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November 3, 2010 | Me

Posted on 11/03/2010 6:01:31 AM PDT by C19fan

Thought I should start an open threat post-election. Some observations:

1: Christie O'Donnell was a disaster. Despite plenty of money she received less votes than the GOP candidate for the Delaware's sole Congressional seat. I knows it pains me to say this but Rove was right. Angel was another huge disappointment. She recevied less votes than the total GOP vote for the Congressional seats in NV. Lets stop running amateurs who provide plenty of material for the likes of SNL and John Stewart.

Related to (1). Strong conservative candidates with experience and good backgrounds did very well for example, Rubio, Paul, Johnson, Kaisch, Portman and Ayotte. None of those candidates had the baggage like O'Donnell and Angel.

3: The New Yorkifaction of Californis is complete. You could of run 2 cardboard cut outs as the GOP candidates and they would of received the same votes as Whitman and Fiornia. The only thing now is to open the popcorn and watch California really hit bottom. I thank God I now live in Old Virginia instead of CA or NY. At least, three Pelosi-Obama lackes went down.


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1 posted on 11/03/2010 6:01:35 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: All

When are they going to count the absentee ballots in Califonia?

With record numbers of voters using the absentee ballots the results are final until they are counted.


2 posted on 11/03/2010 6:04:31 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: C19fan

Rove and other GOP bigwigs should have kept their disdain for O’Donnell to themselves. There was no excuse for trashing her and withholding their support the way they did. And Castle was a disgrace.


3 posted on 11/03/2010 6:05:22 AM PDT by Genoa (Put the kettle on!)
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To: C19fan

Let California rot in their own fecal waste. They balanced their last budget with fiscal gimmicks and outright fraud. Meg Whitman was crazy enough to try to help fix the state, and the voters said no. So let them fix their own problems.


4 posted on 11/03/2010 6:05:43 AM PDT by pie_eater
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To: C19fan

In an HONEST election, Sharron Angle would have won!


5 posted on 11/03/2010 6:06:57 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: C19fan

I agree.

The GOP should have won the Nevada Senate seat. Even with someone like Sharron came close to ousting Old Harry.

Delaware: A nightmare.

But a net pickup of 61 seats in the House! And 6 in the Senate(perhaps more on the way)!

It was a great night overall!

The folks in California and New York should be ashamed. They voted for more of Obama like government. My God, they will now reap what they have sown.


6 posted on 11/03/2010 6:07:26 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: C19fan
Not to be all gloom and doom, but I think this is scary. Hickenlooper won, Coons won, Ried won, ASSachusetts went (D) across the board (as usual (sigh))...If this was a referendum on Obama, I guess people don't hate him as much as they fear conservatives.
7 posted on 11/03/2010 6:07:54 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: C19fan

In CA, the fruits and nuts reelected Boxer, kinda reelected Brown, turned down marijuana legalization and here’s the biggie; Prop 25 passed and will allow budgets to be passed with a simple majority vote (was 2/3rds). With our permanent dem legislature, every budget will now steamroll the pubbies and no one will be left to protect the citizens.


8 posted on 11/03/2010 6:07:56 AM PDT by umgud (Wear your Border Patrol hat to the polls)
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To: C19fan

You’d rather we had RINO’s?


9 posted on 11/03/2010 6:08:29 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Genoa

Ah but here’s how it works. Trash her, and then when she loses say, See?
Hopefully she will stick around. Lots of successful politicians don’t win early on. For somer reason lots of conservatives are so quick to call uncle. Girly Men. Glad we have some tough women in the party. Oh and I agree, what good is a Republican who votes like a Democrat?


10 posted on 11/03/2010 6:08:34 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: C19fan
Once again, MA shows itself to be hopeless. All the Democrats won, and of the 3 statewide ballot questions, the proposed state income tax reduction was rejected, and the proposal to scrap our ridiculous low-income housing law was rejected.

