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WELL JIM, ENJOY THE BED YOU HAVE MADE: Quix's latest Opus Installment
TrueBlueRINOs antifreeper site ^ | « on: Today at 11:38:49 AM » | Quix

Posted on 07/04/2012 1:16:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Wellllllll Jim, Enjoy The Bed You’ve Made . SUMMARY: . IN COMPLEX INTERPERSONAL SITUATIONS AND RELATIONSHIPS—WHO CAN KNOW WHAT IS “REALLY REAL?” APPEARANCES ARE WHAT IS REAL TO THE OBSERVER CONCERNED. So, in many respects, the REAL might be the opposite of the statements below. However, the statements ARE PERCEIVED TO BE—APPARENTLY REAL ENOUGH for evidently thousands of FREEPERS that only idiots would fail to give such assertions fitting prayerful pondering.

1. Your leadership and leadership culture are consistent with those of a fairly complex person—like many of us.

2. Your leadership and leadership team CAN be quite generous, forgiving, kind, patient, understanding, compassionate, stalwart, tough, durable, endearing, perceptive, sensitive, thoughtful, persistent, occasionally self-effacing, prefer peace and peacableness; . . .

3. Your leadership and leadership team CAN also be quite arrogant, mean-spirited, harsh, abusive, very foul-worded, hypocritical, mercenary, spiteful, !!!CONTROLLING!!!, narrow, rigid, brittle, prickly, vengeful, judgmental, erratic, flip-floppy, irrational, arbitrary, hypocritical, petty, shallow, prefer flailing about in bitter harsh ways . . .

4. Like all of us with such disadmirable traits, such junk MUST come from your early history and less than ideal fathering (or possibly mothering and/or both).

5. For whatever reasons you have failed to work such junk through very far or very thoroughly.

6. Which might be largely neither here nor there in the larger scheme of things—EXCEPT THAT—you HAVE BEEN GIVEN OF GOD an incredible honor, opportunity, calling, gift, mandate—which you have appeared to increasingly squander to alarming degrees on arrogance, greed, foul, petty, dishonorable ugliness and ineffectual chaotic nastiness, conflictedness, unnecessary contentiousness and the like.

7. As I’ve often said—it’s fine with me if FREEPERS make you rich every day. If a million FR users and lurkers wish to give you a dollar or 5 dollars a day or a month the rest of your life—GREAT. FR gives lots of usefulness, pleasure, relationships and community to many thousands of people daily day in and day out; year in and year out.

7.1 Given the importance of the financial aspect to so many people . . . here’s some comments I posted earlier:

7.2 There is FARRRR tooooo little transparency and candor in terms of finances generally and specifically.

7.3 There is FARRR TOOOOOOO much abuse of even long time users and big time donors. What kind of management brilliance does it take to run off for petty shallow reasons folks who donated $2,500 PER FREEPATHON . . . and folks who donated $500 PER FREEPATHON . . . folks who just left in disgust if not hurt and anger over the petty abuse they took (or their friends or people they respected took) for no good reason. There's evidently some sort of spiritual and psychodynamic sickness at the deep root of such nonsense. And it appears to be getting worse instead of better.

7.4 Begging for funds with various kinds of shallow manipulations and funky hogwash could just be harmless fun among friendly family . . . except that . . . those giving such funds faithfully for more than 10 years are NEVER REALLY SECURE in the RELATIONSHIP and not even in being able to enjoy the FR HOME THAT THEY PAID FOR AND HELPED BUILD from virtually the ground up.

7.5 At some point, the arrogant dogmatic !!!CONTROL!!! freaque domineering fist pounding that "IT'S HIS HOUSE!" "IT'S HIS LIVING ROOM!" is outrageous, hypocritical and just plain factual nonsense. It is FREEPERS who have built up the readership of FR. It is FREEPERS' creativity and writing skills and interesting personalities who have build up FR's once great attractiveness to a wider audience.

7.6 Who paid for the carpet? Who paid for the paint? Who paid for the furniture? Who paid for the pics on the wall? Who pays for the electricity? Who pays for the heat and air conditioning? Who pays the insurance? Who pays the other utilities? Who pays for the internet service? Who pays for the gardening? Who pays for the groceries? Who pays for the transportation? Who pays for the "coming soon servers" that never quite seem to arrive?

