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Should we make a change in immigration stance?
April 2, 2011 | HardRightHook

Posted on 04/04/2011 12:50:03 PM PDT by HardRightHook

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To: HardRightHook

Please. The pro-intruder side is the one playing politics and playing Russian Roulette with our culture.

You can let some MS-13 gang members into your house if you want but there is a legal way to come to America and that should be the ONLY way.

The rest of us have principles. We could care less about the party.


21 posted on 04/04/2011 1:44:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

How can he be a blogpimp if there is no link??

Just saying.


22 posted on 04/04/2011 1:47:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: HardRightHook

I don’t ACCEPT your ideas, EXCEPT for borders, languages and cultures, what signifies one country from another?


23 posted on 04/04/2011 2:03:26 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: HardRightHook
The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.977% (2010 estimate), principally due to immigration.

The latest data show 22.1 million immigrants holding jobs in the U.S. with an estimated 8 million being illegal aliens. By increasing the supply of labor between 1980 and 2000, immigration reduced the average annual earnings of native-born men by an estimated $1,700 or roughly 4 percent. Among natives without a high school education, who roughly correspond to the poorest tenth of the workforce, the estimated impact was even larger, reducing their wages by 7.4 percent. The reduction in earnings occurs regardless of whether the immigrants are legal or illegal, permanent or temporary. It is the presence of additional workers that reduces wages, not their legal status.

The Bureau of Labor statistics for March 2011 show a national unemployment rate of 8.8 percent, including 15.5 percent for blacks and 11.3 percent for Hispanics. 22 million Americans are seeking full-time employment. Despite the economic downturn, the U.S. continues to bring in 125,000 new, legal foreign workers a month. This includes new permanent residents (Green Cards) and long-term temporary visas and others who are authorized to take a job. This makes no sense.

Bureau of the Census: An Older and More Diverse Nation by Midcentury

•In 2050, the nation's population of children is expected to be 62 percent minority, up from 44 percent today. Thirty-nine percent are projected to be Hispanic (up from 22 percent in 2008), and 38 percent are projected to be single-race, non-Hispanic white (down from 56 percent in 2008).

•The percentage of the population in the "working ages" of 18 to 64 is projected to decline from 63 percent in 2008 to 57 percent in 2050.

•The working-age population is projected to become more than 50 percent minority in 2039 and be 55 percent minority in 2050 (up from 34 percent in 2008). Also in 2050, it is projected to be more than 30 percent Hispanic (up from 15 percent in 2008), 15 percent black (up from 13 percent in 2008) and 9.6 percent Asian (up from 5.3 percent in 2008

24 posted on 04/04/2011 2:25:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: radpolis
It looks like a La Raza fascist has infiltrated Free Republic.

One can tell by the ESL writing skills and liberal type of argumentation and mentality.

You are right. I went back and carefully read this post. It is clearly not written by a native speaker of English. many of the sentences appear to have first been composed in some other language and then laboriously translated into English.

Five years or more ago when I was on this site every day there were a number of posters who were fanatically opposed to closed borders or stringent anti-illegal immigration measures. One in particular who used the posting name of Zook appeared to be a Hong Kong Chinese who was positively gleeful about mass third world immigration into the US. Others were persons who had some sort of economic stake in being able to hire illegals off the books for construction or agricultural jobs. Others were simply America is not a place but a credo types who really felt that any assertion of attachment based on being settled here for a couple of centuries was racist sentiments. Al of those types have either left this board or grown silent on the illegal question. This poster appears to be some sort of mole or plant probably by La Raza or LULAC or the Dems to try and garner quotes to be twisted for political purposes. He should be watched carefully.

25 posted on 04/04/2011 2:58:28 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: cripplecreek
If you simply whip the window open wide, you turn people away. If you slowly inch it open a little at a time and give people time to adjust, you can inch it a little further. Basically its the incrementalism our political “betters” have used on us for years. Fortunately we're wising up and turning them out to pasture.

