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How Desert Storm Destroyed the US Military
US Defense Watch ^ | April 21, 2017 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 04/21/2017 9:25:02 PM PDT by pboyington

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To: DesertRhino

Yep, we needed and still need the Stormin Norman model, but alas are stuck with the Colin Powell model. Sad, but true.


21 posted on 04/21/2017 11:24:57 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: pboyington

Well, I was impressed by that article.............


22 posted on 04/21/2017 11:35:27 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: pboyington

Good article, thank you for posting.


23 posted on 04/21/2017 11:59:22 PM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: laplata

I’m a little heartbroken to have to let go of Cheney.


24 posted on 04/22/2017 12:02:16 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: pboyington
per the article: "The ghosts of Vietnam were vanquished … "

If the ghosts were vanquished, it was only momentarily. Since then we have been back to fighting wars the same have-arsed stupid way.

The turd world people can only be reached by monumental power and brutality. It is all those illiterate inbreds can understand. Any quarter on our part is considered a sign of weakness. The turd worlder adversary needs to be beaten down to a limp, bloody, broken pulp. Their countries need to be reduced to rubble and desolation.

Even educated semi-rational WWII opponents like the Germans and Japanese could only understand one way. They were beyond negotiation. Then why should be believe that our current enemies will negotiate? Does anyone really think you can negotiate with lying camel trading, sheep humping taqiyya speaking illiterates?

We shouldn't even be there in the first place, but if so, then it has to be with a fanatical determination to destroy our enemy.

25 posted on 04/22/2017 12:14:42 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (I don't see a possum.)
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To: pboyington

A good place to start is to STOP the redesign of nuclear submarines to accommodate women.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3545482/posts


26 posted on 04/22/2017 12:38:26 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: pboyington

Bump


27 posted on 04/22/2017 12:46:15 AM PDT by Ruger1099
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To: jazminerose
I’m a little heartbroken to have to let go of Cheney.

Cheney represents that blithe old curmudgeon we associated with sage advice and the lack of thought filtering we've all been conditioned to eschew. You don't have to stop liking the man for his personality, but his views are anathema to conservatism.

28 posted on 04/22/2017 1:00:58 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: DesertRhino
Comment made by actor Ron Silver (January 20, 1993).. (but to be fair, supported Bush after 9/11)
there were fighter jets flying overhead in honour of the new President, and Silver was initially bothered by this until he thought to himself that the jets were “our planes now.” 

29 posted on 04/22/2017 1:05:35 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: pboyington

Many servicemen would say PowerPoint destroyed out military but not as early as ‘91.

This is my PowerPoint. There are many like it but mine is 97.

My PowerPoint is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I  master my life.

     My PowerPoint without me is useless. Without my PowerPoint, I am  useless.

     I must format my slides true. I must brief them better than the other staff sections who are trying to out brief me.

     I must brief the impact on the CINC before he asks me.  I will.

My PowerPoint and myself know that what counts in this war is not the information. We know that it is the number of slides, the colors of the highlights, and the format of the  bullets that counts.

     My PowerPoint is human, even as I, because it is my life.  Thus I will learn it as a brother.  I will learn its weaknesses, its

strengths, its fonts, its accessories, its formats, and its colors.

     I will keep my PowerPoint slides current and ready to brief.  We will  become part of each other.  We will…

     Before God I swear this creed. My PowerPoint and myself are defenders of my country. We are the masters of our subject.  We are the saviors of my career.

     So be it, until victory is America’s and there is no enemy, but peace (and the next exercise)!


30 posted on 04/22/2017 1:44:54 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: pboyington

What an excellent article. I hope it’s read far and wide at DoD and most importantly, by Mattis.

Truly, by now I’d hoped and expected he would have put a stop to the pc crap.


31 posted on 04/22/2017 2:08:19 AM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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Many are waiting for Mad Dog Mattis to stick a pike in the heart of the military’s social engineering forever.

We are still waiting…

Mattis isn't going to roll back the social energy changes that Obama brought to the military because the top brass doesn't want him to.

32 posted on 04/22/2017 2:20:50 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: pboyington
Many are waiting for Mad Dog Mattis to stick a pike in the heart of the military’s social engineering forever.

We are still waiting…

Mattis isn't going to roll back the social changes that Obama brought to the military because the top brass doesn't want him to.

33 posted on 04/22/2017 2:21:07 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: pboyington

The bottom line result is the Middle East is a disaster.


34 posted on 04/22/2017 2:33:36 AM PDT by TheNext (Democrat Supremists)
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To: TheNext

For about 20 years, we’ve been fighting people who live in caves. We just dropped a huge bomb on their tunnels. Killed over 100 of ‘em!!!!

But, in about 20 years of fighting, we haven’t quite managed to win.

If we ever had to fight an industrialized country, I think we’d do a lot worse than many think.


35 posted on 04/22/2017 2:51:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: DannyTN
There is a marvelous anecdote probably apocryphal but anyway revealing when staffers of Bill Clinton observed a flyby at the new president's inauguration. The first staffer expressed disgust at the military display. "It is is our Air Force now" reminded another staffer.

The left regards the armed forces much the way they regard the education system, as an ideal Skinner Box within which to condition subjects to their enlightened fundamental transformation. The military is a ready Skinner Box because it is a top-down organization which can impose a remarkable degree of conformity merely by issuing an order. If you want to make society accept gays, have cost free sex, elevate the status of women, or simply bestow marvelous new norms on society, the military offers an instant petri dish if you can get control of it.

No worries on the left that they will be corrupting or weakening an institution vital to national security, the left as a fundamental thesis does not believe in American national security, quite the contrary it believes that American power is an evil which should be controlled. Enervate the military and diminish America, the leftist in a stroke has achieved a win-win.

In my view, it does not matter whether the left was exposed to gory aspects of combat in Desert Storm or not, they were after all exposed to the gritty realities of combat in The Second Gulf War and it did not deter their push to exploit the military to advance their social engineering. It might have disposed the greater society to opposition to women in combat but we must never make the mistake of believing that leftists shrink from sacrificing their own useful idiots when it might advance their agenda.

It is unreasonable to expect Secretary of Defense Mattis to accomplish what the public culture has not been conditioned to accept, witness the decapitation of Bill O'Reilly or the madness at the University of Virginia. Yes, the military is a top-down organization but is unreasonable to expect it to deviate from the cultural momentum now favoring the women's movement. The battle must be won the way the left won it, by conditioning the culture through other institutions such as academia and the media. That is how they gain all their victories. Even though it appears they are imposing top-down imperatives when, for example, the Supreme Court requires the states to sanctify homosexual marriage, the reality is they had won that court case long before the court granted certiorari.

You want to save the military? Reform academia, restructure media.

Do you want to save the justice system?

Contrary to the situation beheld by the Clinton staffers, it is our military now but who owns the drivers of culture?


36 posted on 04/22/2017 2:51:54 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Theophilus

US Army, ‘83-’10.

Laffin’ at the curse of PowerPoint! Your musings gave me a laugh.
Lest we forget the real culprit that started it all, though.
Harvard Graphics. Honk if you remember....

Just one of those old retired guys now.


37 posted on 04/22/2017 3:23:37 AM PDT by SakoL61R
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To: cherry

“perfumed princes”

Gen. Weasley Clark


38 posted on 04/22/2017 4:12:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: cherry

That’s a phrase David Hackworth used.


39 posted on 04/22/2017 4:15:34 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: DesertRhino

I think that was Ron Silver


40 posted on 04/22/2017 4:19:17 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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