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Gun Vanity Time!! In the market for an AR-10 platform...
Vanity | Nov. 14th, 2012 | DTogo

Posted on 11/14/2012 10:38:45 AM PST by DTogo

Supplementing a bolt action Ruger American Rifle in .308, looking to acquire an AR-10 for hunting, range time, etc. Researching manufacturers such as DPMS, Bushmaster, Armalite, but of course in CT there are unconstitutional limitations on models that can be sold.


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1 posted on 11/14/2012 10:38:50 AM PST by DTogo
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To: Free Vulcan; wtc911; Flintlock; newnhdad; marktwain; 2ndDivisionVet; Travis McGee; Chode; ...

Your input/suggestions (”Banglist” ping) welcome here.


2 posted on 11/14/2012 10:41:11 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

You might want to check out the Springfield M1A SOCOM. It has a flat top receiver with rails so you can mount a scout scope on it along with lots of other goodies. .308 cal. Very accurate right out of the box. Kinda pricey though.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 10:44:03 AM PST by technically right
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To: DTogo
http://www.dsarms.com/

Not an AR-10, but FN-FAL and other weapons that might trip your trigger.

4 posted on 11/14/2012 10:45:02 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: DTogo
I recommend the Doublestar CAR15 for $654 from http://budsgunshop.com.

It has a gas piston instead of a direct impingement system, which I personally prefer.

I'd give you the direct link, but I am behind a firewall.

5 posted on 11/14/2012 10:45:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: DTogo

Side question - Is anyone making a AR-06 lower? Specifically an AR lower that will handle the length of a 30-06? Ideally, I’d like an AR in .35 Whelen. I assume I can get a custom barrel for the upper. Not so sure about the lower. Can’t seem to find much on the web.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 10:46:58 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: DTogo

I have owned a DPMS in 7.62 NATO for about three years and it is the finest black gun that I own. It has very little recoil... just a bit more that the 5.56 and very little muzzle rise (maybe 2 inches). It will shoot quarter sized groups at 100 yards without special loads. It likes to run wet and has gobbled up every bit of ammo that I have fed to it. If you want a 7.62 NATO semi... this is the weapon that I recommend.

LLS


7 posted on 11/14/2012 10:52:15 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: technically right

Yeah, am thinking about the Springfield M1 as well, but like the “M-16” feel of the AR-10.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 10:58:25 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

You can’t go wrong with a Stag. I got one not too long ago at Jo-Jo’s Gun Works in Southington.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 11:00:05 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: CodeToad

Likely that the FN-FAL is not “compliant” in CT, but I’ll inquire. Thanks!


10 posted on 11/14/2012 11:01:48 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

Don’t kill the opposition. Wound them and let them suffer.

A dead man is just a dead man.

A wounded man required medics, transport via ambulance and medical staff.

_ Another thing..... Democrats hate and FEAR guns and once wounded are not going to fight. They will only try and get others to do the fighting for them.

The US military won’t stand for that for long. They will desert, retire and join together and support us.

The trouble is that VERY few people in this country have any spine left so none of this is relevant anyway.

Learn to live under a Dictatorship and shut the fuc* up.


11 posted on 11/14/2012 11:02:24 AM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Puppage

Is that Stag in .308 or 5.56? I’m looking for .308.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 11:05:53 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

The Armalite AR10 more stopping power than the feeble 5.56, thats what the AR stands for. Mine goes bang everytime I pull the trigger, have put many thousands of rounds through it.The AR platform was originally designed by Eugene Stoner for the 308 round.


13 posted on 11/14/2012 11:06:16 AM PST by ar10
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To: DTogo

The Armalite shoots really well, and with the new 25 round mags, it represents a significant defense asset.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 11:06:30 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LibLieSlayer; DTogo

Another vote for the DPMS LR-308 series. Whether you get the Scout Sniper trim or the shorty AP4 model... I’ve heard nothing but good things about them. Price, quality, and accuracy.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 11:08:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: DTogo

Also have the DPMS. Great fire arm. Powerful, accurate and reliable. Hearing good things about the kel tec bull pup.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 11:11:29 AM PST by gleneagle
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To: DTogo

I’m a Saiga guy...even in .308.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 11:12:11 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: DTogo
5.56.

