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How Desert Storm Destroyed the US Military
US Defense Watch ^ | April 21, 2017 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 04/21/2017 9:25:02 PM PDT by pboyington

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To: Salvavida
I’m at Desert Shield Desert Storm veteran. There is a huge difference between open desert tank warfare and today’s fight.

We can win the fight against Islam, but only if we are able to name the enemy and give it no quarter.

In many ways today’s fight is much more difficult. As for the changes in the military that is indicative of general social moral decay.

We should start with bombing all of the mosques.

61 posted on 04/22/2017 7:01:46 AM PDT by Bon mots (Laughing at liberal tears!)
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To: pboyington

And how Amendment XVII has destroyed America.


62 posted on 04/22/2017 7:20:05 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: pboyington

Later


63 posted on 04/22/2017 7:26:05 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (This time I am Deplorable)
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To: jazminerose

I’m a little heartbroken to have to let go of Cheney.


Me, too.


64 posted on 04/22/2017 7:32:15 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: Salvavida

I am also a veteran of that war and cannot agree more. We had it easy, all we had to worry about was the Iraqis shooting at us and we had the green light to shoot back.

That changed in 1992 with a new president. Suddenly the right to shoot at an enemy was withdrawn, to emphasize the point Marine guards in active combat areas were ordered to stand post with empty chambers. If you did end up firing your weapon, you ran the risk of prison time, a senior enlisted Marine in our unit got sentenced to 20 years in prison for protecting himself.

I can only imagine that things got worse under Obama.


65 posted on 04/22/2017 8:14:13 AM PDT by dangerdoc (disgruntled)
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To: pboyington

ping to later


66 posted on 04/22/2017 8:32:09 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great- -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Uncle Sam 911

They should go through the records and find the guys that were fired or got out early because they didn’t want to be a part of it.


67 posted on 04/22/2017 9:46:26 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

Many good officers should be brought back to turn the military back to war fighting and not left wing experiments.


68 posted on 04/22/2017 10:38:59 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: SakoL61R

I forgot about the Harvard Graphics!


69 posted on 04/22/2017 11:43:31 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: PGalt

Garryowen!


70 posted on 04/22/2017 11:46:11 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: sauropod

I used to write for Hack. It is certainly his phrase and a good one!


71 posted on 04/22/2017 11:47:29 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: Uncle Sam 911

read about AF general Michael Keltz, s canned for telling a junior officer he was drunker than 10000 Injuns. Unreal.

https://www.rt.com/usa/255621-general-resigns-indians-drunken/


72 posted on 04/22/2017 11:50:44 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: laplata

Back around 2001-2002 (IIRC) I had somebody telling me the positives of Rummy getting rid of aircraft carriers (proposed). I basically said it was idiotic. Then was told how smart he was.


73 posted on 04/22/2017 1:39:22 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: onedoug

I just learned something new today about Colon Bowell.


74 posted on 04/22/2017 1:42:49 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: dangerdoc

yes it did, thanks to Petraeus and assisted by...Mattis. I wish I knew who wrote what. This is a letter that was written by an Army commander in 2010 but only a little has changed.

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/images/pdf/secarmy_redacted-redux.pdf

original article here:

Rules of Engagement getting Our soldiers killed at alarming rate [during surge]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/rules-of-engagement-getting-our-soldiers-killed-at-alarming-rate/


75 posted on 04/22/2017 2:03:34 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: SaveFerris

In my book Rummy is in the same category as Cheney.


76 posted on 04/22/2017 2:22:45 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: Uncle Sam 911

Here’s one. Found his article while researching the ROE (trying to get up to date).

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3546466/posts?page=1


77 posted on 04/22/2017 5:12:48 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: pboyington
In 44 days, the largest military force assembled by the US and its allies since Normandy destroyed the world’s fourth largest army...wow - it's a wonder Shiite Iran didn't invade predominantly Shiitte Iraq to depose minority Sunni dictator Saddam before we did.....
78 posted on 04/22/2017 9:05:15 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: pboyington
In my estimation, the American military peaked in the Gulf War.

I am thinking (and currently undecided about) whether or not Powell's idea to stop before taking out Sadaam was a good thing, knowing what happened after we took him out in 2003, but I think things were different then.

79 posted on 04/22/2017 11:41:45 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (It appears that we no longer wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin...)
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To: DannyTN

‘Destroyed’ — what an overstatement.

Victory is the remedy.

Petraeus did a lot more than just muster more forces. He studied three or so of the best counter-insurgency successes in Vietnam — basically an emphasis on protecting the villagers and driving wedges by paying off insurgents to fight each other.

But the reason why it took so long to find a decent strategist is the promotion system and the training of officers. Not enough mental flexibility for one thing, something General Marshall emphasized as best he could. And too much emphasis on ‘perfect records’ as the gateway to promotion.


80 posted on 04/26/2017 8:42:11 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ever since Civil War, DNC = terrorists: KKK, black panthers; muslim refugees, BLM ...)
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