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Some women actually have men on the brain
LA Times ^ | September 27, 2012 | Melissa Healy

Posted on 09/27/2012 3:29:18 PM PDT by neverdem

For decades after a woman has carried a male child in her womb or shared her mother's womb with a brother, she carries a faint but unmistakable echo of that intimate bond: male fetal DNA that lodges itself in the far recesses of her brain.

That astonishing finding, published Wednesday in the journal Public Library of Science One (PLoS One), suggests that the act of having a child is no mere one-way transmission of genetic material and all that goes with it: There is an exchange of DNA that passes into the part of us that makes us who we are. That, in turn, may alter a woman's health prospects in ways her own DNA never intended.

In the study, researchers from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and the University of Washington examined, post-mortem, the brains of 59 women. In 63% of the brains, they found fetal DNA that could only have come from a male. While scattered throughout the brain, the genetic traces of this other individual were clustered heavily in the brain's hippocampus -- a region crucial to the consolidation of memories -- and in the parietal and temporal lobes of the brain's prefrontal cortex, areas that play roles in sensation, perception, sensory integration and language comprehension.

When a person takes on the DNA of another, as happens, for instance, in bone marrow transfusions, she is called a "chimera" -- in mythology, a beast that is the fusion of two or more creatures. The discovery that a person can carry the fetal DNA of another person has given rise to a variant: This is dubbed microchimerism.

This line of research, says rheumatologist J. Lee Nelson, coauthor of the study, "suggests we need a new paradigm of the biological self" and how it is formed...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: genetics; microchimerism

1 posted on 09/27/2012 3:29:19 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Hmmm... this explains penis envy.


2 posted on 09/27/2012 3:33:56 PM PDT by Kenton (Feed the Homeless to the Hungry...)
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To: neverdem

If the mother gets DNA from her son incorporated into her brain, that suggests that she gets a bit of her husband, too.


3 posted on 09/27/2012 3:35:40 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: neverdem

The Gatekeeper has a little something inside her . . .

4 posted on 09/27/2012 3:41:26 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: neverdem
Future research will need to determine how, say, carrying a male fetus may influence a mother's likelihood of developing Alzheimer's disease or auto-immune diseases such as multiple sclerosis.

Oh, crap, men! You just KNOW how this is going to turn out.

5 posted on 09/27/2012 3:42:12 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: neverdem

So the LA Times is now saying that unborn babies are human??


6 posted on 09/27/2012 3:44:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Apparently.


7 posted on 09/27/2012 3:46:39 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: GeronL
Not really ~ they didn't advance beyond the DNA level in the discussion.

But I'll say this, your crowd at the LA Times probably aren't human.

8 posted on 09/27/2012 3:59:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; null and void; ...
Check the quote from the intro of the PLOS article:

This naturally acquired microchimerism (Mc) may impart beneficial or adverse effects on human health. Fetal Mc, which describes the persistence of cells and/or DNA of fetal origin in the mother acquired during pregnancy, has been associated with several different autoimmune diseases as well as implicated in tissue repair and immunosurveillance [4]–[6].

Could progesterone be a key to the lock on the blood-brain barrier?

Term and preterm labor: decreased suppressive activity and changes in composition of the regulatory T-cell pool

Nature linked that FReebie.

FReepmail me if you want on or off my combined microbiology/immunology ping list.

9 posted on 09/27/2012 4:22:51 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I’m not Catholic but what are the implications for Jesus’ mother, Mary?


10 posted on 09/27/2012 4:56:12 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

I’ll go out on a limb and say, she’s good with it.


11 posted on 09/27/2012 4:59:42 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: neverdem

shouldn’t there be decades worth of medical studies that captured whether the subject bore one or more male children? Perhaps a study of studies could yield some interesting information.


12 posted on 09/27/2012 5:08:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Obama gives us the gift of downward mobility)
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To: NonValueAdded

My ex-wife had 3 sons with her first husband. She liked hunting, fishing, high-performance cars and sports. Oh, and Tom Clancy books.

Not bad for a girl from Colorado. :)


13 posted on 09/27/2012 5:19:19 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Not sure that screening for male children vs. female children would necessarily reveal anything. The article said they found fetal DNA that could have only come from a male - i.e. the XY chromosome. Finding a female child’s fetal DNA in the mother would be much harder, since it will look the same (XX chromosome) under a microscope. They’d have to sequence the mother’s and daughter’s DNA to compare. They just plucked the low-hanging fruit first. More likely that all children (male and female) donate DNA to the mother, which was unknown previously, and this can impact the mother’s health. Comparing women who have had vs. not had children, which has been done, reveals some statistical differences (occurrence of breast cancer for one, I think) in health prognosis, and this DNA chimerism may be part of the answer. Might also explain why both my wife and daughter seem to be getting more stubborn simultaneously...

But then again, I’m an engineer, so all of the above may just be a load of obama-spew...


14 posted on 09/27/2012 5:36:02 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot (Communism - a social experiment which, for ethical reasons, should not be performed on live humans)
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To: neverdem

>> male fetal DNA that lodges itself in the far recesses of her brain.

With luck, that bit of DNA will flip the chromosomal switch that prevents women from comprehending how to operate a toilet seat.


15 posted on 09/27/2012 6:32:18 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

This is of course *after* they’ve met me.

Thanks neverdem.


16 posted on 09/27/2012 7:34:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, I’ve noticed that.


17 posted on 09/28/2012 9:07:19 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: neverdem

very interesting.
...this would help explain a lot of things.
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for example, many women are much more protective of sons, than daughters.
( related to ideas of Oedipus complex also.)


18 posted on 09/28/2012 12:54:15 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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This line of research, says rheumatologist J. Lee Nelson, coauthor of the study, "suggests we need a new paradigm of the biological self" and how it is formed...

The entire purpose of the study - the philosophy of sexuality. Think homosexuals, transexuals, and all the other psychological issues. A new paradigm of the biological self?

19 posted on 09/29/2012 2:39:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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