7.6.1 Just who is the guest of whom?

7.6.2 It appears that with readership down 16-20% over the last 6 months or so . . . an increasing number of people are flushing the 'guest' out of their lives.

7.7 Clearly, it's the FREEPER SHEEPLE who have been paying through the nose in the face of erratic, arbitrary, irrational abuse year in and year out--never knowing when the mean-streak is going to strike out and slap them hard or even ban them--sometimes in the foulest language any "Christian" was ever known to utter or write. And then their EXTENDED FAMILY that has become so dear and precious to them—sometimes their literal life-savers--will be suddenly flushed out of their lives with absolutely no recourse whatsoever.

7.8 It is ACTUALLY ABOUT AS REASONABLE to say that JR and family are the squatters in the FREEPERS' HOME. . . . you know . . . that old founding documents thing . . . OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE?

And even that wouldn’t be soooooo outrageous IF a REPRESENTATIVE sample (REPRESENTATIVE—AS IN “REPUBLIC”!!!) of the FREEPER COMMUNITY had a seat at the table to offer input and advice THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY THOUGHTFULLY AND FAIRLY CONSIDERED each quarter. But, NOPE, the fist pounding, insecure, arrogant !!!CONTROL!!! freak domineering junk always rules.

8. HOWEVER, the mean-spirited, arrogant, hypocritical etc. junk has APPEARED to poison your well from the beginning. There have been gross hypocrisies. Early on you were reportedly utterly convinced (with good reason, actually) that Bush was complicit in drug running through Arkansas etc. Yet, fairly early on, you became convinced or persuaded that any discussion of conspiracy stuff on FR had to be forbidden—and mocked as absurdly untrue.

9. You would pontificate at length about maintaining a CONSISTENT stance as a Republic on the unchanging values and foundation of the founding fathers and founding documents. You claimed therewith to be the Premier Conservative website etc. in support thereof. All this was repeatedly stated with great pontifical emotion and fanfare while your leadership and leadership team APPEARED TO BE an erratic, irregular grossly inconsistent, grossly petty, shallow, flip-floppy and often a pathetic chaotic, haphazard, directionless mess.

10. Some folks have documented that few of the political figures you have ended up supporting have won. I don’t know that THAT means a huge lot, given the globalists insuring that the whole SElection/voting mess is 98% farce, charade, futile. However, there’s been a great deal of emotion, energy, expense, time, angst UTTERLY AND TOTALLY WASTED on !!!DEMANDING!!! that loyal FREEPERS support person XYZ and NOT ABC under pain of banning. Only to wake-up the next morning and have to flip-flop with the FR leadership team—too often—seemingly 180 degrees. And to do that with a straight face as though it were rational, made sense and was of benefit to the Republic has been more than a little off the wall and mystifying to thousands of FREEPERS. I don't know where folks were supposed to check their brains and integrity as they complied with the FR Pied Piper in following that nonsense lock-step.

11. You have evidently repeatedly and reportedly from the early years--returned evil for good. That’s been true toward individuals and toward classes and groups of individuals. There’s no excuse for that. None. There’s dozens of ways to avoid that in any kind of disagreement. SOMETIMES it has APPEARED that you and/or your leadership team have gone out of your way to do that—SOMETIMES SEEMINGLY in the meanest, harshest ways handy. Scripture is quite clear about the consequences of that kind of sowing.

12. You can be glibly self-effacing and disarmingly dismissive of the quality of your own Christianity, your leadership, your understanding . . . a list of things in that paragraph that ON THE SURFACE sounded and appeared impressive. Sadly, shortly after, it appeared to be merely propaganda for the FREEPATHON. It became quickly unclear how much of an earnest, heart-felt confession it really was—largely because there was no follow-up fruit of such a confession. It soon rang hollow and a farce. The arrogance, harshness and arbitrary and erratic !!!CONTROL!!! freak stuff quickly returned.

