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Suspect's DNA is a match in JonBenet Ramsey case
KUSA-TV | 8/16/06 | KUSA-TV

Posted on 08/16/2006 4:35:14 PM PDT by varyouga

Just breaking on KUSA-TV in Denver that the suspect arrested today in the case matches the DNA at the crime scene. Nothing on the web yet...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 1nodnamatch; 2dnadoesnotmatch; dna; homoscapegoat; johnkarr; jonbenet; karr; karrisaliar; pedophileteacher; ramsey
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To: Sacajaweau
OMG..someone please tell me I didn't hear that they neglected to check out this guys DNA BEFORE they went public with this?

Tell me they just didn't "take a swab" and are waiting for the results???

If he's not a match, I hope they release the crazy little fruit fly and let him earn his own ticket back to the US..

sw

401 posted on 08/18/2006 5:46:19 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Sacajaweau
I think they have one test already completed

What makes you think this?????

Verification please.

402 posted on 08/18/2006 5:59:42 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Dumpster Baby; Conservative Texan Mom
I agree with you , DB about Steve Thomas....spot on.

Another good book....fair, balanced, considerate of all angles...

..is Perfect Murder, Perfect Town

The author wrote a very non prejudiced, thoughtful, detailed account...

..and I still came away with the thought that one of the parents was complicit in the murder, if only by accident, then the cover-up by both parents.

403 posted on 08/18/2006 6:05:13 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: MAWG

Pardon me, but the autopsy said evidence of a sexual assault was "inconclusive." Wherever you heard she was sodomized with a paint brush, it is most likely embellishment.


404 posted on 08/18/2006 6:23:48 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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To: Houmatt
" Wherever you heard she was sodomized with a paint brush is probably embellishment."

Who said anything about sodomy? The Medical Examiner from Phoenix was hired by the Boulder D.A. to review the forensic evidence and give them his opinion. Smart move by the new D.A. He found a sliver of wood in Jonbenets' vagina and matched it to a wooden paintbrush in the basement. He correctly deduced from this evidence that the butt end of the paint brush was used to symbolically rape Jonbenet, not uncommon with sexual predators. This caused the abrasions to her vaginal wall and was responsible for the blood found in her underwear. This M.E. was part of a panel of experts on the Nancy Grace show Wed. night.

405 posted on 08/18/2006 7:20:30 AM PDT by MAWG
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To: MAWG

Look: If the DNA matches, then an apology is in order. However, that does not explain the ransom note or the behavior of the Ramseys. Anyone who says what they did is in line with the discovery of a dead child should get their head examined.


406 posted on 08/19/2006 5:50:13 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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To: Houmatt
It really doesnt matter to me if the dna matches or not. I hope that it does and this 10 year nightmare is over. But, that wasnt my point.

The M.E. from Phoenix let slip some info that was new to me and I've read a GREAT deal about this case. Jonbenet was raped with a paint brush. For either of her parents to do something like this to that little girl there would have to be a LONG history of pathological and criminal behavior. It isnt there. Case closed.

As for the behavior of the Ramseys, I really dont see what the problem is. Actually, we really dont know how they behaved. And I dont blame them at all for seeking counsel from an attorney. I would have done the same. The ransom note is not a problem. Whoever the killer was, I believe we'll find out he worked in the house as part of a remodeling crew, most likely painters and either overheard Patsy talking to John on the phone about the money or saw some paperwork. WAY too much has been made of the ransom note and it is the first place that people who hate or are envious of the Ramseys , hang their hat. The real evidence in this case points directly to a very sick predator who violently and brutally raped/symbolically and killed this little girl.

407 posted on 08/19/2006 9:02:56 AM PDT by MAWG
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To: vox_freedom

Well, just as you and your cohort are quick to judge us (who, by the way built our opinions over 10 years time versus your 1 day with this new supposed confession) with the benefit of only a day or two coverage on the little sicko in Thailand, your bubble will quickly burst as it is now looking more like he just wanted to get his ass out of tough ass Thai jail...The guy is unbalanced and most likely was NEVER near the poor child. Quit grasping at straws because you have empathy for the mother et al. For you to remember everyone's tag who didn't fit your opinion on the discussions a while back tells me you've invested WAY too much of your emotions in this case.


408 posted on 08/19/2006 7:19:46 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MizSterious

Not likely Miz...see #408....


409 posted on 08/19/2006 7:21:13 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Hah. I see you haven't kept up with your reading, else you'd know he wasn't IN a Thai jail until the US issued their warrant. He might have had other reasons for a confession, but getting out of a Thai jail wasn't one of them.


