Posted on 03/15/2010 10:08:18 AM PDT by bubbacluck
The South is rising again. Before I go any further, let me clarify. Sadly, too many in our country possess the superficial and ignorant perception that the only impetus behind southern secession was to perpetuate the abhorrent practice of slavery. Therefore, when they hear such a phrase, their kneejerk reaction tells them this must be about race. I assure you, it’s not.
When the North invaded the South during the 1860s, it was to deny the southern states the ultimate expression of their sovereignty – the ability to withdraw from a union they had voluntarily joined.
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Actually 1814. During the War of 1812. It destroyed the Federalist Party.
This is a possibly unintentional misstatement of what Lincoln said in his speech.
At the time Lincoln and a great many other Free Soil men believed there was a conspiracy among southerners, using the power of the federal government, to force slavery on the rest of the states. There was some evidence at the time and since to support this position. That is what he was concerned about.
Lincoln himself at the time of this speech and up to the Emancipation Proclamation recognized the federal government as having no power to interfere with slavery within a state. He even recognized this in the EP, as it affected only areas in rebellion against the Union.
If the south would’ve won, we’d have it made.
If you haven’t, you should, read “The Grey Book.” It offers insight into freedom for the individual.
Depends on your color, of course.
How many slaves would you own?
Well-written article; thank you for posting it.
But the increase in the size of the federal government brought with it problems of its own.
I love this book.
The Politically Incorrect Guide to The South
http://www.thepoliticallyincorrectguidetothesouth.com/
The Biggest Myths About the South
The South is unsophisticated compared to the North and West Coast. The truth is Southerners invented musical forms like rock and roll, jazz, blues and bluegrass. We created the motion picture industry. The first women’s colleges and the oldest public universities were all started here.
The South is “rural redneck.” The nation’s largest banks and the world’s largest corporation are based here. The first successful black politicians on the national stage were Southerners. The first two Jewish U.S. Senators were Southerners. The most popular destination for people of all races to move to is The South and away from The North.
Southerners supported slavery while Northerners hated it. No Southern alive today disputes that slavery was morally wrong, but the fact remains that all Northern states once had slaves, and virtually all of the slave ships were owned by Yankees. Profits from the slave trade stayed in the North.
Southerners tried to break up the Union. It was New England which invented the idea of secession; first in objection to the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 doubling the nation’s land area, and then in 1814 when New England wanted to trade with enemy England during the War of 1812.
The War For Southern Independence was about “slavery.” While the South foolishly defended slavery in early 1860s rhetoric, The War was really fought over power and money. If Northerners had a moral objection to slavery in the 19th century, why did they finance the slave trade in the 18th century?
The Confederate battle flag symbolizes slavery. The battle flag, designed to resemble the cross favored by Jesus’ disciple St. Andrew, as well as the ancient flag of Scotland, did not fly over any slave ships. It flew over the Confederate ancestors of at least 30 million Southerners who fought, bled, and died defending their homes from invading Union armies.
The Confederate flag is used by the Klan. The largest march ever staged by the Klan was in 1925 Washington, D.C. Thousands of American flags were carried, but not a single Confederate flag. The Klan, when it does march, still carries the U.S. flag.
That was a Hank Williams Jr song
I love my southern brothers but this revionist history is crap. The LEADERSHIP of the South forced a civil war. The SCOTUS decision to open the Territories to slavery guaranteed war.
The first shot was fired by the South at Fort Sumter.
And don’t forge that there is a God in Heaven. The grievous sin of slavery needed attonement.
The South shall rise again, indeed.””
And the blueprint for it can be found in this book—
“The Grey Book.” You won’t find a better read.
>Depends on your color, of course.
>How many slaves would you own?
What about slave-holders who were, themselves, black?
See:
http://www.uwec.edu/Geography/Ivogeler/w188/south/charles/charles3.htm
http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/more-buried-history-black-slave-owners-in-the-us
“One should not overlook the impact of the Scots-Irish on the South’s disdain for centralized government.”
Sounds like you have also read. “Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” Great Book!!!
Follows the path of my own family line very closely, which went from a direct line of Robert the Bruce to the Grapes of Wrath migration West.
The North started the war by trying to resupply a Fort in southern land. They baited the south into it.
The war was based on tax collection. Lincoln actually never cared about slavery and he wanted to send slaves back to Africa or their country of orgin. Lincoln was a tyrant
Be careful, winners write the history books
A house divided cannot stand.
It’s rather silly, when the country is in danger, to go back to the civil war. The South did not win. We ‘are’ one country. The best country on the planet. It’s useless speculation that solves nothing and sounds a bit whiney.
Great song
I used to say “If the South would have won, it would be a third world nation right now.”
My father said “Have you seen Arkansas? It looks like and is run as a third world country.”
Same question then, how many would they own?
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