Our Candy Ass Military

14 august 2006 | rider237

[rider237]

this weeks "navy times" came out. it had the usual articles in it. one very touching one about the last carrier operations of the f-14s. then.....

[rider237]

then i came across two articles that first made me shake my head, then got me to thinking about my own experience in the military.

please raise your hand if you were ever in the service. keep it up if you ever participated in solving the unit, command, and world problems, around th butt can or over (many) drinks.

in his infinite wisdom, adm hering has decided that his command needs some alcohol restrictions put on it. no drinking under 21. 3 drink limit. lets see....you can go to war and be shot at when you reach the age of 18, or 17 with your parents permission, but you can't drink on base. am i the only one who sees a problem with that?

then there is smoking. A STUDY HAS BEEN DONE that shows people who enlist and smoke more than 1 pack a day when they enlist, are more apt to not finish their first enlistment thus costing the military money.

flash to the military....expensive toilet seats and screw drivers you can get by without. people you need. how picky can you afford to be?

when i went to LA last year, the conditions were pretty primitive. those of us who smoke, were smoking more, and those who had quit, were picking it back up. now, compared to being shot at, our conditions were great! you want to tell a young soldier or sailor they can't smoke for stress relief?

smoking is bad for you. i just quit again. drinking in excess is bad for you. i don't do it any more. i can not imagine having gone through my military career with out both of those diversions. different people choose different ways to relieve stress.

i also can not imagine what my sea stories would be like if i had to remove from my experiences things like; crossing the quarter deck trying to act sober (and thinking i'd done a good job of it), only to find out that i'd gotten a black eye running into the bulkhead that same night.

i do not think that the military should encourage smoking and drinking. i do not mind if drinking is restricted where there is a proven problem. restricting areas for smoking and non? fine idea. allowing candy ass academy grads to turn the finest military in the world into a PC, dry, and smoke free, organization....sure, and then we can join up with the EU and sing "we are the world...."

[Mr. Lucky]

You don't advocate your cause terribly well.

[r9etb]

Buh bye....

[Tijeras_Slim]

drinking in excess is bad for you. i don't do it any more.

Could'a fooled me.

[MineralMan]

You really might want to spend a little time working on that capitalization if you're really trying to make a point here.

[GeronL]

Wow... you have a point. But you need to capitalize. Your not one of those super-egalitarians who are opposed to capital letters on principle are you? =o)

You do have a point.

[MarkeyD]

[sully777]

FWIW, I don't know if my old buddy is a FReeper but I remember him telling me he could drink his commanding officers under the table. Sharing hangover-war stories with his superiors made him popular. And popularity sometimes has its advantages in the military.

[GeronL]

I think his point is that a drinking age of 21 is stupid, especially in the military.

[pissant]

You wasted your first post on this mumbo jumbo?

[jdm]

"those of us who smoke, were smoking more, and those who had quit, were picking it back up."

Can I get me a thunderous...

BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!

[Cobra64]

due yew have a broken shift kee? or r u just lazy?

[rider237]

i have been writing these since the first bbs's came out. have never used caps and never will. it is a recognized style.

our early ways gave birth to the internet that you now enjoy.

[DoughtyOne]

i also can not imagine what my sea stories would be like if i had to remove from my experiences things like; crossing the quarter deck trying to act sober (and thinking i'd done a good job of it), only to find out that i'd gotten a black eye running into the bulkhead that same night.

yep, the military is obviously over-reacting where no problem exsists

you convinced me

[keat]

Prepare for some friendly fire.

Just keep your head down for a bit and you'll be fine.

[dighton]

Worst title ever.

[WakeUpAndVote]

i think that i sense someone did not do so well in english.

i really do. maybe the candy a$$ed cadets might know how to start a sentence. i don't know. what do i know.

[Constitution Day]

Not using a perfectly good shift key makes you look like an IDIOT.

I'm just sayin'.

[proud_yank]

LOL!

IBTZ

[Fiddlstix]

You really might want to spend a little time working on that capitalization if you're really trying to make a point here.

Ditto.
Ya beat me to it. I was gonna post that.

[Al Gator]

u still use dos to?

[edpc]

e. e. cummings wannabe?

[Cobra64]

[Coldwater Creek]

No caps Food stuck under the key!!!!!!

[onyx]

allowing candy ass academy grads

Your envy is showing.

