094 North Winn Road order over 13,000 OP varieties.) V,F,H,M
Decorah, Iowa 52101
563-382-5990
www.seedsavers.org

Southern Exposure Seed Exchange (Good source for a number of offbeat P.O.Box 460 varieties) V,H,F
Mineral, VA 23117
www.southernexposure.com

St. Lawrence Nurseries (Zone 3 grown fruit stock - useful in our climate)
325 State Hwy 345 F,M
Potsdam, NY 13676
www.sln.potsdam.ny.us

Territorial Seed Company (Good standard issue OP and F1 seed - another field
PO Box 158 trial seed house) V,F,H
Cottage Grove, OR 97424-0061
800-626-0866
www.territorialseed.com

Totally Tomatoes (Name says it all - OP and F1 seed; peppers, too)
334 West Stroud Street V,F
Randolph, WI 53956
800-345-5977
www.totallytomato.com

Vermont Bean Seed Company (Snap, shell and dry beans & other veggies)
334 West Stroud Street V,F
Randolph, WI 53956
800-349-1071
www.vermontbean.com


29 posted on 12/21/2012 3:33:50 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Oops. Sorry for the formatting glitches. Oh well, y’all can figure it out.

Merry Christmas, y’all!


30 posted on 12/21/2012 3:35:48 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: MissMagnolia

LOL. Well, 1 Jar at a time might help, but it wouldn’t last very long, so I don’t know. Course the real culprit would be the bread and butter than would go with a lot of it.LOL


31 posted on 12/21/2012 3:43:18 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Well, if you order the communist name, you could reserve it for everytime you get frustrated with today’s bunch of lefties. Then you could either make a salad and stab it or throw it at a picture of your least favorite politician. LOL


32 posted on 12/21/2012 3:47:56 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; All

Thanks for the list WCF that’s a great resource.

I’ll add another link for interest to WinterSown:

http://www.wintersown.org/

They offer some free seeds, along with an interesting winter garden technique for those who can’t or don’t want to start seeds indoors for some reason or another.

I usually order 10 packets of tomatoes for a $5.00 donation. They have over 150 varieties. I like to sample varieties that I haven’t tried before.

The seeds are open pollinated.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 3:58:30 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Collards is one veggie that I haven’t ever tried. Can you describe the taste?


34 posted on 12/21/2012 4:04:33 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
GOOD JOB WCF!!!
35 posted on 12/21/2012 4:21:47 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where th<I>ey begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
GOOD JOB WCF!!!
36 posted on 12/21/2012 4:22:06 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where th<I>ey begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: greeneyes

Did I ever tell you it has been known to rain... and rain... and rain... and rain in Benderville. I haven’t been in the “garden” for a week


37 posted on 12/21/2012 4:27:35 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where th<I>ey begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: bgill; greeneyes
Been getting a few catalogs over the last 2-3 weeks.

Some of our Walla-Walla sweets, thanks to the screwy weather this season, started to put out new tops just as the original tops started to die & drop over for pulling. Since we collect coffee grounds from both a local restaurant & a coffee kiosk, those onions have been heavily mulched in coffee grounds, now that the ground has frozen.

The 18 apricot seedlings are doing great, despite 2 (as of today) still being barely out of the ground, and the last one probably not going to emerge. These were taken on the 16th.



38 posted on 12/21/2012 4:36:55 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: greeneyes

Thanks!


39 posted on 12/21/2012 4:44:59 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Sweet!


40 posted on 12/21/2012 5:05:50 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I ordered seeds from victoryseeds.com (heirloom) on a weekend and got them in 4 days. Now to see if their seeds germinate as fast as their deliveries.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 5:09:57 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: tubebender

How awful for you! Are you going into withdrawal? The only thing that would make up for such weather for me would be a roaring fire in the fireplace, a good book, and a bunch of garden catalogs with a cup of hot chocolate or tea.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 5:17:34 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TheRhinelander

Where are you located, what climate zone?


43 posted on 12/21/2012 5:18:04 PM PST by cfrels
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thanks for the pics, they are better than words aren’t they?


44 posted on 12/21/2012 5:20:11 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I also like the idea of feeding it manure and tearing it out by the roots at the end of its usefulness.


45 posted on 12/21/2012 5:46:17 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: tubebender

Thank you. Too bad the formatting is bungled.


46 posted on 12/21/2012 5:51:41 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: cfrels

Massachusetts. I think I’m 4 or 5.


47 posted on 12/21/2012 5:51:52 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: bgill

Good luck. I’ll join y’all in 2-3 months in planting seeds indoors. Sigh - direct seeding for me is about five months away.


48 posted on 12/21/2012 5:54:08 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: WorkingClassFilth

LOL. So true. If only we could do that with a few selective politicians.LOL


49 posted on 12/21/2012 6:05:32 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Come on down to Texas and bring some fresh tomatos, and we will fix a mess of collards and cornbread, Southern style! This is ideal collard season, they really get tasty after some frost on their leaves.


50 posted on 12/21/2012 6:13:23 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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