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Scientists map mitochondrial DNA of prehistoric Neanderthal
AFP ^ | Aug 7, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 08/07/2008 12:37:19 PM PDT by decimon

The bones of a Neanderthal man's skeleton, found during several excavations undertaken in 1856, 1997 and 2000. Researchers announced Thursday that they have sequenced the mitochondrial DNA of a Neanderthal, using genetic material recovered from a 38,000-year-old bone. (AFP/DDP/File/Michael Latz)

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Researchers announced Thursday that they have sequenced the mitochondrial DNA of a Neanderthal, using genetic material recovered from a 38,000-year-old bone.

Scientists said the breakthrough, published in the August 8th issue of the scientific journal Cell, will help resolve lingering questions about the genealogical relationship between the prehistoric hominids and modern man.

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neanderthal
The head bone's connected to the no-neck bone...
1 posted on 08/07/2008 12:37:20 PM PDT by decimon
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Marrow ping.


2 posted on 08/07/2008 12:38:34 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

So now we’ll know if red hair really did come from Neanderthals.


3 posted on 08/07/2008 12:40:10 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: decimon
"Researchers said the new genetic sequencing reveals that Neanderthals had fewer evolutionary changes than Homo Sapiens, which may have made natural selection less effective."

Hmmm... One would hope, but has anyone mapped the Democratic genome and compared it to Neanderthals? I suspect some disturbing similarities may emerge. ;-)

4 posted on 08/07/2008 12:44:47 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Bon mots
Research suggests that the last common ancestor of Neanderthals and humans lived about 660,000 years ago.

Modern humans and neanderthals apparently did not interbreed. I went into the issue thinking that there probably was some relationship, judging by the body type of certain regions, but the evidence is pretty conclusive. Neanderthals left Africa half a million years before modern humans, and when Cro Magnons got to Europe, they did not interbreed. Whether they interacted, we don't know, and maybe never will, but my bet is that there were territorial battles that our kind won, and which led to Neanderthals' ultimate demise.

5 posted on 08/07/2008 12:47:53 PM PDT by Defiant (Democrats complained that the war was for oil. Now they make war ON oil.)
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To: Desron13

In an’ out before the obligatory Helen Thomas photo...


6 posted on 08/07/2008 12:47:53 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Desron13
Hmmm... One would hope, but has anyone mapped the Democratic genome and compared it to Neanderthals? I suspect some disturbing similarities may emerge. ;-)

Well, there's evolution and there's revolution.

7 posted on 08/07/2008 12:47:54 PM PDT by decimon
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To: epluribus_2
In an’ out before the obligatory Helen Thomas photo...

May we be spared.

8 posted on 08/07/2008 12:48:40 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
Scientists map mitochondrial DNA of prehistoric Neanderthal

What other (than prehistoric) kinds of neanderthals were there??

9 posted on 08/07/2008 12:51:12 PM PDT by damondonion
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To: decimon

Theoretically then they could identify the modern day straight line female descendant since the mitochondrial DNA is passed down exclusively by the mother.


10 posted on 08/07/2008 12:52:44 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: damondonion
What other (than prehistoric) kinds of neanderthals were there??

An excellent question for which I have not an adequate answer.

11 posted on 08/07/2008 1:00:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
IBTGC ... (In Before The Geico Commercial)
12 posted on 08/07/2008 1:13:41 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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Aflac!


13 posted on 08/07/2008 1:33:34 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Defiant

If two animals can breed then they are the same species. If they say Neanderthal and man interbreed then they are saying Neanderthals WERE men.


14 posted on 08/07/2008 1:43:15 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Men the breed not the sex (smart asses)


15 posted on 08/07/2008 1:44:12 PM PDT by DManA
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16 posted on 08/07/2008 2:00:31 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: decimon
...a Neanderthal man's skeleton...

You see one Neanderthal, you've seen them all.

17 posted on 08/07/2008 2:13:32 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv

Like the Neanderthals, I’m speechless.


18 posted on 08/07/2008 2:47:06 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: DManA

What the DNA says is that Neanderthals and Man did not breed, or at the least, did not have offspring that survived.


19 posted on 08/07/2008 3:55:40 PM PDT by Defiant (Democrats complained that the war was for oil. Now they make war ON oil.)
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To: decimon
Mitochondrial DNA
20 posted on 08/07/2008 4:02:48 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Defiant

Maybe they were gay and lesbian Neanderthals, who celebrated diversity and were not breeders.

I think Neanderthals caused global warming back in the day, because the earth experienced global warming which ended the last ice age. They never got their carbon credit trading system up to speed.


21 posted on 08/07/2008 4:06:09 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: decimon

I met a woman while we were on vacation who has red hair and brown eyes and she claims that all people with red hair and brown eyes are all descended from the same family in a German village. She may have mentioned the village but I forget. Anyway, we talked about the ginger gene. She had never heard of that theory.


22 posted on 08/07/2008 6:15:36 PM PDT by Mercat (For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.)
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

23 posted on 08/07/2008 10:03:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Ancient DNA Reveals Neandertals With Red Hair, Fair Complexions
Science Magazine | 2007-10-26 | Elizabeth Culotta
Posted on 10/28/2007 4:03:27 PM PDT by Lessismore
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1917675/posts


24 posted on 08/07/2008 10:13:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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25 posted on 08/07/2008 10:13:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Bon mots

I don’t think mitochondrial DNA has any impact on hair color.

It’s interesting that one of the theories of aging has to do with a reduced ability of mitochondria to repair themselves, because their DNA degrades.

But cellular, nuclear DNA has much better repair tools. And in fact out of the couple hundred genomes needed for the mitochondria, only about 19 actually are in the mitochondria, the rest are already in the nucleus.

So the theory is that by using viral vectors, the DNA that is prone to breaking and resequencing could be copied into the nucleus.

It’ll take more than that for somebody to ever get to their four hundredth birthday.
But not much.

We know what aging is. And soon we will be able to prevent and even reverse it.


26 posted on 08/07/2008 10:36:44 PM PDT by djf (Get ready! Buy Cheez Wiz! It goes with anything!)
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To: neverdem

Ping to medical/dna related stuff.


27 posted on 08/07/2008 10:42:39 PM PDT by djf (Get ready! Buy Cheez Wiz! It goes with anything!)
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To: decimon

http://www.cell.com/content/article/abstract?uid=PIIS0092867408007733


28 posted on 08/07/2008 10:46:55 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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thanks, bfl


29 posted on 08/07/2008 11:20:10 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: decimon

Let me know when they map the DNA of a historic one.

If they need help finding some, I’ll be glad to point them towards some likely candidates, both living & dead...or at least dead from the @$$-up.


30 posted on 08/07/2008 11:33:25 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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