The only thing I got last night was a reduction in the sales tax on alcohol. Whoopty-Doo.

11 posted on 11/03/2010 6:09:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: C19fan

even though we won big, i still feel steamed about Nv, Wa, and Ak... cause you KNOW they are going the dims way...

COD i figured would probably go down...

But Reid, that really gets to me...

We did very well statewide with several races going our way...

In Ga here, pretty much a total statewide rout...

I just feel bummed about the senate loses...


12 posted on 11/03/2010 6:09:13 AM PDT by wyowolf ("we were the winners , cause we didn't know we could fail.")
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To: C19fan

Several of the Senate candidates ultimately were big disappointments. Absolutely.

But, just below the radar, and just below the smashing House victory, the state legislatures went deeply red. This will keep the Dems away from power for a long time:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/11/03/the-tsunami/

The state gains in 1994 were big...but they were much, much bigger this time. And we are in front of redistricting!

So, the Dems took a deep body shot last night, causing massive internal bleeding. It is true they didn’t take the spectacular upper cut to the jaw knocking them out of the ring (continuing the metaphor). But they got hurt, real real bad.


13 posted on 11/03/2010 6:09:19 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: C19fan
Maybe the GOP needs to run more candidates like this...

Californians elect the dead

14 posted on 11/03/2010 6:09:59 AM PDT by SuperSonic (2010 TEA-nami !!!)
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To: Genoa

Toomey in PA is a big win and a slap in the face of Rove, who failed to back him against The Sphincter. I wish more mention of that were made on Faux. I wish Rove weren’t even on Faux.


15 posted on 11/03/2010 6:10:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: C19fan
Once again, proof that the voters are idiots. Just (fortunately) the idiots favored our side a bit this time

Here in Frederick County, Maryland, we had three candidates named "Young." All related.

One, running for State Delegate, is a classic tax-and-spend more liberal with a long track record in local politics. His son, running for County Commissioner, a hard core Tea Partier who hosts a popular right-wing radio show, and his other son, a teacher who was running for the extremely unpopular local school board.

All three of them won. Seriously, I don't think the local voters even knew which Young they were electing, they just kept choosing Young....Young....Young...... even though the three stand for radically different values and principles.

This is what you get in a society which gets it's news from the Comedy Channel

16 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:06 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: C19fan

Karl, not again ...


17 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:22 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Things that have never happened before, happen every day ....)
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To: RexBeach

Your forgetting massholes. They need to be ashamed too. ESPECIALLY those in district 4 who voted for barney frank. Oh yes, barney effin frank won handily. I’m sickened and ashamed and I want to get out of here!


18 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:23 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: pie_eater

Right on. I almost didn’t care. They have made their bed. Heck, they are now not only letting dead people vote, they are electing them. I only hope the rest of the country is watching them and understands. That’s the main thing I’m not sure about. America? YOU TOO can be CA if you don’t take this seriously, stop getting your *news* from the likes of Stephen Colbert and John Stewart and take a little time out of your day to really inform yourself.


19 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:23 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: C19fan

Those are great points.

I just hope the winners of last night encourage us to have the courage of our convictions and not just accept candidates who check off all the right boxes, who “think like we do,” and think enough of ourselves to hold out for quality. Look at the conservatives who won last night—not a scary blowhard among them. Rubio is utterly inspiring. O’Donnell wouldn’t have been capable of that speech.

We have to knock off the mewling anti-intellectual stuff that leads us to support people mostly because MSNBC doesn’t like them. We have to have more vigorous primaries and not react to the left.

When we put out conservatives who don’t just talk the talk but have records and lives reflective of conservative values, we win. When we demean our own standards and support pathetic, unworthy candidates, we look childish.


20 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:26 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: C19fan
Aa lot of empty suits were defeated, but more tenacious war horses were left in place.

We got some good people in that appear to have some teeth and I expect them to start biting immediately.

The commies have 2 years to utilize the damaging factors that ARE already in place and they WILL activate some of them.