This is how we have come to allowing openly ‘gay’ servicemenbers to now attempts to integrate women into combat arms occupation specialties. The left constantly redefines our culture by making small sidesteps to the left. With the military it is done by redefining what a soldier and an officer are and what the role of the armed forces are. The goal is to redefine them so the armed forces become the Peace Corps with guns so they can be used as a tool to force social experimentation on what ever group is to be coerced. That is why military operational history and military leadership training oriented towards the lives of great military leaders of the past (Grant, Lee, Or Washington for instance) is systematically eliminated from training syllabuses and replaced with social science theories and discussions of information warfare and nation building. A generation or so ago virtually every field grade officer had in his library or was familiar with Grant's Memoires and Freemans ‘Lee’ and ‘Lee's Lieutenant's’ and Henderson's ‘Stonewall Jackson and the American Civil War’. Today these titles have become considered almost of antiquarian interest not ones that both teach unchanging lessons of battlefield leadership as well as psychologically attaching the current generation to the experiences of Americans in combat in the past. This is a form of Orwellian psychological cleansing and it is treated very seriously by the left though never of course directly expressed. The goal is to produce a class of careerist officers unknowledeable of the history of their service and the role of the armed forces. Men and woman who will eagerly support any sort of dubious use of the military as long as the political leadership endorses it even to being comfortable with using the armed forces against American citizens who will be stigmatized as’racist’ or ‘extremists’ or members of KKK like ‘hate groups’.

26 posted on 04/04/2011 3:18:19 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: HardRightHook; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; Allegra; ...
I am all for immigrating more Viking Kitties and Cow Bells!

We need more Cow Bells

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

27 posted on 04/04/2011 4:00:07 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: HardRightHook
Immigration is a necessary evil and one we can live with if we are sober and pragmatic about the process.

As long as you're immigrating out of here and into the ozone....

ZOT!!!!


28 posted on 04/04/2011 4:06:53 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: HardRightHook

I like pie.


29 posted on 04/04/2011 4:08:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HardRightHook

Welcome!

Bye!

IBTZ


30 posted on 04/04/2011 4:11:38 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: HardRightHook

Mr. Hook, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


31 posted on 04/04/2011 4:13:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HardRightHook

Under your scenario if we eliminate 20,000,000 x 45,000. This eliminates nearly a trillion dollars from the economy just in wages.

You too stoopid to be a Freeper.

You would not erase a thing. Those jobs are supplied by the free market, which it just so happens abhors a vacuum.

Those jobs would be filled by Americans. Hell they might have to advertise they are available but trust me, those jobs will be filled.

Additionally, they might even get paid a little more and have all the benefits and protections afforded citizens of the these here states and under the Fed system.

Nice try though.


32 posted on 04/04/2011 4:15:08 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: HardRightHook; Old Sarge; darkwing104; rabscuttle385; 50mm; Atom Smasher; 230FMJ; Aircop_2006; ...
1) You advocate a variant of the immigration theory I call 'The Locust Effect'. Strike one.

2) You're a noob pimping a vanity thread. Strike two.

3) Your thread pimping is hit-and-run. Strike three.

IBTZ.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

33 posted on 04/04/2011 4:15:13 PM PDT by Viking2002 (RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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To: HardRightHook
 

34 posted on 04/04/2011 4:20:57 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: HardRightHook; darkwing104
Is that you, Juan?

IBTZ!

35 posted on 04/04/2011 4:21:51 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

Hmmm...I don’t get to ping viking kitty threads all that often. This should be fun!


36 posted on 04/04/2011 4:23:32 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: darkwing104
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37 posted on 04/04/2011 4:25:04 PM PDT by KC_Lion (America is on the Brink of War with itself, and no one seems to notice or care.)
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To: HardRightHook

I bet your stance is wide, just like Senator Craig’s.


38 posted on 04/04/2011 4:25:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Viking2002

agree.

39 posted on 04/04/2011 4:27:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: HardRightHook

IBTZ


40 posted on 04/04/2011 4:38:49 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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