Skip to comments.We’re Going Into the Greatest Depression: (shortened)
Posted on 06/28/2013 7:26:10 PM PDT by Kartographer
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That's a self generated hope because it is not what the Bible says. Isaiah, Daniel, and Revelation all tell us the world will get much, much, much worse.
World wide totalitarianism is coming, and we all can now visibility see it's framework under construction: gun data bases, health care controlled by the government, food supply controlled by government, NSA Big Brother watching our book purchases, on-line viewing, e-mails, and phone calls, cameras everywhere, drones in the sky with cameras, and 1st, 2nd, 4th Amendment rights dead or dying a slow death.
The DOMA decision by the "supreme" court "justices" will usher in swift and brutal persecution of Christians, because it is that group that will refuse to bow. They will be charged with "discrimination" and "hate speech" and pastors and believers harassed and jailed.
Revelation tells us of coming plagues, famine, war, torture, and incredible outbreaks of calamity in nature (drought, earthquakes, increased heat of the sun, poisoned water supply, the list goes on).
It also warns that no one who is still around on the earth will be able to escape these trials. No one.
"Prepping" is never bad advice in terms of stocking food, water, medicine, etc. But it is no substitute for prepping one's soul before Jesus Christ.
Exactly...I see people looking for some 'great revival', but there is nothing in the Scriptures about such an event.
That is the most important 'prepper' advice of all.
That is excellent advice. In my previous post, I noted that prepping was sound advice, but didn't associate my thoughts with the verse you quoted - thanks.
It is sound to take precautions, and to take care of your family.
I have been through 3 hurricanes in the last 7 years, and believe me, I know that being prepared is crucial.
I have to remind myself to include "prepping" for His arrival and prepping my soul.
"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."
I though about that verse recently. Any sin that I have recently committed, and not immediately acknowledged and repented of, gnaws at me. As I see the world spinning out of control around me, I am constantly reminded that I need to keep close to Him.
So true - there is a revival in the sense that in the middle of the Tribulation, many, many people in the world FINALLY turn to God. But why would people who are now given God's lifeboat of mercy wait for those days?
I am convinced that God allows such a horrible, terrible time on the earth to come precisely because He knows it is the last (and only) way to convince many of the stiff necked peoples of the world to finally come to Christ.
The US is no longer a Christian nation. Those who are Christians are now paratroopers behind enemy lines.
I got into a debate with a lesbian recently, and her first attack on me was to say "I AM a Christian!" She then proceeded to defend her behavior with her "wife", to viciously castigate the Bible for 1 Tim. 2:12-13, and then to deny all of Scripture as made up myths, stories, legends, and lies.
I didn’t think you would last long here. Thanks to Clint N. Suhks
“You pro homosexual agenda born that way cheerleaders dont belong here.”
Ursula the Viking Kitten has made her appearance on that other thread. She didn’t think to demean a prepper thread with the gore of her kill.
So many questions, so little time...
My husband agrees.
One concern I have is that the Resident and/or pbtb might have already made a deal to give up our oil fields and resources to our creditors. We won’t own them. Perhaps we don’t own them even now.
I’d like to clarify my previous post. Where I said, “We won’t own them.” I should not have made it as a pronouncement. I should have stated that in the scenario where such a deal with ptb had been made with creditors, we would not own the resources.
I’m praying of course,that all of this will not take place. However, the directive to get right with the Lord is the prevailing best advice available.
(LOL! Just realized I did a typo in my previous post - “pbtb” should have been “ptb” = powers that be -LOL! need more morning wake up chemicals!)
Mid 2015 seems to be the consensus of many. Who knows. We’re living on borrowed time.
If you want to know what will happen generally speaking in the future you can extract this from history, as history always repeats it's self.
Civilizations rise and fall....always, like a perpetual clock. We are not the exception to the rule.
