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Tsunami linked to Yellowstone crater (~13,000 years ago)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/14/08 | AP

Posted on 01/14/2008 3:56:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge

YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, Wyo. - Tsunami-like waves created by an earthquake may have triggered the world's largest known hydrothermal explosion some 13,000 years ago, a federal scientist says.

The explosion created the Mary Bay crater that stretches more than one mile across along the north edge of Yellowstone Lake. Debris from the explosion has been found miles away.

Lisa Morgan of the U.S. Geological Survey told a gathering of scientists over the weekend at Mammoth Hot Springs that an earthquake may have displaced more than 77 million cubic feet of water in Yellowstone Lake, creating huge waves that essentially unsealed a capped geothermal system.

Though much has been made in recent years of a possible eruption of Yellowstone's "super volcano," geologists studying the park have long said that the likelihood is greater for a large hydrothermal explosion.

Morgan said that over the last 14,000 years there have been 20 hydrothermal explosions in Yellowstone that mostly left craters bigger than football fields. They resulted in well-known Yellowstone landmarks such as Mary Bay, Turbid Lake and Indian Pond, all near the north edge of Yellowstone Lake.

The explosions happen when hot water just below the surface flashes into steam and breaks through the surface.

Smaller explosions in Yellowstone happen about once every two years but rarely when people are around or in danger, according to a 2007 hazard assessment produced by USGS.

In 1989, an explosion at Porkchop geyser at Norris Geyser Basin sent rocks and debris flying more than 200 feet.

But geologists are still trying to better understand the larger explosions that happen about once every 700 years in Yellowstone and have left behind the biggest hydrothermal explosion craters in the world.

At Mary Bay, Morgan said she thinks there were at least two big waves before the explosion. Evidence of those waves has been found more than 3 miles north of the lake's edge, she said.

The explosion's column may have reached more than a mile in the air and spread debris across some 18 square miles, she said.

"You would not want to be here when this occurred," Morgan said.

Predicting if or when another will happen remains difficult but it's worthy of continued study, scientists involved with Yellowstone's geology said.

"It's something we should take notice of," Morgan said.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; crater; godsgravesglyphs; tsunami; yellowstone

1 posted on 01/14/2008 3:56:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
There is a mountain named Hart Mountain just north of Cody, Wyoming. The formations in it are upside down from those around it.

Apperantly it was blasted into the air from Yellowstone and came down north of Cody, upside down.

Now that was some blast.

2 posted on 01/14/2008 4:15:24 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)

http://www.weizmann.ac.il/ESER/People/Einat/8Aharonov_heart_mt.pdf


3 posted on 01/14/2008 4:26:40 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Tsunami-like waves created by an earthquake may have triggered the world's largest known hydrothermal explosion

I hope everyone was alright.

4 posted on 01/14/2008 4:34:44 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: SIDENET

They weren’t all right. Any survivors left the region for a long time.


5 posted on 01/14/2008 4:38:47 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

13,000 years ago,


6 posted on 01/14/2008 4:46:54 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: RightWhale

Sorry. I forgot the sarcasm tag.


7 posted on 01/14/2008 4:48:19 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: SIDENET

So did I. :)


8 posted on 01/14/2008 4:49:11 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: SIDENET

I hope everyone was alright.

Paleowomen and Paleochildren hardest hit.
Paleobush’s fault line.


9 posted on 01/14/2008 4:52:46 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks. What a concidence...I’m presently watching a Toba Super-Volcano documentary on the National Geographic Channel.


10 posted on 01/14/2008 4:53:40 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Dan(9698)

A blast indeed!

In the southern hemisphere, geologists tell us that a massive tnsunami once rose up and hit the south east coast of Australia. It tore through what is now Sydney and all the coastal cities, and actually rose above the Blue Mountains and smashed up the other side, far inland. Unimaginable.

But if there are massive volcanic explosions in Yellowstone, or in the Pacific trough between Australia and New Zealand, one would see such things again. Or not see them - as one would be lying dead on the ground.

Also, the Holy Land is overdue for a good earthquake, so say the experts.


11 posted on 01/14/2008 4:55:03 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
Evidence Of Tunguska-Type Impacts Over The Pacific Basin Around The Year 1178 AD

Meteorite Theory Makes Waves

"On New Zealand's South Island, according to Wollongong University geologist Edward Bryant, are several Maori legends that allude to unimaginable catastrophe. Tales about the falling of the sky, raging winds, fire-storms from space, massive waves and floods. Tales of how the moa, the emu-like New Zealand flightless bird, was killed off by the man/god Tamaatea, who set fire to the land by dropping embers from the sky.

12 posted on 01/14/2008 5:54:56 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: BlackVeil
The Yellowstone caldera has been rising for a few years.

It is rising more on the North side of the lake, so it is spilling water out the south end. It is enough to kill the trees close to the lake.

There are lava flows nearby in Idaho where you can see old lava beds one on top of the other. They are at an angle to each other so you can see the deepest one is badly weathered, the middle one is weathered but not as much.

The top one looks really fresh. I guess it is thousands of years old, but it looks very fresh.

If you fly over Yellowstone, the old volcano is really visible. I haven't looked at it in Google Earth, but I imagine it is like flying over it.

13 posted on 01/14/2008 6:56:34 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: rfp1234

How did the formation layers get to be inverted?