410 posted on 08/19/2006 7:49:41 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Gaffer
Nothing I wrote proclaims Karr as the perp, in fact I have very real doubts as to his complicity in this case; nor should you and others have judged Mrs. Ramsey as guilty until there is adequate proof offered.
I agree with you that Karr is unbalanced, and a pedophile, and there is probability that he was obsessed with this young child and her demise/murder/death. And no, my bubble hasn't been burst.
But given the unattibuted DNA (not the Ramsey's by the way) on Jonbenet's clothing and ransom note (not from the home) and physical evidence of an outside intruder(s) I don't believe it was appropriate to proclaim the Ramsey's guilty.
411 posted on 08/19/2006 9:00:37 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: MizSterious

I have been out of town and could only get a glimpse of CNN (and some local NJ outlets) once in a while - poor source. Regardless, there is enough to be fairly certain that he wasn't anywhere near Boulder when she was killed; and that was the main point of my comments to your "calumny" remark.


412 posted on 08/20/2006 3:49:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: vox_freedom
I have never written here that I thought the mother was guilty. I believe it was the son, as distasteful to you as it might seem. If the parents were guilty of anything, it is (I believe) protecting their own son.

Karr will be written off as a kook, probably charged for something unrelated to this, and this whole episode will probably serve to reinforce those who believe it was an "unconnected" perp that killed that little girl. Me? I think we will never find out what really happened.

413 posted on 08/20/2006 3:52:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I never used the word "culumny."

That said, the alibis are not at all certain. His ex-wife is now backing off the "certainty" thing, and there's also the problem of the dualing alibis--his brother was in one state, and claimed he spent that Christmas with him, and his ex is in another, and says SHE spent that Christmas with him. Some magicians of old used to claim the ability to BI-locate (be in two places at the same time), but this guy seems to have performed the feat of TRI-locating! ;)

Fox News is reporting that he's now on a plane back to the US--perhaps an arraignment will be soon forthcoming. If so, we might learn more. So far, most of what the media is reporting is rumor and unsubstantiated stories. You can almost get whiplash trying to keep up with all the retractions and changes.

(Note to ALL--if the media can't cover a smaller story like this one, how wrong must they be on the Middle East coverage??)


414 posted on 08/20/2006 6:26:23 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Gaffer

" I believe it was the son."

He was ten years old! Do you honestly believe he raped his sister with a paintbrush? The dna found in her underwear and under her fingernails DOES NOT MATCH him or the father. The boy does not have a history of mental problems! ..... Shall I go on or better yet, try reading up on this case or maybe even try reading some of this thread.


415 posted on 08/20/2006 7:01:28 AM PDT by MAWG
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To: California Patriot
You are a male, right?

Those wailing against you are female, nearly all. All that I've noticed so far.

I think your's and their's aspect of this discussion thread is a very fundamental gender-related issue. Just another dust-up in the ancient War Between the Sexes.

You are making your argument in male terms. Male to male. They respond is some ways male-like, but not quite. Still 100 degrees female.

Here's what happened -- you busted into a female-only coffee clatch and don't realize it. They don't realize it either and think that they can play act males.

What a New World! Novus Orbim ... whatever that latin NWO phrase is. The (Orwellian) Brave New World of the internet!

You have run into a pack of alpha females vicously rending the raw bloody meat from their coffee cake.

416 posted on 08/20/2006 7:14:04 AM PDT by bvw
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To: MizSterious; MAWG
An interesting article, published today from the London Herald:

JonBenet case: further disturbing details emerge

417 posted on 08/20/2006 7:36:45 AM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: vox_freedom
You might want to place this article on a thread of its own to preserve it.
418 posted on 08/20/2006 9:04:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: everyone


We cannot draw conclusions from what we read in the media. The Thai official who said that Karr said specific things now says he misspoke.

It's a fool's errand to pronounce any kind of judgment on anyone!


419 posted on 08/20/2006 9:23:09 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: bvw

Yes, I'm a guy. And you're probably right. I hadn't assumed it was an all-women discussion in this thread, but it may well be close to that. I'm no expert on women, but I should know by now that you don't try to break into a conversation between women unless you 1) are one, or 2) are very charismatic. I should also know that it is impossible to persuade a woman that she should not be interested in something. That said, there hasn't been much in the way of attacks against me. It happened last night on another thread, but that's unrelated.


420 posted on 08/20/2006 11:52:29 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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