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Grenade burns sleeping girl as SWAT team raids Billings home
Missoulian.com ^ | October 12, 2012 | Unknown

Posted on 10/12/2012 6:06:51 PM PDT by Altariel

A 12-year-old girl suffered burns to one side of her body when a flash grenade went off next to her as a police SWAT team raided a West End home Tuesday morning.

"She has first- and second-degree burns down the left side of her body and on her arms," said the girl's mother, Jackie Fasching. "She's got severe pain. Every time I think about it, it brings tears to my eyes."

Medical staff at the scene tended to the girl afterward and then her mother drove her to the hospital, where she was treated and released later that day.

A photo of the girl provided by Fasching to The Gazette shows red and black burns on her side.

Police Chief Rich St. John said the 6 a.m. raid at 2128 Custer Ave., was to execute a search warrant as part of an ongoing narcotics investigation by the City-County Special Investigations Unit.

The grenade is commonly called a "flash-bang" and is used to disorient people with a bright flash, a loud bang and a concussive blast. It went off on the floor where the girl was sleeping. She was in her sister's bedroom near the window the grenade came through, Fasching said.

A SWAT member attached it to a boomstick, a metal pole that detonates the grenade, and stuck it through the bedroom window. St. John said the grenade normally stays on the boomstick so it goes off in a controlled manner at a higher level.

However, the officer didn't realize that there was a delay on the grenade when he tried to detonate it. He dropped it to move onto a new device, St. John said. The grenade fell to the floor and went off near the girl.

"It was totally unforeseen, totally unplanned and extremely regrettable," St. John said. "We certainly did not want a juvenile, or anyone else for that matter, to get injured."

On Thursday, Fasching took her daughter back to the hospital to have her wounds treated.

She questioned why police would take such actions with children in the home and why it needed a SWAT team.

"A simple knock on the door and I would've let them in," she said. "They said their intel told them there was a meth lab at our house. If they would've checked, they would've known there's not."

She and her two daughters and her husband were home at the time of the raid. She said her husband, who suffers from congenital heart disease and liver failure, told officers he would open the front door as the raid began and was opening it as they knocked it down.

When the grenade went off in the room, it left a large bowl-shaped dent in the wall and "blew the nails out of the drywall," Fasching said.

St. John said investigators did plenty of homework on the residence before deciding to launch the raid but didn't know children were inside.

"The information that we had did not have any juveniles in the house and did not have any juveniles in the room," he said. "We generally do not introduce these disorienting devices when they're present."

The decision to use a SWAT team was based on a detailed checklist the department uses when serving warrants.

Investigators consider dozens of items such as residents' past criminal convictions, other criminal history, mental illness and previous interactions with law enforcement.

Each item is assigned a point value and if the total exceeds a certain threshold, SWAT is requested. Then a commander approves or rejects the request.

In Tuesday's raid, the points exceeded the threshold and investigators called in SWAT.

"Every bit of information and intelligence that we have comes together and we determine what kind of risk is there," St. John said. "The warrant was based on some hard evidence and everything we knew at the time."

But Fasching said the risk wasn't there and the entry created, for her and her daughters, a sense of fear they can't shake.

"I'm going to have to take them to counseling," she said. "They're never going to get over that."

A claims process has already been started with the city. St. John said it's not an overnight process, but it does determine if the Police Department needs to make restitution.

"If we're wrong or made a mistake, then we're going to take care of it," he said. "But if it determines we're not, then we'll go with that. When we do this, we want to ensure the safety of not only the officers, but the residents inside."

No arrests were made during the raid and no charges have been filed, although a police spokesman said afterward that some evidence was recovered during the search. St. John declined to release specifics of the drug case, citing the active investigation, but did say that "activity was significant enough where our drug unit requested a search warrant."

Fasching said she's considering legal action but, for now, is more concerned about her daughters.

"I would like to see whoever threw those grenades in my daughter's room be reprimanded," she said. "If anybody else did that it would be aggravated assault. I just want to see that the city is held accountable for what they did to my children."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2012; billings; corruption; cwii; donutwatch; govtabuse; montana; noknockraids; policestate; rapeofliberty; swat; swatabuse; swatassholes; tyranny; wod
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1 posted on 10/12/2012 6:07:00 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

And another casualty in a botched no-knock SWAT raid. We’re getting at least one of these stories a week nowadays, aren’t we?

I wonder what kind of shape that girl’s hearing is in. I can’t imagine that she didn’t have some kind of hearing damage.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 6:10:17 PM PDT by verum ago (Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: Altariel
"If we're wrong or made a mistake, then we're going to take care of it," he said.

You were wrong, and you made a mistake.
3 posted on 10/12/2012 6:11:26 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Altariel

Oh, and what do you think the odds are that any punishment is handed down for this?


4 posted on 10/12/2012 6:11:37 PM PDT by verum ago (Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: Altariel
St. John said investigators did plenty of homework on the residence before deciding to launch the raid but didn't know children were inside.
They did their homework? Really?