14 posted on 01/14/2008 6:57:18 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust_fault

It's not uncommon to see folds associated with thrusts in the Rockies and other mountain belts. Folding of a sequence of rock layers can cause their inversion. Erosion of part of the sequence may leave only the inverted section exposed.

(Example).

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15 posted on 01/14/2008 7:18:09 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: BenLurkin; 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; Berosus; ...
Thanks BenLurkin. Pretty dull as catastrophes go, but still interesting, not least because of the dating.
 
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16 posted on 01/14/2008 9:46:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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17 posted on 01/14/2008 9:47:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: NormsRevenge

Interesting. If something like that happened today, many people would be dead.


18 posted on 01/14/2008 10:10:02 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wasn’t 13,000 ya in the middle of a period of glacial advance?


19 posted on 01/14/2008 10:40:20 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Mike Darancette

That could be,, have to check for sure.. would have made one heck of a mess..


20 posted on 01/14/2008 10:48:34 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Dan(9698)

It is not that they are inverted, there are just older formations overlying younger ones. Which is classic thrust fault situation, but in this case it was a massive slide along a plane of detachment leaving islands of older rocks, called klippen, on top of much younger rocks.


21 posted on 01/15/2008 5:44:48 AM PST by doodad
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To: rfp1234

As they say in structural geology, thrusting causes overturned beds. :)


22 posted on 01/15/2008 5:45:33 AM PST by doodad
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To: doodad

“”As they say in structural geology, thrusting causes overturned beds. :)””

My kind of Mensa moron! LOL!


23 posted on 01/15/2008 6:41:40 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's reward.)
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To: Mike Darancette; NormsRevenge
Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (Carolina Bays)
24 posted on 01/15/2008 7:05:46 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SIDENET
I hope everyone was alright.

They're all dead now...

25 posted on 01/15/2008 7:41:01 AM PST by null and void (Conservatives are tired of being sucked up to every 4 years and stabbed in the back for the next 3.)
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To: blam

Where are the Carolina Bays? i want to check them on google maps.


26 posted on 01/15/2008 7:57:55 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: shuckmaster

Check in a line from south GA to east Carolinas. Coastal Plain area.


27 posted on 01/15/2008 8:08:03 AM PST by doodad
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To: shuckmaster
"Where are the Carolina Bays? i want to check them on google maps."

Over 500,000 of them onthe east coast if the US. Ahem, start looking in South Carolina.

Carolina Bays


28 posted on 01/15/2008 8:08:30 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Mike Darancette; blam
Pretty interesting, isn’t it, that those theorizing a massive comet impact in North America triggered the Younger Dryas date it to 12,900 years ago, the sweet spot for this event???
29 posted on 01/15/2008 8:49:04 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: blam; All

What is the orientation of this Yellowstone Bay? Photo/map anyone? Could it have been caused by the same event as the Carolina Bays rather than a tsunami from the lake?


30 posted on 01/15/2008 9:30:02 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: blam; doodad

Thank you! I quickly found a bunch of them zooming in on Myrtle Beach and then the area NW of the city.


31 posted on 01/15/2008 9:58:21 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: gleeaikin
"What is the orientation of this Yellowstone Bay? Photo/map anyone? Could it have been caused by the same event as the Carolina Bays rather than a tsunami from the lake?"

I was hoping someone would ask that question...I don't know.

32 posted on 01/15/2008 9:58:59 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: gleeaikin; colorado tanker; SunkenCiv
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: How a Stone-Age Comet Changed the Course of World Culture


33 posted on 01/15/2008 10:05:11 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam; gleeaikin

Good thinkin’!Good thinkin’!


34 posted on 01/15/2008 10:09:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: Dan(9698)
Now that was some blast.

The geological history of Wyoming is astounding. While the Heart Mountain event appears to be more of a massive landslide than a blast, there have been plenty of Big Blasts in the state's past. For a great trip through that past read John McPhee's wonderful book: "Rising from the Plains."

35 posted on 01/15/2008 11:30:58 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: blam
You have posted that several times, blam - dang it, I’m just gonna have to buy that book and read it.
36 posted on 01/15/2008 11:54:52 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker; SunkenCiv
"You have posted that several times, blam - dang it, I’m just gonna have to buy that book and read it."

SunkenCiv did it to me several times before I bought it.

So...he's the one who started it.

37 posted on 01/15/2008 1:22:23 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

:’) I resemble that remark.


38 posted on 01/15/2008 10:14:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: colorado tanker

We’ve got gleeaikin too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1946905/posts?page=7#7


39 posted on 01/15/2008 10:52:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: SunkenCiv
Dust In The Wind
40 posted on 01/16/2008 6:49:51 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SunkenCiv

To fully understand the Carolina Bays phenomenon, it appears necessary to conduct a close inspection of the local beaches and golf courses.


41 posted on 01/16/2008 10:03:00 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: doodad

Um, slats all folks.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 10:20:34 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Yes, I confess, I am reading it now. Incidentally, looking through the book, I see the page with two possible strikes in Lake Michigan. However, looking at the lake’s shoreline, it looks like there could have been a third one between the other two. This would then coincide with the three lines of sight shown on the map earlier in the thread. The sight lines are west of Lake Michigan because the earth was moving so fast that it had shifted position by the time the ejecta landed in the Carolinas.


43 posted on 01/16/2008 10:26:14 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

:’) FWIW, I wholeheartedly agree.


44 posted on 01/16/2008 11:32:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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