So yes, I believe the phoenix always rises from the ashes only to die later, as predicted. The only exception that I can see to this rule is a scenario where the planet is actually destroyed by a event strong enough to do so. We can predict that will happen when the milky way collides with another galaxy or it could be sooner with a collision between earth and another chunk of rock big enough to do serious damage. But we can't predict when this will happen.
However history tells us something we can predict and that is the continual demise of sequential civilizations for as long as recovery is possible.
What we are seeing today is nothing more than the downhill slide of another one biting the dust.
We must agree to disagree. The Bible contains the most accurate prophecy in history that has been already fulfilled, but 2/3rds of the prophecy is does predict has not yet come true. It will come true.
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about the national debit out of control growth?
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about the FED’s money printing?
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about the out of control muni debts with state and local debit of of control and beyond any solution accept bankruptcies which will slaughter those holding muni bonds.
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about the the growing amount fraud and racketeering being done by many of our biggest financial entities? Including their embedment in most government agencies that are suppose to be a watch dog for them.
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about nearly 50 million Americans on food stamps, 100 million on welfare, and no economic progress in sight, it wont be long before the world as we have come to know it changes drastically?
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about that we are going on years now since the economy has even been able to create more jobs per month than people that are entering the workforce, much less create jobs for those who lost theirs. And that the largest part of the jobs being created are low level entry jobs or part time and that may business right now are turn what were full time jobs with befits into part time jobs with none due to Obamacare.
Speaking of Obamacare is it fear or common sense to be concern about the fact that already hard pressed are about to be hit with astronomical increasing in their medical insurance premiums?
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about who’s going to buy our debt now that both China and Japan are sliding?
Is it fear or common sense to be concern about the fact that real wages are slide to rates below the 1950’s?
Do you think that women are earning less today than they earned in the 1950’s?!
I think I have no idea if women are, but I do believe we all are.
Face it other than the oil patch you keep yammering about there isn’t any area of the economy that is doing well. Most are down, threading water, or doing mediocre at best. And when the new taxes kick in and the FED tappers it will leave no gas for the engine.
You don’t get out much, then.
The highways are packed because people are buying cars because they are employed. That’s why you are kvetching about traffic being bad.
Restaurants are packed because people are employed.
Flights are packed because employed people are traveling to jobs and vacations.
The oil patch can’t hire people fast enough.
Web developers can’t be hired fast enough.
Phone app developers can’t be hired fast enough.
DNA programmers can’t be hired fast enough...the entire medical research field is going gang-busters!
3D printers. Electric cars. Cloud Computing and Data Storage. Web 3.0.
The U.S. is building a new LNG *export* port because we are producing so much natural gas.
Crowdsourcing. New books and movies are being crowdsourced by sites like Kickstarter.com.
Everyone who wants to work has a job.
The *only* able-bodied people who are unemployed are those who are too spoiled to move or change fields.
Not sure where you live....but highways are not packed here...You could not hit someone with a cannon in the shopping centers, and I see very little business activity change from what it was last year...
Sure there are some buying new cars but that is a seasonal thing..But what I do see a lot of is inflation....rents, food, utilities.....
This is showing up as profits for some public companies, however the euphoria will not last...
Your FR profile says USA. Well, the highways are packed in the USA.
I am in Arkansas...I just got back from a road trip to Alabama and Georgia.....I actually saw more traffic two years ago...
Here’s a clip from that article that pretty much explains any increased hiring nationwide...
“Service sector gains were primarily responsible for the improving employment picture except in Fort Smith where service growth......”
The growth is largely in the service sector that includes hotels, motels, restaurants and entertainment.....which is where are the hiring is...
Not because of increased business activity, but because of Obama Care. They are reducing the hours of all their full timers and hiring additional people to make up the loss...This way they keep the hours worked at 30 or less, exempting them from some of the regulations...
Housing sales of older homes have increased, but 90% of the increase is not first time or second time home buyers. It’s investors....
As far as I am concerned the economy is actually flat....has been flat...and will continue to be flat...with few exceptions...
