Posted on 10/17/2019 6:39:19 AM PDT by EyesOfTX
Remember those Republicans who supported Nancy Pelosi and betrayed the American voters with this vote. I have very often been thoroughly disgusted with the behavior of spineless, disloyal Republicans in the U.S. Congress, but seldom as disgusted as I felt on Wednesday afternoon.
That was when we got news that 129 Republican members of the U.S. House of Representatives joined with Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat caucus in a vote to condemn President Trumps decision to pull U.S. military personnel out of harms way as the Turkish military invaded Northern Syria on Sunday. That decision involved about 50 U.S. military advisors who would have otherwise been trapped between the Turkish and Kurdish forces, and another 1,000 or so U.S. personnel who were already well away from the front.
This vote was a shameful act, and Im frankly embarrassed to see the names of Texans like Kevin Brady, Dan Crenshaw and John Ratcliffe on the list of yea votes for this despicable, non-binding resolution. Here is why these were shameful votes: The U.S. Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war on another country. If these posturing, blustering politicians truly feel so horrified by the Presidents decision to keep our countrys military personnel safe, and so strongly about siding with the Kurdish forces who, by the way, regularly make incursions into Turkey against U.S. advice then they need to man-up and hold a vote on a declaration of war.
Doing what they did on Wednesday is simply political posturing designed to allow them to go tell their voters that they bravely defied the President in a vote that in reality does nothing but provide political support for the Democrat Party. Its disgusting, and I had hoped that I would not see the three men listed above whom I have held in high regard engaging in this sort of political cowardice.
Most Americans have no regard at all for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, who is a despicable, brutish thug. But the centuries-old conflict between the Turks and the Kurds is every bit as unsolvable as all the myriad other centuries-old conflicts involving various peoples and religious factions in the Middle East. These conflicts existed long before the United States of America was born, and will persist long after the Democrats succeed in dividing the U.S. into two or more separate nations.
They are, in other words, not our problem, and if the last 28 years have taught us nothing else, they should have taught every American that neither our country nor any other nation on earth, no matter how well-intentioned or powerful, is capable of resolving them peacefully. All we are capable of doing is ensuring the ongoing killing takes place in a reorganized fashion.
Donald Trump was elected to the presidency in large part to get our military personnel out of the middle of never-ending conflicts like this one, and that is what he decided to do on Sunday. He inherited a set of quagmires from his four predecessors in office, holding a mandate from the voters to get our country out of them.
For members of congress, for warmonger John McCain disciples like Lindsey Graham, who are currently wringing their hands about the supposed rebirth of ISIS, the way to prevent that being a threat to America is to act on the other main reason why Donald Trump won the 2016 election and pass legislation designed to get control of our damn borders.
In other words, instead of going on Fox News and CNN to channel John McCain and lecture the President about abandoning our allies, Graham and Brady and Ratcliffe and Chrenshaw need to be going on those channels and others to pound the Democrats for abandoning the American people.
But that would take political will, something that is always in short supply among Republican members of congress.
Again, here is the link to the roll call on Wednesdays show vote. Memorize those 129 Republican names, and if one of them represents your district, do something to let them know about your displeasure with yesterdays abandonment of the American people. Because the 2016 election was a referendum on this very issue, and their side lost.
That is all.
I presume Democrats voted like lemmings.
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I envy Democrats in one way: they have a party that fights for them. We don’t.
I posted this on another thread.....
Heres the final roll call vote for the
Opposing the decision to end certain United States efforts to prevent Turkish military operations against Syrian Kurdish forces in Northeast Syria Bill.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll560.xml
Scratching my head why so many Rs, including Nunes and Scalise, voted for this slap in POTUS face.
Why didnt they just vote to condemn Erogan???
I want to see Obamacare completely repealed. I want to see immigration loop holes closed. I want to see the tax cuts made permanent, not like they are today where they time out and go up without a vote to raise them.
These and many other things will never happen without having both house and senate.
