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Why do so many drugs work on this tryptophan pathway? I need some comments/ideas.
by Self
| 12/11/2005
| Tom (aka oxcart)
Posted on 12/11/2005 2:40:15 PM PST by oxcart
In the 60's to 1989 research into tryptophan grew rapidly, millions used it for depression. In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return. This destroyed all research into this critical amino acid and cleared the way for pharmaceutical drugs and billions of profits for them.
I am asking the question, why do so many drugs work on the tryptophan oxygenase (pyrrolase) pathway?
We have antidepressants (all classes). Related articles; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7126996
And here; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1826617
Then we have alcohol; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10721064&query_hl=9
Then we have asprin; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7082905&query_hl=15
Nicotine, morphine, phenobarbitone http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=989&query_hl=17
then we have Narcan (naloxone) the overdose drug which has the opposite effect on tryptophan metabolism here; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=6664250&query_hl=17
Tryptophan pyrrolase (oxygenase) is induced by stress (lowering brain TP), is this the flight or fight response?
Is too much stress a cause for alcoholism and other drug addiction?
Why do so many drugs act on this tryptophan pathway?
And why was tryptophan never let back on the market?
Any Freepers want to touch this subject?
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KEYWORDS: addiction; alcoholism; antidepressants; anxiety; cortisone; depression; melatonin; oxygenase; pyrrolase; serotonin; stress; tdo2; tryptophan
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posted on
12/11/2005 2:40:18 PM PST
by
oxcart
To: oxcart
L Tryptophan is available now.
Google it and you will find many sources.
SO9
To: blam; Coleus
"In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return."
Strange how a single (foreign) contaminated batch caused the ban, eh?
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posted on
12/11/2005 5:19:36 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
To: oxcart
I do research in this area and have some questions, please.
Do you want tryptophan?
Why?
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posted on
12/11/2005 6:09:33 PM PST
by
Rudder
To: SunkenCiv
Sukenciv;
Yes it is, ever read this article?
http://www.ceri.com/trypto.htm
Showa Denko (the maker of the bad batch) changed their manufacturing process that led to this "bad batch". It was so well timed...right before Prozac was rolled out!
Best,
Tom
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posted on
12/11/2005 6:48:04 PM PST
by
oxcart
To: Rudder
No Rudder I do not want tryptophan. I use to take it for depression. It worked so well I wondered why it was taken off the market. When I found the link to tryptophan oxygenase (pyrrolase) and the common denominator to how antidepressants work it blew my mind. Are you in the medical field?
Best,
Tom
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posted on
12/11/2005 6:55:24 PM PST
by
oxcart
To: SunkenCiv
yes, at the time the ssri's became available. nice excuse
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posted on
12/11/2005 6:59:52 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: oxcart
In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return. Check the vitamin aisle at WalMart.
It is good stuff.
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posted on
12/11/2005 7:01:41 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
To: oxcart
And why was tryptophan never let back on the market? >>
it's always been available through prescription but the problem is trying to convince your doctor to write it and your pharmacist to compound it.
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posted on
12/11/2005 7:01:56 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: Lil'freeper
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posted on
12/11/2005 7:02:36 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: oxcart
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posted on
12/11/2005 7:27:11 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
To: oxcart
To: SunkenCiv
"In 1989, a contaminated batch forced the FDA to pull tryptophan off the US market, never to return." Strange how a single (foreign) contaminated batch caused the ban, eh?The contamination occurred when it was made by genetically engineered bacteria. The FDA banned tryptophane, even though it had a 25 year safety record, and immediately gave approval to genetically engineered tomatoes at the same time. There's logic.
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posted on
12/12/2005 12:43:57 PM PST
by
aimhigh
To: aimhigh
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posted on
12/12/2005 1:31:14 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
To: boulderite20
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posted on
12/12/2005 2:42:28 PM PST
by
oxcart
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
There is tryptophan and there is 5-HTP...there is a big difference.
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posted on
12/12/2005 2:43:29 PM PST
by
oxcart
To: Coleus
I know coleus, those are the hoops I had to jump through too.
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posted on
12/12/2005 2:44:32 PM PST
by
oxcart
To: aimhigh
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posted on
12/12/2005 2:45:35 PM PST
by
oxcart
To: oxcart
what about using 5-htp and niacinamide
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posted on
12/12/2005 6:47:21 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: Coleus
I use 5-HTP for help with getting deep sleep. It's also used for Depression (which I've got), and a good bit of other stuff.
Haven't heard of niacinamide.
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posted on
12/13/2005 6:15:09 PM PST
by
lil_rebbitzen
("A Christian Gentleman is a patient wolf who will wait until the honeymoon." - Blurblogger)
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