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Why do so many drugs work on this tryptophan pathway? I need some comments/ideas.
by Self | 12/11/2005 | Tom (aka oxcart)

Posted on 12/11/2005 2:40:15 PM PST by oxcart

In the 60's to 1989 research into tryptophan grew rapidly, millions used it for depression. In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return. This destroyed all research into this critical amino acid and cleared the way for pharmaceutical drugs and billions of profits for them.

I am asking the question, why do so many drugs work on the tryptophan oxygenase (pyrrolase) pathway?

We have antidepressants (all classes). Related articles; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7126996

And here; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1826617

Then we have alcohol; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10721064&query_hl=9

Then we have asprin; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7082905&query_hl=15

Nicotine, morphine, phenobarbitone http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=989&query_hl=17

then we have Narcan (naloxone) the overdose drug which has the opposite effect on tryptophan metabolism here; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=6664250&query_hl=17

Tryptophan pyrrolase (oxygenase) is induced by stress (lowering brain TP), is this the flight or fight response?

Is too much stress a cause for alcoholism and other drug addiction?

Why do so many drugs act on this tryptophan pathway?

And why was tryptophan never let back on the market?

Any Freepers want to touch this subject?

PLEASE, NO TURKEY JOKES!


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KEYWORDS: addiction; alcoholism; antidepressants; anxiety; cortisone; depression; melatonin; oxygenase; pyrrolase; serotonin; stress; tdo2; tryptophan
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1 posted on 12/11/2005 2:40:18 PM PST by oxcart
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To: oxcart
L Tryptophan is available now.
Google it and you will find many sources.

SO9

2 posted on 12/11/2005 2:46:50 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: blam; Coleus

"In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return."

Strange how a single (foreign) contaminated batch caused the ban, eh?


3 posted on 12/11/2005 5:19:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: oxcart
I do research in this area and have some questions, please.

Do you want tryptophan?

Why?

4 posted on 12/11/2005 6:09:33 PM PST by Rudder
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To: SunkenCiv
Sukenciv;

Yes it is, ever read this article?

http://www.ceri.com/trypto.htm

Showa Denko (the maker of the bad batch) changed their manufacturing process that led to this "bad batch". It was so well timed...right before Prozac was rolled out!

Best,

Tom
5 posted on 12/11/2005 6:48:04 PM PST by oxcart
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To: Rudder

No Rudder I do not want tryptophan. I use to take it for depression. It worked so well I wondered why it was taken off the market. When I found the link to tryptophan oxygenase (pyrrolase) and the common denominator to how antidepressants work it blew my mind. Are you in the medical field?

Best,

Tom


6 posted on 12/11/2005 6:55:24 PM PST by oxcart
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To: SunkenCiv
yes, at the time the ssri's became available. nice excuse
7 posted on 12/11/2005 6:59:52 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: oxcart
In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return.

Check the vitamin aisle at WalMart.

It is good stuff.

8 posted on 12/11/2005 7:01:41 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
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To: oxcart
And why was tryptophan never let back on the market? >>

it's always been available through prescription but the problem is trying to convince your doctor to write it and your pharmacist to compound it.
9 posted on 12/11/2005 7:01:56 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Lil'freeper


10 posted on 12/11/2005 7:02:36 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: oxcart
Google

11 posted on 12/11/2005 7:27:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: oxcart

Heres a great resource:

http://www.erowid.org/smarts/tryptophan/


12 posted on 12/11/2005 8:48:34 PM PST by boulderite20
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To: SunkenCiv
"In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return." Strange how a single (foreign) contaminated batch caused the ban, eh?

The contamination occurred when it was made by genetically engineered bacteria. The FDA banned tryptophane, even though it had a 25 year safety record, and immediately gave approval to genetically engineered tomatoes at the same time. There's logic.

13 posted on 12/12/2005 12:43:57 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

:'D


14 posted on 12/12/2005 1:31:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: boulderite20

thanks Bolder


15 posted on 12/12/2005 2:42:28 PM PST by oxcart
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

There is tryptophan and there is 5-HTP...there is a big difference.


16 posted on 12/12/2005 2:43:29 PM PST by oxcart
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To: Coleus

I know coleus, those are the hoops I had to jump through too.


17 posted on 12/12/2005 2:44:32 PM PST by oxcart
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To: aimhigh

Logic at the FDA? lol


18 posted on 12/12/2005 2:45:35 PM PST by oxcart
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To: oxcart

what about using 5-htp and niacinamide


19 posted on 12/12/2005 6:47:21 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

I use 5-HTP for help with getting deep sleep. It's also used for Depression (which I've got), and a good bit of other stuff.

Haven't heard of niacinamide.


20 posted on 12/13/2005 6:15:09 PM PST by lil_rebbitzen ("A Christian Gentleman is a patient wolf who will wait until the honeymoon." - Blurblogger)
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