It takes special blinders to see a negative in an "improving employment picture."
Congrats! Don't you dare let data get in the way of how you want to see the world!
Go tell people that the economy is lousy regardless!
I do because it is....
What we have had for the last 4 years is very close but not nearly as good as the Cater years when the word of the day was how high the “misery index” was.
Other new terms like stagflation were also invented, but you don’t hear any of that today. Not a word......
The fact is, that economic activity today is largely tied to inflation and to cycles that are based on planned obsolescence or simply the replacement of worn out crap.
I admire your positive attitude, but I can tell you frankly that it is not shared by many and it’s not because they are slackers...
Of course it is because they are slackers.
Jobs are plentiful, yet people are so *spoiled* that they won’t move to where the jobs are located.
They have excuses like “...but my Mom lives here, I can’t leave” or drivel such as “I’ve lived here for xx years and I’m not moving, the jobs need to come to me.”
So they want the economy to look bad so that they can blame the economy instead of looking like a slacker. “See, I’d work if a job was here but there aren’t any jobs.”
...but there are thousands of high paying jobs hiring people, even those with no college education.
So the jobs are there and their lies are exposed.
They are slackers.
I get out plenty, but I use my eyes not covered with rose colored glasses.
You repeated comments about dead beats reveals more than you know.
You words are those of the con man: “buddy have I got a deal for you.”
What ever you are selling I ain’t buying.
I’m just selling facts. Too bad that you aren’t buying.
I predict an acquittal and riots, then Holder files Federal charges against Zimmerman for violating Martin's civil rights.
To answer your "Fear or Common Sense" manifesto, I will use the common sense methodical "win in every scenario" approach every time. Tell me with 100% certainty that a two mile wide asteroid is going to hit tomorrow?, then I might talk a little about fear.
The items you listed are true poor economic practices, but those who avoid debt, have diversifying capital, and prepare "wisely" will be okay.
He probably doesn’t get out of his Y2K bunker very often. :)
Plenty of decent jobs here in SE Texas, as long as you are qualified. Again he doesn’t want to be bothered with the facts.
Try selling fertilizer you be great!
Then answer the questions. What does a hypothetical asteroid have to do with the questions I asked? Another flim flam man.
You seem too desperate.
To make a point, because you spout crap that puts fear into people. Flim Flam? So what am I selling numbnuts? You are the flim flam bozo trying to scare people, when all they have to do is carefully and methodically plan their existence if there was an event that triggered harder times. How many people did you "flim flam" into metals before the bubble burst? Seems what you know about the economy and how things work there are pretty limited, so don't confuse people with your lack of knowledge.
You can’t get much wronger. In fact you just proved how little you know. I don’t believe in metals, I don’t have any myself and don’t recommend metals to others. Check my post and not only will you not find such a recommendations you will find statements from me that flat out state I don’t believe in metals. So far you never have answer a straight question and you assumptions have proven false. In fact check around you will find I give away a preparedness manual I put together for free. Profit is not and never has been my motive. Game, set and match.
Go with God and go in peace. I truly wish you and yours well what ever may come. I do what I do because I do wish all well and wish to see as many Children of the Lord make it through, because when we get to the other side we are going to need them.
Thank you, Kartographer.
You are appreciated.
As gunny says, hands outta pockets, head on a swivel, keep yer 5, and watch yer 6.
Copper, lead, brass, precious metals.
So what am I selling numbnuts?
That’s rude and crude and uncalled for.
Those on Kart's ping list very much appreciate what he posts and has to say.
If you don't like it, stay off of the thread.
Thank you so much for your testimony, dear SkyPilot!
Who the hell are you replaying to? I never wrote a freaking post about “metals.”
DON’T DO DRUGS!
It isn’t cynical to suggest you paid the interest amount in the $26k price. Be sure they aren’t losing money on the zero lending rate.
I’m fairly certain you were simply pinged to the thread.
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