Skip to comments.Making crude oil out of thin air?
Posted on 01/09/2014 3:15:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
There is big news coming out of the Middle East that one of the hottest commodities can be made out of the earths two most common elements, carbon dioxide and hydrogen.
Energy could see a substantial progression of discovery thanks to a group of researchers at Ben-Gurion University (BGU) of the Negev in Israel. The group reports that they have pioneered a process that converts carbon dioxide and hydrogen gas into a renewable alternative for crude oil.
The alternative has been dubbed green feed crude oil. This innovative idea was made possible by the use of nanomaterials which reduces the amount of energy in the catalytic process to make the oil.
If the green feed crude experiment proves to be successful, the liquid fuels made from carbon dioxide and hydrogen could be in the pipeline as soon as five years from now, barring no technological difficulties.
Green feed crude will ultimately change the commoditys transportation process, reduce emission of air pollutants into the environment and revolutionize the oil market across the globe.
The oil can be refined into a renewable liquid fuel by using existing technologies and transported using existing infrastructure channels to fueling stations.
Prof. Moti Hershkowitz, Israel Cohen chair in chemical engineering and the vice president and dean of research and development at BGU, recently stated that they are able to use zero-cost resources (carbon dioxide, water, and energy from the sun) and combine them to get real fuels.
BGU has filed the patents and we are ready to demonstrate and commercialize it, Hershkowitz said. Ethanol (alcohol), biodiesel and/or blends of these fuels with conventional fuels are far from ideal, he explained. There is a pressing need for a game-changing approach to produce alternative, drop-in, liquid transportation fuels by sustainable, technologically viable and environmentally acceptable emissions processes from abundant, low-cost, renewable materials.
BGU is no stranger to transforming the worlds energy sector. Doron Krakow, executive vice president of BGU released a statement saying, Ben-Gurion Universitys Blechner Center has been at the forefront of alternative fuel research and development, working with major American oil and automotive companies for more than 20 years.
Wow. The ramifications are mind boggling.
If this works out, the Global Warming/Climate Change alarmists will have to find a new scam. After all, such a fuel cannot put any additional carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than its creation took out.
If this is true the waste product should be nothing but pure oxygen. (CO2 + 2H20)>>(CH4+202
.. . . barring no technological difficulties.
Gonna need a LOT of energy to do this...
However LENR or Thorium or even Zero Point or even Singularity energy may make this feasible so that the image of the future still includes gasoline powered vehicles...
Leave it to the Israelis to put the Arabs out of business.
Which is good because we already have the auto factories, the gas stations, the tanker trucks, etc.
Out of Israel. Not palestine. Not saudi arabia. Not iran. Not Germany. Not Britain. Not France. Not Russia or China or India. Not even the USA. Not anywhere else in the world. Israel. Again.
Another reason why Israel MUST be destroyed./s
It would be deliciously ironic if Israel defeated its enemies with oil.
How many barrels of oil will be needed to make the electricity to run this process to generate one barrel oil oil?
“Gonna need a LOT of energy to do this...”
True...but it’s hard to find a more compact and portable source of power than liquid fuels.
Nuclear power is a primary source in Israel.
But your point is well-taken, stored energy must come from somewhere.
You’re always an optimist!
Would solar energy be enough to power one of these facilities, especially out in a desert with lots of sunshine?
CO2 and H2O are at a low energy state (low energy of formation) compared to gasoline. That’s why energy is released when gasoline burns.
To form gasoline from CO2 and H2O, you have to put the same amount of energy in as you get back when you burn the gasoline, PLUS all of the energy of inefficiencies of the process used to make the gasoline.
In other words, you will have to put in considerably more energy into the process than you will get out when you burn the gasoline.
Obviously, that energy cannot come from oil (otherwise, you would just refine the oil to gasoline). So, it has to come from other sources, such as nuclear or renewable, or maybe even coal (oops, the EPA won’t let us use coal). The only reason to make gasoline this way is that we have the infrastructure (distribution system and vehicles) that uses gasoline. But the inefficiencies of making gasoline by this method are not negligible.
And I love the caveat: “barring no technological difficulties.” One of the free things in life when you are developing a new process is “technological difficulties.”
I know! Let's use ethanol!
Gosh! if it is that simple why did it take them so long to come up with a break through idea that just doesn’t work. and everyone getting excited about a really stupid idea of air, water, and more g=d damned energy than you can shake a stick at, all mixed together in a secret process, just to say, well, it just doesn’t work.
I didn’t say the process doesn’t work. I said it requires energy, it doesn’t create energy.
As is well known, Japan suffered a severe oil shortage during WWII. Prime Minister/General Tojo once asked aviation engineers why they couldn’t design an airplane engine that burned air instead of gasoline. Tojo was viewed in most circles as a blockhead, and the engineers were left speechless. Maybe he was just ahead of his time?
Thinking about the impact on the economies of most of the Arab world if the Israelis really figure out how to make fuel out of air.
shouldn’t have said anything until it was ready to ship
Governor Christie might be a big (and we ARE talking LARGE) gasbag, but this fool is a bona fide LIAR.
Why would a major Israeli university try to scam everyone?
How soon before the Religion of Gaea and Climate protest that we don't have enough CO2 to maintain the atmosphere heat cycle?
How far away is actual cold fusion?
That will really get the panties in a knot.
I can only hope for the truth.
Dam Jews ! And that horrible country Israel. Its no wonder Iran wants to wipe Israel and Jews off the map.
AM ISRAEL CHAI.
A better link.
Synthesizing liquid fuels could be a good application for wind and solar energy sources once they’re finally pulled off the grid in favor of more economically sound energy producers.
I have no idea. Do you?
By the way, I wasn't on this Israeli university thread.
Huh? I was answering your post above. The technique came out of Ben Gurion University in Israel.
Sorry, I haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about. That's okay. That was YESTERDAY, 1000 years ago on the FR!
This (and CO2 sequestration) gets touted every once in a while, along with biomass conversion into fuels, and algae that produces hydrogen instead of sugars. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
The reactions take place at a maximum of 300 degrees C
It will be suitable for production of liquid hydrocarbon fuel from the waste heat at a nuclear power plant.
Fuel from air. This will revolutionize the fuel business. Ignore my previous post to the contrary. I suggest you put all of your savings into this process.
No, but I would put them in nuclear energy. ;-)
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