There are still no jobs and there are no plans to build refineries, steel mills, factories, etc.

We are still yet a service nation with no where to employ but in gummint ... THAT is our main problem.

You can't create jobs ... you CAN invent a new widget and employ people to sell, build and deliver them ... THAT is the American economy that needs to be returned.

Drill for oil/NG, refine gasoline, build factories here ... we CAN pay the better wages Americans deserve.

21 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:26 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: C19fan

Sure there may have been better candidates, but where were they? Castle was not worth it. We dont need any “republican” covering that much for Libturds. The guy voted for crap-n-trade and was very squishy on Obozocare.

is it true that COD got enough support from Independents to win but the Tokyo Rove Republicans did not come out and vote for her?


22 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:33 AM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: pie_eater

Kind of a mixed bag for me...Happy for Rubio in Fl, and hopefully Scott pulls it out. Feel kind of down with Reid winning, I thought he was a goner. Still hoping Miller and Rossi eke out wins.

Overall though a plus, we got the house big time and can now styme further moves to the left. Not having the senate makes any attempt to review already passed into law items hard to redo...they have two shots at it now, one by the up and down vote and the second through the back door of a conference committee.


23 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:38 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: C19fan

Every single week, Gov. Palin and C. ODonnell took on Obama and the corrupt DNC.
Meanwhile, Rove attacked the GOP-election-chosen candidate.

In the end, she won independents. Repubs were led away from her
by Rove and his employer.

She would have been Senator TODAY (not January 2011)
had not backstabber Rove attacked, and attacked, and flayed.

24 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: C19fan

http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/odonnell-carries-independents-but-not-enough-republicans-to-win-in-delaware/1158977021

Take a look at this video. It turns out O’Donnell carried independents, but not enough Republicans. I blame Rove and other establishment types for her loss, and I won’t forget.


25 posted on 11/03/2010 6:11:46 AM PDT by chickpundit
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To: C19fan

Don’t let vote-by-mail be enacted in your state. Dudley is ahead in Oregon, but we are assured by those in the know that Kitzhaber will pull it out, due to uncounted votes in Multnomah County.

Vote-by-mail allows, at minimum, easy access for the uninformed to vote. It should be opposed.


26 posted on 11/03/2010 6:12:14 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: RetroSexual

Maybe they just don’t like old people... :)


27 posted on 11/03/2010 6:12:19 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Some are saying the silver lining in the dems keeping the Senate is that Obama can’t run against That Evil Republican Congress.

I’m not sure how much silver is in that lining. What do you think?


28 posted on 11/03/2010 6:13:07 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: RexBeach

The Nevada Senate vote needs to be gone over with a fine toothed comb. Stinks to high heaven.


29 posted on 11/03/2010 6:13:46 AM PDT by wolfman
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To: C19fan

Rove is a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Rove was a major part of why the DE race was about only one candidate, who had to face down her opponent, her opponent’s party, the President, the Vice President, the NRSC, Rove, and all of Hollywood. Chris Coons just had to sit up pretty for Harry Reid.

Finally, I am sick and tired of the idea that “polished politicians” are better than real people. Polished politicians are the very folks who got us into this mess, people.


30 posted on 11/03/2010 6:13:50 AM PDT by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: Celtic Cross
Not to be all gloom and doom, but I think this is scary. Hickenlooper won, Coons won, Ried won, [Mass]achusetts went (D) across the board (as usual (sigh))...If this was a referendum on Obama, I guess people don't hate him as much as they fear conservatives.

Reid won because he managed to keep the election local, while Angle was foolish to keep out the press. Coons won because O'Donnell was a horrible candidate. Massachusetts is a liberal state--this is a shock?

How anyone can see the Congress flipping two years after we were told Obama was in for eight years and Obamacare was going to ensure win after win for the left is beyond me.