13. You and your leadership team have pontificated, exclaimed and wailed about !!!LOYALTY!!! and !!!BETRAYAL!!! while demonstrating the most petty and absurdly based disloyalty and outrageous betrayal of anyone who was ever a part of FR. You have absolutely no room to talk or complain about either one of those issues. You have merely reaped A PORTION of what you have so chronically, persistently and often mean-spiritedly sown in such regards. And your reaping is far from finished on such scores.

14. You have rightly and honorably claimed Christian values as a hallmark of your personally held priorities as well as FR’s priorities. Sometimes you have followed through—such as with your very admirable and honorable tenacious insistence that prayer threads be allowed in the main NEWS forum. By the same token, you have frequently demonstrated a hideous tendency to lapse into harsh, abusive, foul-mouthed communications publicly and privately—which would make many a sailor blush. None of us is 100% free 100% of the time of 100% of all hypocrisy. However, the frequency and ruthlessness of such foul-mouthed and arbitrary harshness out of clearly a mean-streak is NOT AT ALL a fruit of Holy Spirit. AT some point, perceptive, thinking and discerning folks have to ask themselves: Where is the real JimRob and just how much of an authentic Christian is he? And what game is he REALLY playing for what goal(s)? And doe HE even know or have a clue who he is and what he's about?

15. Many of us have been prayerful and seriously concerned about your health problems for a long time. However, sadly, even there some of us are troubled. Given the relationship between the MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT, one has to wonder if your health would be significantly better if your spiritual health and persistent demonstrations of your spirituality were more consistent with the advertising. In short—mean-spiritedness produces a troublesome harvest in the body, in relationships, in the psyche and certainly in the spirit. At some point, all the prayers in the world will not force a STUBBORN, mean-spirited ARROGANT soul to be better, healthy. As Scripture notes:

1 Samuel 15:23

For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. . . .” I don’t know if the rest of that verse applies to you at present, or not. I know you’re on slippery ground on that score.

16. And IDOLATRY will NOT WORK for anyone—even the king of FR. It doesn’t matter if one nurses one’s own bitterness as idolatry; or if one idolizes one’s country; or one’s own press releases; or one’s FR baby or whatever. Idolatry is a deadly poison.

17. I’ve agonized for many months over how to write the compassionate but stern rebuke I felt pressed so strongly in my spirit to write. People either seem to suck-up to you in fierce psychophant fashion—or to trash you as a minion of satan. I see you more as a typical Attachment Disordered man hung up on some serious spiritual and psychodynamic flaws like most of us in our era. So what. However, to stubbornly cling to one’s arrogance, stubbornness, meanness . . . and to ALLOW, much less seem to exalt in spewing such all over the thousands of folks who give money for your support and the support of your baby . . . that is at best unwise and at worst a pretty hideous example of human excess.

18. I don’t know what God intends to do with you and/or FR. I know you are NOT indispensable. I know that FR will NOT significantly influence the corrupt farce of a November SElection process—if we get that far in any kind of functional shape as a Nation.

19. I know that you have been given a priceless gift and honor of ENORMOUS potential good for the Nation, millions of individuals and the Body of Christ. And you & your leadership team have appeared to squander horrendous chunks of that potential on pettiness, personal pique, arrogance, stubbornness, meanness, willful blindness and willful ignorance. I know that many thousands of people in and out of the Body of Christ who COULD HAVE BEEN FITTINGLY AND USEFULLY WARNED about the spiritual and practical hazards of satanic globalism as well as the fallen angel UFO stuff have not been warned because of y’all’s junk and the junk of the likes of JeanS and Dirtboy and their cadre of harpies. To the degree THAT is true, there will be embarrassing amounts of blood on such hands, come judgment day—unless confession and repentance are heart-felt effected before then—and even then, though it may cover such sins redemptively with Christ’s blood—it will not save thousands who would have otherwise been saved had such a sobering responsibility been carried more fittingly and Biblically earlier.

20. Yet again, as all of us every day—have a choice. You can continue as is most likely—as you have for decades. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. And, I am well aware that you have rarely to never demonstrated, to my awareness, the least bit of a constructive response to negative feedback. It’s more likely that such a msg will result in a hardened heart, more arrogance and more stubbornness. That will be however it will be, with the responsibility for individual choices resting with each individual on your leadership team as well as on your supporters.