[Fiddlstix]

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[proud_yank]

our early ways gave birth to the internet that you now enjoy.

Al Gore gave us the internet. Havun't u learnt anythang in skool?

[SE Mom]

You know..you might receive a better welcome had you chosen a different title for your vanity post.

I know more than a few soldiers...not a candy donkey in the group. You're obviously unhappy with some leadership decisions- and you may be right- but I find your title OFFENSIVE.

[rider237]

from time to time it comes in handy. i know i date myself, but yes, i still know dos.

[dynachrome]

[Flyer]

it is a recognized style.

Yep. I recognize it for exactly what it is.

[Lucky9teen]

Isn't the military training for war-type situations? If so, then why would we want drunk men guarding our nation? I can understand certain "off-times", but I also believe when in training, they should be as prepared as possible for any type of scenario. And being drunk does not help one be prepared.

Also, although I agree it should be allowed in certain areas and at certain times, smoking can give a soldiers position away if they abuse the restrictions.

Just my $.02.

[edpc]

expensive toilet seats and screw drivers you can get by without. people you need.

Master Yoda? Is that you???

[WV Mountain Mama]

Well, I'm glad you didn't pick this week to stop sniffing glue.

[RedRover]

Incoming flames.

[Constitution Day]

have never used caps and never will.

Oh, so you're cultivating the look of willful stupidity, not genetic. I understand now.

Good luck with all that.

[WakeUpAndVote]

Ok, I give on the BBS stuff. I fooled with Vbbs back in the early 90's. That was when you could get by with a 14.4 connection.

Memories *sigh

[aft_lizard]

I dont know what you said, and I read it twice.

Is it smoking and drinking in the military is bad or is it smoking and drinking in the military is ok but still bad or what?

PS your title really sucks...its almost zot worthy.

[sully777]

You wasted your first post on this mumbo jumbo?

---

Otter: "Give the guy a break...why we even thought Stork here was retarded when he first pledged..."~~Animal House

[NTW64]

Well you managed to draw out the tards and flamers anyway...

[rider237]

really? but your read it. anyone can post a boring title.

"military restricts drinking" "smokers quite military early" who would read that?

i am watching my military become "kinder and gentler" and less and less efficient. that makes me angry.

much of my family still serve. both my sons serve. if they are going to dedicate their lives to the military, i want them to be part of a killing machine, not a social club run by people who have never seen dirt up close.

[Al Gator]

"it is a recognized style.
Yep. I recognize it for exactly what it is."

Ease up a bit. Back in bad old days of the BBS', we paid by the character. Times change and ol rider here should try catching up, but his point is clear, the military is getting more and more feminized.

Flew with a few mustangs who would be in the brig today.

Flew with a CO who stood on the flight line, lit his smoke, gave us the signal to huff the bird before he even got ready to climb up in.

But like I say, times change.

[Cobra64]

have been writing these since the first bbs's came out. have never used caps and never will. it is a recognized style.

our early ways gave birth to the internet that you now enjoy.

Then don't bother posting. No one wants to wade through a four hundred word sentence. You could never get a job in the business world.

Thanks for coming.

Bye.

[ArrogantBustard]

Your keyboard has two keys labeled "Shift". Using them gets you capital letters. You're not the only person around here that's been using computers for the last Geological Age. (Do you know what a PDP-11 is? Have you ever used one? Do you know what an acoustic coupler is? Can you give a one sentence explanation why it would be very difficult to use one today?) Some of us learned to use our shift keys 'way back in the dim and distant prehistoric era of UNIVAC. We haven't forgotten.

Just something to think about.

[MikefromOhio]

How damn DARE you post something like this on my birthday?

BeGONE troll!

[msnimje]

Apparently you have a problem with authority.

You do not recognize the rules of grammar nor the rules of the military. The whole point of rules of grammar are so that the person you are writing to (your audience) understands what you are writing. It is not about YOU, it is about the person to whom you are writing.

The military is not about a single person but rather the unit or "machine." God help us all if the military were full of babies like you demanding their right to destroy their health. The fitter the soldier the better the military and the better the military the safer the world.

[SCPatriot77]

Great post rider, keep up the good work. I'm actually less intelligent after reading your thread.

[humblegunner]

Have you ever head of capitalizing the first word in every sentence?

It's a radical new trend sweeping the country.

[WV Mountain Mama]

Happy birthday!!

[MikefromOhio]

Thank you :)