Then fire they're sorry a$$es because they are absolutely worthless.

5 posted on 10/12/2012 6:14:04 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Altariel

“It was totally unforeseen, totally unplanned and extremely regrettable,” St. John said. “We certainly did not want a juvenile, or anyone else for that matter, to get injured.”

If that were the case, you wouldn’t have detonated the grenade. Period. Your gross irresponsibility has wounded (hopefully not permanently) a 12 year old girl.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 6:15:00 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I’d have tinnitus for 50 years after that. Or deafness.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 6:16:03 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Altariel

Another sterling success in the famous “War on Drugs!” Call in a brass band! If this won’t teach those commoners they have no right to decide what to smoke, snort, inject, drink, sniff, or otherwise take, nothing ever will.

How’s Prohibition II coming along, America? Pretty well, I imagine, or every police and sheriff’s department in the country wouldn’t have an unquestionable rationale for cobbling together its very own SWAT team.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 6:16:34 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Altariel

The scene of the crime

The evidence (looks like a 3rd degree burn to me; any Freeper nurses, doctors, or EMTs available for comment?)

9 posted on 10/12/2012 6:17:07 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

they should all be fired.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 6:19:43 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Altariel

Life in the USSA police state.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 6:19:56 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Altariel

And this STUPID war on drugs claims more innocent victims.

I used to be a staunch advocate for the WOD, but now? No way, if the druggies want to burn out their brains, fine! Let them buy regulated stuff at a pharmacy, tax it and let it go.

It’s like Prohibition all over again. People and the Government NEVER read history and never
from it.

And then the other side of me says, that what is happening now was the desired goal all along. More control, more loss of basic freedoms and a populace that is cowed by the Gangs both uniformed and UN-uniformed.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 6:20:27 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Altariel

The war on drugs mentality and laws have erroded the rights of law abiding citizens.

The police can and do assume guilt based on the flimsiest of evidence, and act as if the suspects are convicted felons.

It is ridiculous.


13 posted on 10/12/2012 6:21:56 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Altariel
No arrests were made during the raid and no charges have been filed, although a police spokesman said afterward that some evidence was recovered during the search.

After reading that, anything I have to say is pointless.

14 posted on 10/12/2012 6:22:38 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Altariel

...However, the officer didn’t realize that there was a delay on the grenade when he tried to detonate it. He dropped it to move onto a new device, St. John said. The grenade fell to the floor and went off near the girl.....

the officer had no business using a lethal tool he was not acutely familiar with-criminal negligence.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 6:22:44 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Salamander; Joe 6-pack

When they aren’t shooting dogs, they are burning 12 year old girls with grenades and are claiming that such activity had “unforeseen” results.


16 posted on 10/12/2012 6:22:59 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

It looks like a partial thickness burn (blister-look near the inferior edge of the discoloration) and a dark soot smear. It is hard to tell if it is a hematoma or deep bruise.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 6:23:59 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: verum ago

And another casualty in a botched no-knock SWAT raid. We’re getting at least one of these stories a week nowadays, aren’t we

YES, SEEMS LIKE A TREND....Only thing missing is that a dog wasn’t shot.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 6:24:19 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: andyk

You were wrong, and you made a mistake.


Yeah..no kidding...how hard is it to place a couple of officers at the back door..a couple at the front...knock on the door and serve a warrant? No arrests were made and this guy is not sure if they made a mistake using a flash grenade and burning a young girl for pete’s sake!


19 posted on 10/12/2012 6:28:01 PM PDT by chasio649 (Stop looking for heroes.)
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To: Altariel

12 year old girl’s injuries:

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/ravallirepublic.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/c5/dc58f5bd-11cf-5dea-8e57-c55bddf10aef/507822ad5cc76.preview-620.jpg

Source:

Ravalli Republic

http://ravallirepublic.com/news/state-and-regional/article_5334cd83-2936-5efc-adba-c12224eda3c4.html?comment_form=true


20 posted on 10/12/2012 6:29:10 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Altariel

Wonder what percent of SWAT assaults actually capture a criminal or lead to an arrest.

Since no charges were filed, it is doubtful they have a case.

This is becoming a commonplace house of horrors. Citizens are being killed and for no reason other than some policemen (who show no evidence of being adult) want to play army.

Idiots.

90% of cities with SWAT teams have NO REASON to have them.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 6:39:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: DefeatCorruption

Agree, they didn’t shoot the little old lady’s dog in New Orleans after the hurricane but they did take her gun and put her and her dog in a dump truck! Kinda makes you proud doesn’t it! All I can say is have bigger toys than they do. Too bad it wasn’t the SSI swat team or the Department of Agriculture one. Geeze this is getting insane.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 6:40:26 PM PDT by Ab Alius Domitor ("In the end; the winner")
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To: Altariel



23 posted on 10/12/2012 6:42:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The drug warriors are responsible for this. They’re right here on Free Republic. They’re quiet on these threads, but they’re lurking and reading.