21. I only know of one priceless brilliant Christian in the upper levels of FR respect, who could likely help pull FR out of such a mess. You know who that is. You probably know they would be highly unlikely to ever say anything—particularly unasked. And, even if asked, they would likely be very sparse with their words—and it would be easy for you to discount, dismiss and ignore their wisdom. They would not push it. Shoot, they likely even would help you circle the wagons unless God made it clear they needed to do otherwise for your spiritual and other health.

22. Time is running out. Your options are shrinking daily in a list of ways as they are for all of us--unless we abide in Christ. I don’t know if Fresno is at a high enough elevation to escape coming traumas for California. I don’t think it is. Besides, the Chinese are not likely to be kind to Californians when they arrive to take possession of so much that they now own. I don’t’ know if HumbleGunner’s place in Texas is far enough from the coast and from Mexico to be wise either. I just know, you and all on the planet need to do MUCH BETTER at getting your spiritual house and your practical house in order--faster.

22. The question was raised in the FREE QUIX thread you closed yesterday about whether I’d like to return to FR. (A) I don’t feel the freedom to do that without your confession, repentance and evidence that you are going to sincerely back such confession and repentance up with “fruit” as the Bible might put it. Confess and repent about what? Whatever of the above that God would confirm as having validity and truth in your life. I suspect hell would freeze over before you’d humble yourself sufficiently to confess and repent. BTW, it needs to be public because your junk was flung about so freely publicly. (B) I don’t feel the freedom to return unless my posting options would cease to be curtailed by mindless, ignorant boundaries. That would include about globalism AS WELL AS the fallen angel UFO topic. I miss the relationship connections but God is God and always will be God and makes even that OK. Besides, folks can find me on this TBL forum.

22.1 Yes, THIS TOO is done as I’d want done toward me IF I’d demonstrated the junk you and your leadership has demonstrated for 11+ years. I’d want someone to care enough to try and starkly but caringly get my attention about such horrors in my life and turf.

23. I do thank you for the years I had on FR of many fulfilling and meaningful exchanges with very interesting people of great diversity but a lot of shared values. May God richly reward you for the humble part I had in all that.

24. I do pray that you earnestly do what you can to, by God’s Grace, truly get your act together. Reaping what we have sown can be a troublesome challenge for all of us. Given your evident current bent, I’d much hate to see any further reaping what you have sown.

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; UFO's; Weird Stuff
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To: Linda Frances; Jim Robinson

They fear Obama, but when a belt-way insider “republican” had a chance to change things last week what did John Roberts do?

The GOP-E and the DEM-E are the same group. They go to the same cocktail parties, marry of their kids to one another, and think the same thoughts. I used to think that the first, at least, preferred a balanced checkbook, but I was entirely wrong about that.

That’s how they get their turn at power: they PRETEND to like a balanced checkbook.


301 posted on 07/04/2012 4:12:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: wolfcreek

Wolfcreek, I don’t know why you even try. I read at both places and rarely post at either although I’m starting to lean towards TBL more often as the election closes in. The same people who say it’s an anti-freeper site and that they are obsessed with FR are the one’s who are obsessed and spying on everyone at TBL.

The childishness on FR is sometimes difficult to take. Although I have been addicted to FR for years, the lockstep tattletales who go running to JR every time they think they can get someone zotted is tiresome. I admire JR and don’t have issues with him, he can not vote for Romney all he wants, he’s an adult, he has a right to vote or not vote as he sees fit - the thing is, so do we.

What originally got me looking elsewhere was the MormonISM hate, (yeah I put MormonISM as required).

If I get zotted, I would so miss the many clever remarks made by FReepers, there are some really intelligent and witty people here but it’s being overrun by tattletales who have no life other than following Jim lockstep. As one FReeper wrote (which I found very amusing), I want to keep being a FReeper so I’ll vote for whomever Jim says to vote for. LOL, I believe it was a joke...?