I shoot lefty and it's great that brass doesn't fly in my face any more. It sucks in CT, though....The adjustable stocks are illegal. For my .308, I have a Saiga with a BIG bang. LOL

18 posted on 11/14/2012 11:13:18 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: DTogo
You came to the right place. Freepers ALWAYS have the best advice on weaponry. Take it to the bank.
19 posted on 11/14/2012 11:20:40 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: DTogo

I started as a G3/CETME guy... I’ll suggest a PTR91, cheaper, MUCH cheaper mags and about the same accuracy.

The new VEPRs are another option and now have steel 20 round mags available. They are not quite as accurate, but very reliable.

Disclosure, my favorite .308 is a Galil...


20 posted on 11/14/2012 11:23:34 AM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: Dead Corpse

I have the AP4 but I modified it to suit my needs.

LLS


21 posted on 11/14/2012 11:26:38 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: DTogo

DPMS Baby! Definitely on my shopping list.

Very dependable and can reach out and touch someone accurately.

Also a real nice long distance cordless drill...


22 posted on 11/14/2012 11:38:08 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DTogo

I have an AR (5.56) and an FN FAL (.308).

Frankly, I prefer the FAL for function over the AR system. Esepecially the left side charging handle, which is the proper location for a righty.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 11:40:51 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: technically right

I shoot the Springfield M1A and I love it.

I passed on the SOCOM because I was hearing all kinds of problems with accuracy beyond 100 yrds.

I think it is due to a 16” barrel.

I went with 18 and it’s fabulous....

Best part is if I run out of ammo it is easily converted to a bat for clubbing zombies .....


24 posted on 11/14/2012 11:42:49 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DTogo

Move out of CT first. Then buy the gun.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 11:45:54 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Vendome

No questions on this for me -—get a Noveske N6-—

I’d also throw in a geissele trigger and opt for a 14.5 inch barrel with a 1.5 inch flash suppressor (welded on).

Barrel sounds short, but Novezke makes such a good barrel that you be MOA at sick freaking distances still


26 posted on 11/14/2012 11:47:01 AM PST by rightofthefairway
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To: Vendome

A friend has the M1A SOCOM and it shoots pretty well out past 200 yards. Not as good as the regular model and I do believe it is because of the shorter barrel. The other thing is that the thing is LOUD and the muzzle blast is a sight to behold!

I have regular M1A with the synthetic stock. It has probably the best factory trigger that I have ever shot. The only thing I don’t care for is the standard scope mount puts the line of sight so high that you can’t get a good cheek weld with the standard stock configuration.


27 posted on 11/14/2012 11:54:04 AM PST by technically right
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28 posted on 11/14/2012 12:05:28 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: CodeToad

LOVE my FAL STG 58. It’s a straight-shooting work of art! Even with my tired ol’ eyes, I can keep in on the paper offhand at 100 yds.


29 posted on 11/14/2012 12:07:44 PM PST by pingman (Step right up and place yer' bets!)
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To: DTogo
I have an AR-10A4 from Armalite. It's sweet. Magazines are a little on the pricey side, but the factory frequently has sale packs.

Of course, if you want to do long range tack driving, get a barrel longer than 16", but just keep in mind that due to the larger cartridge, the action and barrel of an AR-10 is going to be quite perceptibly heavier than a similar length rifle or carbine in 5.56.

I know a lot of folks don't like direct impingement systems, but I've never had an issue with reliability or fouling, and I shoot a lot of old, cheap NATO spec Portugese surplus ammo.

30 posted on 11/14/2012 12:21:22 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: DTogo

Rock River Arms has a 308 line.


31 posted on 11/14/2012 12:26:48 PM PST by moovova
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To: Puppage
I shoot left, but never had a brass issue with the later AR models with brass deflector. I did pass on the DPMS slick side because of that though. My A3 upper DPMS with deflector is just fine ejecting well away from my face. No need for a lefty version.

My rifke started like with an adjustable stock, but I removed it for an Ace skeleton stock. Never cold get used to the movement of the 6 position thing. Learned to shoot with the M-14 with all that nice wood to snuggle up to.

