Posted on 05/30/2019 4:44:38 AM PDT by kathsua
The people who talk about obstruction of justice in Robert Mueller's investigation appear unaware that in the United States the prosecution can be guilty of obstruction of justice.
Most people don't understand that the Bill of Rights provisions regulating law enforcement were added to the Constitution to prevent corrupt law enforcement agencies from misusing the criminal justice system to harass political activists. One of the worst abuses in British legal history was the "Star Chamber" proceeding which allowed the use of secret unsubstantiated allegations against the accused, especially political activists.
The involvement of British intelligence agent Christopher Steele in the investigation in effect makes it a form of Star Chamber proceeding. I know he says he's retired, but think about it. Obviously, if he's on a "secret mission" for the British government, he's not going to say "I'm on a secret mission to discredit Donald Trump." He's going to say "I'm retired." I have enough respect for Britain's MI6 to believe that it can arrange for agents on secret assignments to appear to have "jobs" that have no connection to the British government.
American courts need to know how information is obtained, Agents like Steele need to keep some information and sources of information secret. Courts need to know the truth. Agents must be able to lie convincingly such as when the British overstated the status of Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Regardless of whether or not Steele prepared the Trump dossier on assignment for his government, the dossier appears to be the type of propaganda piece an agent might prepare for his government. It's not important whether Steele's document caused the Mueller investigation or merely encouraged it. What is important is that allowing a foreign agent to encourage a criminal investigation of an American politician allows other countries to meddle in our politics by providing evidence to destroy politicians they don't like.
Consider a hypothetical situation that could have occurred before the 2016 election. A country wishing to hurt Hillary Clinton might have secretly provided incriminating emails to Wikileaks. Any country that has Hillary emails won't want our government to know it has emails with information about American procedures, personnel and goals so emails would have to be distributed secretly. What if such emails indicated Hillary had worked out a deal with Britain to have Americans stay in Benghazi to protect equipment the British left behind when a terrorist attack caused them to evacuate the area in exchange for something like a contribution to the Clinton Foundation or unspecified help if Hillary ran for president? The emails could not have been used to start a criminal investigation because government could not have verified that the documents were authentic unaltered emails which had been obtained in accordance with American laws.
Now that I think about it, if Russia had been really anxious to elect Trump wouldn't it have tried to secretly distribute real or fake Clinton emails?
Self-serving cronies Mueller and Comey pulling the same tricks:
<><> abusing their govt positions
<><> undermining our institutions
<><> in it for their own vanity and partisan wishes
<><> saving (Hillary); tarnishing (Trump)
<><> pumping themselves as straight-shooting paragons of virtue.
In sum:
Deep State Clinton investigation: We have conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, but we dont believe she intended to."
Deep State Trump investigation: We cant find any conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, but were certain he intended to.
Yes!
When they can pretend that is Justice we can pretend they are Americans.
People, don’t all yet realize that the wonderful thugs over on the. Bolsheviks side of the parties line don’t commit crimes??? Don’t we yet understand that they get the free privilege to break laws, commit offenses, lie, cheat, rape the system, perform political dirty tricks, whine, moan, groan, cry, sob or slob, which ever fits. We know that THEY get to play by different rules and it is ONLY OUR SIDE that has to follow ANY type of laws or rules.
Bottom line: Mueller and his lefty thugs couldn't find, or manufacture, ANY evidence, but they still want The President to be impeached.
Typical Liberal mentality
This is where decades of ‘situational ethics’ leaves you.
All these Liberal players are steeped in that mindset... I can have it as many different ways as I can articulate.
No one challenges them
No one reminds them of the actual LAWS
Nice deconstruction.
Heh——good one.
Something big must be bothering Mueller. Didn’t he do enough damage to the country already?
Until some of the actors start going to jail, I am a bit tired of hearing about this.
Honest person doesn’t seem to have much of a chance, does he? I think what most of America is waiting to see is arrests, trials, & convictions for certain people & they know who they are. For those not quite guilty of capital punishment, maybe a prison term, heavy fines,& permanent exclusion from any public service would suffice ....and make sure it is well publicized.
He acted like he had a gun to his head during his press conference yesterday. Not that he wasn’t a willing participant, but it seemed like more than that. He was nervous and hesitant. Plus, it was like the statement was written FOR him rather than BY him. And they made sure to get the headline that they needed...
Bottom line: Mueller and his lefty thugs couldn’t find, or manufacture, ANY evidence, but they still want The President to be impeached.
Fact. Another inconvenient fact is that they DID NOT fully investigate foreign interference in our election as was their charge because they ignored the origins of this, which came from foreign sources!
On top of that, they did not attempt to find exculpatory information nor did they include it in their report as the “fact finders.”
Congress is left with this article of impeachment..... “Orange man was mad and thought (yes, thought in his mind) about firing Mueller.” Trump himself is “obstruction” to them not because he violated the law, but because he exist.
I hope Trump has lost whatever bit of reluctance he had to reveal all because they hate him and will not work with him. Period. I think he did not understand this because it was illogical, but the first week when he refused to ask for a special counsel or further explore the HRC case they took it for a sign of weakness. That is all they know.
Thanks kathsua.
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