Victims of police brutality never forget.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 6:45:27 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Altariel
"It was totally unforeseen, totally unplanned and extremely regrettable," St. John said. "We certainly did not want a juvenile, or anyone else for that matter, to get injured."

Bullspit. If you didn't want it to happen you wouldn't have used weapons of war against a citizen. May karma come back and bite you on your azz.

25 posted on 10/12/2012 6:45:59 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Altariel
Just getting in a little practice before Ubama bin Biden give them the "go" signal to kill all the peasants.
26 posted on 10/12/2012 6:46:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Altariel

Hmmm, the reported purpose of the no-knock raid was because they expected a meth lab was in the house? So naturally they fired off explosives as part of their assault process. Imagine the burns sustained if there WAS a meth lab. Kaboom!


27 posted on 10/12/2012 6:49:19 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Why not eliminate the middle man and have whoever feeds Obama his lines debate Romney directly?")
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To: NonValueAdded

Indeed.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 6:51:19 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
"St. John said investigators did plenty of homework on the residence before deciding to launch the raid..."

They need to be held back a grade.

29 posted on 10/12/2012 7:01:48 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Altariel

Besides all the obvious issues you don’t “flashbang” a meth lab - or it will likely explode.


30 posted on 10/12/2012 7:04:55 PM PDT by reed13
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To: verum ago

Excuse me for askin, but wouldn’t a flash bang ignite the fumes present in an active meth lab?


31 posted on 10/12/2012 7:07:28 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: Altariel

How long does it take to fasten a flash-bang to the hand-cuffed police officer’s genitals and pull the pin? I am enraged that this could happen in America.


32 posted on 10/12/2012 7:10:45 PM PDT by righttackle44
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To: righttackle44

One of these days people are going to snap, and it will be open season.


33 posted on 10/12/2012 7:20:46 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

First target: Media.
Second: These types of people.
Third: Democrats/Union thugs.
Fourth: Islamics.

Target rich, baby.


34 posted on 10/12/2012 7:29:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Altariel
>"some evidence was recovered during the search.

Well I'm satisfied it was a justifiable use of force!

There's a drug head living at 1600 Penn Ave DC!

Get em boyz!


My bad, it's only for little peoples addresses! Let's go house to house, and get all the Jews and Christians too while we're at it!

35 posted on 10/12/2012 7:29:27 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: NonValueAdded

Seriously? Why wouldn’t they know that?


36 posted on 10/12/2012 7:31:54 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Lazamataz
I have rope, and a sadly bare lamp-post on the street in front of my house. ;)

/johnny

37 posted on 10/12/2012 7:32:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s just a matter of time.


38 posted on 10/12/2012 7:33:36 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Lazamataz

Dam! I need more ammo!!


39 posted on 10/12/2012 7:41:20 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: verum ago

Punishment? There is adequate punishment for a screw-up like this. You go to court, and demand fifty percent of their operations budget for the next ten years for the kid, and then you start to require a county judge to actually accompany teams out to a home. You start to put the judge into the seat that if a screw-up occurs....he goes to jail for a year or two. At that point, all of this SWAT-play stuff starts to end....no one will sign for a raid.


40 posted on 10/12/2012 7:42:44 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Lazamataz

they are/will be bringing on themselves acting like this. “just doing my job” ain’t going to save them.

this also goes for our glorified baggage thiefs and pat-down perverts.


41 posted on 10/12/2012 7:43:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Altariel

Toss a grenade into a cop shop or an officer’s residence and try the “It was totally unforeseen, totally unplanned and extremely regrettable,” defense.

Little tin gods.


42 posted on 10/12/2012 7:43:42 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Altariel

Did they shoot the family dog?


43 posted on 10/12/2012 7:44:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: rolling_stone

“The police are the only ones with the training and experience to carry grenades”


44 posted on 10/12/2012 7:49:38 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Altariel
"It was totally unforeseen, totally unplanned and extremely regrettable," St. John said. "We certainly did not want a juvenile, or anyone else for that matter, to get injured."

Bullshit.

45 posted on 10/12/2012 7:49:50 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Lazamataz

I got wild hawgs by the bucket full. ;)


46 posted on 10/12/2012 7:51:02 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: Altariel
a METH LAB, and these doughnut munching geniuses thought throwing an EXPLOSIVE DEVICE into it was a GREAT IDEA...

they ALL should goto jail for felony STOOOPIDITY!!!

47 posted on 10/12/2012 7:58:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Texas Fossil

oh come on.....they needed the practice afterall..../sarcasm/


48 posted on 10/12/2012 8:01:54 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Texas Songwriter

Thank you, I hope the kid recovers.

The salaries of the entire department should go to that family for the rest of the injured daughter’s life.

Perhaps when *their* pocketbooks are the ones hit, committing government sponsored terrorism will be less appealing.


49 posted on 10/12/2012 8:07:10 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Travis McGee

There is no god but the State?

“Submit to the State or die, Conservative infidel”?

Hmm.....

Odd how worship of false gods results in strangely similar behavior.


50 posted on 10/12/2012 8:11:10 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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