While president Trump has done a great many great things, as a president, anything he has done can be undone by the next dem president unless it is codified into law. What was already codified into law but until Trump was not being enforced, will once again be cast aside, unenforced, and clearly the judiciary cant be relied upon to stop that.
Trump can pull repubs along. The dems will just throw fits and point fingers, running out the clock on the Trump presidency.
Now what do you want to have happen?
Good morning - Ours, Woodall - voted Yay! He’s not running again - goody! We had a flyer dropped at the house for some gal who is running but not the district. I assumed it’s for ours or it wouldn’t have come here. Her name was not prounceable but she was a former executive at Home Depot, I believe. I threw it away! I’ll remember the name as the time gets closer for voting.
I’ve seen your guy Hice do some good work...so I’m disappointed to hear that you didn’t think much of him. I must have seen him at a better time.
I hate seeing some of the names on that list but as the writer pointed out Ratcliffe, Crenshaw and Brady are really hard to take. Crenshaw made sure he got the vote based on his military record but votes more often than not against the president...someone on FR said some time ago, he couldn’t have run in TX and won as a demonrat...I’m really disappointed in Ratcliffe....
You have a good day...
This is being packaged by the media (including Fox) that Trump stabbed the Kurds in the back. The Congressmen went back to their districts andgot an earful. This was a show vote for them. The truth is Trump took a courageous move that goes against the Washington elite. We have been trying the same BS for 50 years and it doesn’t work. I was in the military during Vietnam and will never forget how we left in disgrace after the politicians got through with us. Fight to win - not to maintain.
I don’t know about you or anyone else here but my eyes have sure been opened in the past 4 years...I guess we should be thankful that so much wretched stuff has taken place that we’re now able to see we didn’t send 535 honest people to DC and we don’t have honest people in the federal law enforcement agencies. The old “every man for himself” seems to be the perfect application to what we see. Is this the cause of so much anger? Must be. Corruption comes to the daylight and anyone paying attention can now see it!
Thank you. To the others on this subject, it doesn’t matter one bit if the vote was binding or non binding, optics are what counts and someone please tell me the last time 129 Democrats voted against their President?
Again, what is the point of retaking anything if half of your team is against your objective?
I am not insulting you, but this paragon of the punditocracy who has taken his eye off the ball - the flow of graft through the deep state machinery in Washington DC. It’s the rat’s nest of connected folks who are eating out the heart of the constitution. You will fix nothing until you understand that is at the core of everything going on in DC right now.
You want to send a message to Washington. I am happy to so - please consider making an online contribution using the form I have provided below for my private registered public education LLC of which I am the grossly overpaid president - sucker.
The DC business model of “War for Fun and Profit” is something the vampires in Congress do not want to give up. They don’t give a shit for America.
OMG where have you been? How many years did we have the House and the Senate and how many of the things that you want done were accomplished? Answer: ZERO.
What makes you think anything will change ?
It’s posts like this that make me hopeful. People are starting to get it. DC is a viper pit.
Cheney is no surprise, but CRENSHAW? And SCHWEIKERT????? Very disappointing.
All of them. The MIC is carefully in every single congressional district.
Either lead, follow, or get out of the way. So far you take the "get in the way" position and its annoying.
Senate will probably do the same and there, the names are better known. I saw some of the House vote on Cspan.
The fact that Turkish artillery bracketed US positions as a warning should indicate that they were not concerned with US casualties if they intervened. The chance for the President to have to meet body bags returning if the Turks, or Kurds caught our troops in a misfire or intentional skirmish, plus the fact that the Russians were right on hand in place to take over the US positions should be troubling.
I am sure the hue and cry from these same so called Republican congresscritters would have been long and loud had one life been lost as the CIC ordered troops to stand their ground as a massive force pushed their way.
This vote was intended to indicate what the sentiment about supporting Kurds was but not about supporting deepening involvement in Syria which is how its being spun to make appear an anti Trump move.
True. Did they think they were going to get praised by the GOP roots? GOP always siding with the Democrats no matter how vicious they are!
Follow the kickback$.
So many corrupt pols...so little time. What jerks. They want Americans to die...but no one in their immediate and extended families. Losers.
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