31 posted on 11/03/2010 6:14:22 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: C19fan

Repeated application of toilet bowl cleaner may be needed to remove material stuck in place. Barney Frank, Harry Reid


32 posted on 11/03/2010 6:14:43 AM PDT by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: MortMan
Finally, I am sick and tired of the idea that “polished politicians” are better than real people. Polished politicians are the very folks who got us into this mess, people.

HARRUMPH!!!! And if O'Donnell was as nutty as people say, so what? Just vote her out in two years.

33 posted on 11/03/2010 6:15:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: C19fan

re: Rove was right

Was he, or did he simply voice a self-fulfilling prophecy? His behavior was disgraceful and selfish. He’s one of those ‘small’ people in politics that are all fun and games as long as their side and their ideas are prevailing, but when they find themselves on the other side they become snipers who would rather see a loss than admit they might have been wrong.

It’s fine to support Castle in the primary, but once the voters have spoken he should have kept his opinions to himself. He’s just to small and selfish to do that.


34 posted on 11/03/2010 6:16:03 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: samtheman

Alas, I think that is probably true. Most Americans attention spans are not that long and they would dole out equal blame in 2012 to the GOP and the Dems if the GOP “ran Congress”.

A GOP victory in the Senate would probably have propelled Obama to re-election, I think.

But I think with enough GOP Senators to stop his agenda entirely, plus the House, he starts to look very, very lame.

I am hopeful that a good, capable, commonsense but committed conservative will take Obama down in 12. Not sure who that is, but I think it is a real possibility...with the right candidate!

(In 8 years or 12...that man is Rubio!!!)


35 posted on 11/03/2010 6:17:00 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: C19fan

I have to disagree, if the RNC had pulled it’s head out of it’s nether regions, and endorsed Christie O’Donnell, she would have won - easily.

But, for reasons that defy even a mentally retarded child - the RNC stubbonly refused to accept a person nominated and backed by the Tea Party. I honestly believe that a great many voters simply voted the RNC straight ticket, thinking (in error) that they were also voting for O’Donnel.

So, instead of adding a Tea Party conservative to the roster - the RNC decided to “Show us who is boss”.

To call this juvenile behavior, is to insult every hormonally unbalanced 13 yr old girl in the country. Why can’t we flush the fecal matter that fills the leadership of the RNC?


36 posted on 11/03/2010 6:17:04 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: samtheman

Alas, I think that is probably true. Most Americans attention spans are not that long and they would dole out equal blame in 2012 to the GOP and the Dems if the GOP “ran Congress”.

A GOP victory in the Senate would probably have propelled Obama to re-election, I think.

But I think with enough GOP Senators to stop his agenda entirely, plus the House, he starts to look very, very lame.

I am hopeful that a good, capable, commonsense but committed conservative will take Obama down in 12. Not sure who that is, but I think it is a real possibility...with the right candidate!

(In 8 years or 12...that man is Rubio!!!)


37 posted on 11/03/2010 6:17:04 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: C19fan

She got 2,000 less votes than the so called “normal” republican running statewide (only 1 congressional seat so entire state votes) after dealing with Rove’s attacks and relentless negative press.

173k-123k Odonell
173k-125k GOP (statewide)congressman


Given the choice between 46 senate seats
or
47 with Rino Castle supporting Obama,Snow,McCain,and Graham...

I’ll stick with the 46.


38 posted on 11/03/2010 6:17:30 AM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: C19fan
“None of those candidates had the baggage like O'Donnell and Angel.”

That's true. But, remember that “O” walked into the WH with the Rev. Wright ‘baggage’ and some other truly objectionable associations (which he has retained) and no one called him on it.

So I think the Republicans who fielded the losing candidates you mentioned may be forgiven their assumption that WE could promote flawed candidates AS WELL!!!

Guess it's such an institutionalized double standard that NO ONE even mentions it any more. “O’s” baggage should be front and center at ALL times!!!!!

