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Any other fans out there of "Fabric of the Cosmos?"
Self | January 6, 2012 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 01/07/2012 4:45:46 AM PST by PJ-Comix

Are there any other fans of FABRIC OF THE COSMOS out there? I found it to be perhaps the most fascinating science show ever produced. The information in the show is nothing less than stunning and definitely changed my view of the universe. Some of the information is so stunning that it is hard to comprehend. But guess what? Even physicists have a hard time getting their minds around it.

And an oatmeal cookie to the first person who can post who the major backer of this series is.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: briangreene; physics; stringtheory; universe
I am really interested in reading comments from folks who saw this show and what they thought of it.
1 posted on 01/07/2012 4:45:53 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
The website

PBS Series FABRIC OF THE COSMOS

I saw one episode and thought it was well done.

2 posted on 01/07/2012 5:06:06 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: PJ-Comix

I’m a big fan of “The Universe” on the history channel so this is probably right up my alley.


3 posted on 01/07/2012 5:15:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek; PJ-Comix; SunkenCiv
As Mr. Spock says, “Fascinating...!”
4 posted on 01/07/2012 5:20:10 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Pontiac

GUESS who the major underwriter of the series is?


5 posted on 01/07/2012 5:23:38 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: Pontiac; All

http://www.history.com/shows/the-universe

Four full episodes, FYI;

http://www.history.com/shows/the-universe/videos/universe-god-and-the-universe#universe-god-and-the-universe

The Universe: God and the Universe (44:15)
Religion has been offering explanations for the universe’s origins throughout history. Has science finally come closer to proving the existence of God or showing that divine intervention didn’t necessarily play a role?


6 posted on 01/07/2012 5:26:52 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Pontiac

Thanx for the link. I think I am going to watch the whole series over again later. Some of the stuff I probably need to watch several times in order to wrap my mind around it. Hard to absorb it all in the first viewing.


7 posted on 01/07/2012 5:27:47 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...
This thread may be "of possible interest to the list.."
8 posted on 01/07/2012 5:34:52 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Charles Henrickson; bcsco; franksolich

It turns out that the DUmmies might actually be right about Alternate Universes. I wonder in how many of the Alternate Universes that Al Gore became president?


9 posted on 01/07/2012 5:35:05 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: PJ-Comix

You might like these too.

http://www.malcolmgin.com/blog/2008/10/07/caltech-the-mechanical-universe-series-on-google-video/

I haven’t seen Fabric of the Cosmos yet, but will now watch it because of your post. Thanks!


10 posted on 01/07/2012 5:48:54 AM PST by mreerm
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To: PJ-Comix; Charles Henrickson

The idea of alternate universes isn’t new. There was talk in the scientific community back when I was a kid. I don’t put a whole lot of stock in “man’s” understanding when it gets into the theoretical.


11 posted on 01/07/2012 5:51:13 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Las Vegas Dave

You act as if both(faith and science) can not coexist. They must! It’s Ono when one side denigrates the other, that there is a problem. Science is supposed to provide the facts, the end user is the one responsible for the placement of those facts in the larger scheme of things.


12 posted on 01/07/2012 5:54:11 AM PST by SengirV
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To: PJ-Comix

No idea


13 posted on 01/07/2012 5:54:21 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: PJ-Comix

The book of that title, by Brian Greene, is excellent.


14 posted on 01/07/2012 5:58:15 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: PJ-Comix

David H. Koch!


15 posted on 01/07/2012 6:04:06 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: SengirV
I copy and pasted the episode information, it is not necessarily my opinion.
16 posted on 01/07/2012 6:17:36 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Excellence

An oatmeal cookie is on the way. BTW, I laughed when I saw who the major underwriter of the series was. According to the DUmmies, the most EVIL person in the Cosmos.


17 posted on 01/07/2012 6:27:21 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

You act as if both(faith and science) can not coexist. They must! It’s Ono when one side denigrates the other, that there is a problem. Science is supposed to provide the facts, the end user is the one responsible for the placement of those facts in the larger scheme of being.


18 posted on 01/07/2012 6:28:16 AM PST by SengirV
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To: bcsco

I think the main reason (and I might be wrong) for the theory on the alternate universes is that if the force of gravity was just a small fraction greater or less than what it is then the universe couldn’t exist. Therefore our alternate universe won the crapshoot of many universes. What is truly astounding is if we were the only universe and very conveniently had EXACTLY the correct gravitational force that ensures the existence of this universe.


19 posted on 01/07/2012 6:31:19 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("Now I am become Death, destroyer of oysters" ---from the Buffetvad Gita)
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To: Cboldt

String theory is an attempt to tie everything together.