32 posted on 11/14/2012 12:35:23 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Puppage
I shoot left, but never had a brass issue with the later AR models with brass deflector. I did pass on the DPMS slick side because of that though. My A3 upper DPMS with deflector is just fine ejecting well away from my face. No need for a lefty version.

My rifle started like with an adjustable stock, but I removed it for an Ace skeleton stock. Never cold get used to the movement of the 6 position thing. Learned to shoot with the M-14 with all that nice wood to snuggle up to.

33 posted on 11/14/2012 12:35:35 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: LibLieSlayer

Same here. Mine now wears a fixed stock, rifle length gas system and 18.5” chrome lined barrel from Fulton-Criterion.


34 posted on 11/14/2012 12:37:06 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
I shoot left, but never had a brass issue

Well, let me define issue...it never hit me in the face, but it does eject in front of you and is kind of distracting. The Stag 2TL I have makes that go away.

35 posted on 11/14/2012 12:44:53 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: doorgunner69

I also have a chrome lined barrel, different stock and optics.

LLS


36 posted on 11/14/2012 12:52:12 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I too have a DPMS AP4 .308, which is great fun to shoot.

The muzzle blast and noise out of the 16” barrel is a little intense, however.

I don’t know what advantages the SOCOM has over a 16” AR in .308 that justifies the SOCOM costing almost twice as much.


37 posted on 11/14/2012 1:01:46 PM PST by altsehastiin
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To: rightofthefairway

I leave in KahLeeFawnEeYuh. I can’t get a 14.5” barrel.

Freaking Kommunistas .....


38 posted on 11/14/2012 1:07:12 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: technically right

Yeah. It’s tough to scope it correctly but I love it without the scope.

I do want the super super sniper one that comes with a Bender & Schmitt scope.

Probably voting another M1 in same config first and a DPMS or FNL before I buy that.


39 posted on 11/14/2012 1:11:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jongaltsr

Should this AR-10 platform be applied in a self defense scenario, it would be preferable to terminate the opposition immediately. As for lacking a spine to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, you are addressing the wrong person.


40 posted on 11/14/2012 1:15:18 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Puppage
Guess after shooting lots of right handed semi autos like Micarbine, BAR, Mi Garand, M14, I just do not notice the brass unles it was to hit me.

That said, I have taken it upon myself to retrain decades of habit to learn shooting a rifle right handed. Did it with handguns, should work for long guns too. Multiple benefits for me, like being right eye dominant, might finally be able to use a bolt gun, etc.

41 posted on 11/14/2012 1:18:29 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Dead Corpse; gleneagle

Thanks for the DPMS endorsement. Now if my usual gun store here in CT can only get some in stock...


42 posted on 11/14/2012 1:21:05 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Ah yes, optics.

After early training and expertise with iron sights that scope users often refuse to believe, I have started using a scope. And embarassed myself. Now finding there is a bit to it, depending on the scope. Parallax seems my downfall now. Did not realize how small movement behind the scope could move POI. Iron sights do not allow that of course so self-correct.

Hate the idea of $$ for a parallax adjustable scope, but may have to.

43 posted on 11/14/2012 1:24:44 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: LucianOfSamasota

25 round mags in .308? Interesting!


44 posted on 11/14/2012 1:25:28 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: wtc911

Next time the Saiga’s come round (in stock) I’ll likely pick one of those up too.


45 posted on 11/14/2012 1:27:10 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Kirkwood
Move out of CT first. Then buy the gun.

That is being discussed, but we like our home, surroundings, and Conservative friends (yes, we exist here in CT).

46 posted on 11/14/2012 1:33:11 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo
Plenty of Saigas in all calibers around...I got mines here...

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=saiga

47 posted on 11/14/2012 1:47:19 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: DTogo

BFLR


48 posted on 11/14/2012 2:21:20 PM PST by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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To: DTogo

http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=AR10+25R+MAG+5P


49 posted on 11/14/2012 3:00:14 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: DTogo

POF makes a piston AR.308 with a billet receiver but they are not cheap... https://pof-usa.com/16.5-p308-black.html


50 posted on 11/14/2012 3:13:28 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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