39 posted on 11/03/2010 6:17:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("..discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you")
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To: wyowolf

Wish we could have taken out Barrow and Bishop in GA- then it would have been a rout. I was also disappointed in how badly Fenn Little did against John Lewis.


40 posted on 11/03/2010 6:18:19 AM PDT by Padams
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To: C19fan

It’s too bad O’Donnell had to run against the establishment GOP as well as the Democrats and the Media Attack Machine. Sharon Angle only underestimated the desperation of the Democrats, who knew the unions would be tracking down there members and forcing them to vote?

Just because the MSM doesn’t like them doesn’t make them bad candidates. “Baggage” is a stupid excuse, who has more baggage than Harry Reid?

Speaking of bad candidates, “We need fewer jobs and more welfare” Brown wins the Governorship of CA? California GOP was saddled with BAD candidates like iCarly and the nutMeg.

Sadly (or not), I think Jerry Browns wish will come true for CA.

....

I think the big story might be the GOP gains in the state legislatures in states like Maine and Wisconsin. In TX the GOP now holds 99 of 150 state House seats, that’s HUGE.

It looks close to my prediction of 60+ House and 7+ Senate

Does anyone know if the Alaska senate race will have a runoff election?


41 posted on 11/03/2010 6:18:33 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: C19fan

Gotta give us some credit in Michigan Not only did we pick up a few seats for the US house, we ran the table in spectacular fashion in our state government. We took everything from the Governor down to county commissioners.


42 posted on 11/03/2010 6:18:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ConservativeDude
Dude...word.

Great analogy. Serious long-term damage was inflicted. But, and here is the caveat, a good cut-man and corner crew can get them back in the game. Gotta keep the hands up and keep the attack coming. Circle to their weak side...keep pounding. In politics Rope-A-Dope looks like weakness and it will make the electorate nervous and un-supportive. Gotta keep the action going.

Politics...Not exactly a "Sweet Science."


OK...I'll stop now. I hear the bell.
43 posted on 11/03/2010 6:18:46 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: C19fan

The Angle one is unusual in that every other seat, the Republicans won, usually by a good margin. Usually those patterns resonate across the state- unless they either really don’t like Angle or really like Reid, something still smells funny there.


44 posted on 11/03/2010 6:18:46 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Hodar

The RNC will NEVER get another dime from me.


45 posted on 11/03/2010 6:18:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: ConservativeDude

I agree completely. Both houses in blue Minnesota went to the GOP. That hasn’t happened in a generation!

Now we’ll see if the ‘rats can cheat enough to take the Governorship...At least if Dayton steals it, his hands will be tied.


46 posted on 11/03/2010 6:19:03 AM PDT by mplsconservative (I stand with Israel.)
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To: Genoa

Didn’t the GOP Chairman of Delaware say he and the party would not support her if she won the primary?

Now that is what I call baggage.


47 posted on 11/03/2010 6:19:42 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: C19fan
With one in seven getting fired in one bloody night, the rest of the homies in the House must be feeling fear. Will the dems start trying to establish a more RIGHT voting record to show their constituents in 2010? Or not.
48 posted on 11/03/2010 6:20:49 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: SMARTY

You are absolutely right but that is the hand that we are dealt with and have to take into consideration. The Donkeys and their lackeys in the MSM could not find any dirt with the likes of Rubio, Johnson, etc. We need to be careful not to fall for candidates like O’Donnell who might say the right thing but have some huge skeletons in their closets.


49 posted on 11/03/2010 6:20:53 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Conservatives control the House and (under it’s rules) the Senate!

An outstanding election!

As for Delaware...
‘pros’ like Rove screwed up the Delaware Republicans so bad over the years it is dishonest to even mention O’Donnell’s role in their failure this year.

Castle WAS the Delaware Republican party and he couldn’t win it’s primary.

They’ll build a viable party there now- more good news!


50 posted on 11/03/2010 6:20:58 AM PDT by mrsmith
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