302 posted on 07/04/2012 4:13:16 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: humblegunner
According to those monkeyspankers you are a right royal naughty rascal.
But hey.. those pukes hate me too.. so how bright can they really be?

Hey humble...they claim you signed up over there and they "outed" you and ran you off with your tail between your legs, ROTFL!

303 posted on 07/04/2012 4:13:57 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: presently no screen name
I was reading Quix's opus over there, and the comments. Saw a lot of names I recognized.

You got mentioned, BTW.

304 posted on 07/04/2012 4:14:22 PM PDT by Copenhagen Smile (Ask me no questions, I"ll tell you no lies)
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To: greyfoxx39

It’s taking traffic from my Virgil Goode Threads.

Can you link to the alternatives to Obama you have posted about?


305 posted on 07/04/2012 4:14:31 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: Drango; rogue yam
Rogue Yam is the nastiest Mittbot on FR and I have said this to his face.

Are YOU willing to allow FReepers to vote their conscience? He isn't.

If you know him, tell him that blasting everyone who won't roll over for him on Mitt isn't making him any FRiends.

PS. Take a look at what he's said about JR on TBL.

306 posted on 07/04/2012 4:14:37 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: narses

Good riddance to bad rubbish.


307 posted on 07/04/2012 4:15:52 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: greyfoxx39

keywords for some alternative to Obama discussions are:

notmitt,alternatives2obama,alternatives2mitt,virgil,virgilgoode


308 posted on 07/04/2012 4:17:05 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: Principled; Jim Robinson

Well, I’ve certainly heard of Quix, read his many offbeat posts, saw our dear departed Judith Anne abused early on but later treated mostly warmly and respectfully by him, visited his blog once (VERY briefly), was even referred by him to Anger Management for counseling once LOL. He actually had a little more tolerance for opposing viewpoints on the UFO threads than on the religion threads! But I always wondered if Quix was actually a woman posting as a man.


309 posted on 07/04/2012 4:19:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wasn’t Quix that UFO cult leader guy? Railian or something like that? I guess there isn’t some comet out there for him to obsess about aliens or conspiracies or such.


310 posted on 07/04/2012 4:21:14 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Moorings
What's up with these anti-freepers? If you don't like this forum, just go away and find another hobby. Nobody is tying you down here, and we don't really care if we miss your pompous screed or opus. They sound like the departure is some kind of earth shattering event.

They're simply atttention whores.

311 posted on 07/04/2012 4:22:44 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ok .

The focus should be not on alternatives to Obama but opposition to those that run against Obama?

Do do you support an alternative candidate to Obama?

Have you ever supported a GOP nominee for President?


312 posted on 07/04/2012 4:23:46 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: NoLibZone

What does that have to do with your (failed) attempt to derail this thread?


313 posted on 07/04/2012 4:24:02 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: onyx

Hi Onyx! Good to see you back!


314 posted on 07/04/2012 4:24:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39
they claim you signed up over there and they "outed" you and ran you off with your tail between your legs

Well, it could happen. I'm fairly timid.

315 posted on 07/04/2012 4:24:34 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Yes because no one should be held to any standards whatsoever or accept a consequence for their actions. Just do your thing man...it’s ALL good....

That's a pretty bad case of pretzelitis you have there. I never suggested "no standards" or "no consequences" in what I wrote. Have fun playing with your straw man.

316 posted on 07/04/2012 4:24:43 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: onyx
Not to worry. After Jim, I’m the second most hated on that site. Early death wishes for me.

How could anyone be mean with you, Onyx?! You're as sweet as sunshine and twice as nice! :-)

317 posted on 07/04/2012 4:25:03 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: humblegunner

Do they offer good sandwiches?


318 posted on 07/04/2012 4:26:01 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: Jim Robinson

A 9/11 truther too? I remember the weird UFO stuff and that he seemed to mock Christians with his ramblings, almost to make them look foolish- like a parody.

Oh well, on the internet, everyone things they are the most important in the world.


319 posted on 07/04/2012 4:26:07 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Norm Lenhart

You’re probably right, but I have read differently - that the mods had the power to zot if needed. Don’t know....


320 posted on 07/04/2012 4:27:02 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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