20 posted on 01/07/2012 6:42:56 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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21 posted on 01/07/2012 6:44:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Thank you for the ping LVD :)
Never heard of it.. but will try to find the series torrent to download ;)


22 posted on 01/07/2012 6:49:16 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: 17th Miss Regt
-- String theory is an attempt to tie everything together. --

;-)

23 posted on 01/07/2012 7:30:51 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: PJ-Comix
This movie is great. Watched on TV and ordered.
It is great on the universe and extremely educational.

http://www.bethlehemstar.net/

24 posted on 01/07/2012 7:56:49 AM PST by rose
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To: PJ-Comix; Charles Henrickson; mikrofon; Physicist

What if the Fabric of the Cosmos is Rayon?


25 posted on 01/07/2012 8:05:20 AM PST by martin_fierro (or Baryon?)
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To: Bikkuri

I enjoyed the Fabric series as I have the other Brian Greene PBS offerings and his books. His mission is to popularize leading edge concepts of physics such as string theory and inflation cosmology and make the abstract mathematics understandable to the general population. He freely admits that much of this material is very speculative and remains to be verified by experimentation within the scientific community. For me it reveals the vast gap between ultimate truth and the realm of apparent truth that we experience as sentient beings. The whole history of cosmological physics has been about logically demonstrating that our human-centric perception of the universe is a simulation created by the neural processes of our conscious minds. Through the logical arguments of Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Bohr, Hawkings, Wittgen, and now Maldacena humans have gone from being the center of the universe surrounded by the crystalline spheres of the heavens to deterministic quantum algorithms churning away on the surface of some distant 3-brane and projected as a hologram into a 3-dimensional reality. The problem with all such explanations of ultimate truth is that they can only be truly known by a tiny priesthood of scientists that can actually do the math. The vast majority of humans have never actually determined for themselves that the Earth is a sphere or that it orbits the Sun or that the speed of light is the same for all observers in unaccelerated motion, they just believe these “facts” based on faith in others that have done the math. It is much more satisfying and reassuring from the standpoint of our human experience to believe in omnipotent anthropomorphic deities managing the vast cosmos for our ultimate benefit. In the end we can only ever experience apparent reality at our human scale so we should optimize that as much as possible to minimize suffering and not worry too much whether Anti-de Sidder Space/Conformal Field Theory is the real explanation of everything. If such theories prove to have predictive value and improve our species chances of survival in the future then they are worthwhile otherwise they are just mathematical dirt roads. For the limited PBS audience that is fascinated by the quest for ultimate truth they are certainly entertaining as well.


26 posted on 01/07/2012 8:28:59 AM PST by Dave Wright
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To: martin_fierro; PJ-Comix; Charles Henrickson; Physicist

It could be polyaster....


27 posted on 01/07/2012 8:32:32 AM PST by mikrofon (Protons , Neutrons , Cottons)
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To: PJ-Comix; Slings and Arrows; SunkenCiv; mikrofon; Charles Henrickson; Physicist

28 posted on 01/07/2012 8:44:04 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PJ-Comix

It made my brain hurt, but I still liked it. Does the news coming out about that faster-than-light particle thingie rewrite the book, though?


29 posted on 01/07/2012 8:52:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: SengirV

I agree. Here’s a little quote from a review I did a few years ago of Ervin Laszlo’s book, Science and the Akashic Field:

I’m reminded of a great quote from Robert Jastrow’s “God and the Astronomers”:

“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries”.

Or, as Neem Karoli Baba said, “It is better to see God in everything than to try to figure it out”.


30 posted on 01/07/2012 9:30:22 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Here is link for watching episodes on computer.

http://video.pbs.org/program/nova/


31 posted on 01/07/2012 9:38:59 AM PST by rose
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To: onedoug

Ping


32 posted on 01/07/2012 9:49:33 AM PST by windcliff
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To: windcliff

¨In the beginning God....¨


33 posted on 01/07/2012 11:18:26 AM PST by onedoug
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To: leapfrog0202

34 posted on 01/07/2012 12:09:46 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: leapfrog0202

35 posted on 01/07/2012 12:10:13 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; martin_fierro; AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; ...

Thanks for the pings! I'll have to check for streaming video of it.


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36 posted on 01/07/2012 1:21:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: SunkenCiv
That's a fine program but I enjoyed the Wonders of the Universe franchise more. Brian Cox/BBC is currently shooting a new series due this year sometime. Meanwhile ya'll can watch all four--yes, that's what I said-- FOUR episodes at the link I provided.
37 posted on 01/07/2012 1:37:58 PM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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To: rose

Bump for bookmark


38 posted on 01/07/2012 11:54:20 PM PST by The SISU kid (I feel really homesick all the time & so do all the other aliens.....)
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To: PJ-Comix

Am I the only one who is kinda sick of Brian Greene?


39 posted on 01/08/2012 7:44:38 AM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Isn’t Nova at least partially funded by the Koch brothers?


40 posted on 01/08/2012 7:46:36 AM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: Dysart

Thanks Dysart!
Fabric of the Cosmos (YouTube results, mostly):
Google
Wonders of the Universe:
Google

41 posted on 01/09/2012 4:43:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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