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How Desert Storm Destroyed the US Military
US Defense Watch ^ | April 21, 2017 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 04/21/2017 9:25:02 PM PDT by pboyington

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1 posted on 04/21/2017 9:25:02 PM PDT by pboyington
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pretty good write up...

the perfumed princes rang true....many of them a bunch of preppies with out true leadership skills.

2 posted on 04/21/2017 9:33:47 PM PDT by cherry
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Pretty good piece.


3 posted on 04/21/2017 9:39:50 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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Two perfumed princes(s) pop to mind immediately.
Eric Shinseki and Wesley Clark.


4 posted on 04/21/2017 9:40:01 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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There appear to be parts of the U.S. military that are still in fighting shape. Individual unit successes in Afghanistan would point to that. OTOH, the broader rot of PC culture has taken a toll. The Navy patrol boat surrender to the Iranians would seem to demonstrate aspects of that decay.


5 posted on 04/21/2017 9:40:38 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Countries without Islamic immigration are countries without Islamic terrorism.)
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Bump....


6 posted on 04/21/2017 9:44:46 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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I don’t see where it’s the war’s fault at all or the handling of the press.

Elections have consequences.


7 posted on 04/21/2017 9:44:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I don’t see where it’s the war’s fault at all or the handling of the press.

Elections have consequences.


8 posted on 04/21/2017 9:44:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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“The warrior culture was buried and a new culture was reborn that resembles corporate America, not the US military of yesteryear.”

One look at every single one of our modern Generals confirms this, Mattis included.


9 posted on 04/21/2017 9:47:48 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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I’m at Desert Shield Desert Storm veteran. There is a huge difference between open desert tank warfare and today’s fight. We can win the fight against Islam, but only if we are able to name the enemy and give it no quarter. In many ways today’s fight is much more difficult. As for the changes in the military that is indicative of general social moral decay.


10 posted on 04/21/2017 9:47:56 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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It’s the media’s army, to sell the media’s advertiser’s products.

Good post. Definitely BFL.


11 posted on 04/21/2017 9:53:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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nobody beats the U.S. in a conventional war and Saddam tried to fight a conventional war.

Not so much conventional wars going on anymore and ROEs became screwed up for the current wars.

also,
almost as soon as desert storm was over, Cheney & Powell started dismantling the military. It was ripe for a foo-foo take over.


12 posted on 04/21/2017 9:57:04 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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“I don’t see where it’s the war’s fault at all or the handling of the press.”

I agree with that mostly, though I did hear people opine that Desert Storm was pushbutton and war was not like the old days. But mostly it was our decision makers in Government with no backbone.
The vaunted Dick Cheney piled on early to destroy careers after Tailhook. I think his lesbo daughter influenced him.

But number ONE cause, THE cause, was a year later when Bill Clinton was elected and He and Hillary flooded the white house and DOD with radicals on a mission. Anyone remember that comment at the first Clinton inauguration? A Clintonista was offended at a military flyby afterwards.
They were told, “Hey, those planes belong to US now”.
They meant it.


13 posted on 04/21/2017 9:57:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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for later


14 posted on 04/21/2017 10:18:38 PM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: DesertRhino

“The warrior culture was buried and a new culture was reborn that resembles corporate America, not the US military of yesteryear.”
One look at every single one of our modern Generals confirms this, Mattis included


General Norman Schwarzkopf saw it coming and retired. He turned down the US Army Chief of Staff position and wanted no part of it. He was one of our last, real fighting generals.

You are correct...Mattis is more of an intellectual and politician than warrior.


15 posted on 04/21/2017 10:20:44 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: DesertRhino

You are right on.

I no longer like or respect Dick Cheney or any of the Bush family.


16 posted on 04/21/2017 10:24:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: Salvavida

Thanks for your service and sacrifice.


17 posted on 04/21/2017 10:25:22 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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*** “I’m at Desert Shield Desert Storm veteran. There is a huge difference between open desert tank warfare and today’s fight. We can win the fight against Islam, but only if we are able to name the enemy and give it no quarter. In many ways today’s fight is much more difficult. As for the changes in the military that is indicative of general social moral decay ‘ ***

Ditto

Bump


18 posted on 04/21/2017 10:25:23 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (They used to get away with it. Not anymore.)
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>>Mattis also needs to get rid of the perfumed princes, and the feckless duds who have infested the senior ranks of the armed forces.

I would rather have a sergeant with guts running a division than a two star coward who is more worried about his pension and future job on cable news than the mission and the troops.<<

Needed to be resaid


19 posted on 04/21/2017 10:46:47 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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Colin Powell should have been kicked out of the Army for his involvement in the My Lai massacre and it’s subsequent cover-up in Vietnam. He lied to the Americal Division commanding General as his G-2 when he could easily have gotten on a helicopter and witnessed first hand what went on down there. But he stayed in his air conditioned hooch and wrote one of the most disgusting, lying reports in American military history to that point just glossing over, and essentially writing a fictitious account of what had really gone on there.

Ptuh on Colin Powell! Forever.


20 posted on 04/21/2017 11:10:44 PM PDT by onedoug
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