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Guns And Ammo Production Maxed Out: “This is a Society Preparing For War”
thedailysheeple.com ^ | 14 February, 2013 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 02/14/2013 6:02:21 PM PST by marktwain

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President Barack Obama is, arguably, the best gun salesman ever. Over 65 million guns have been purchased since the President took office in 2009. FBI background check statistics indicate that, over the last twelve months, Americans purchased a new gun every 1.5 seconds, a figure which suggests there is much more to the recent panic buying than people just stocking up to go hunting or sports shooting.

The following guns and ammo industry report indicates that every major gun and ammunition manufacturer in the country is running at 100% capacity, with many so far behind that they’ve stopped taking new orders altogether.

Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1. Remington-Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Can’t get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly…bottle necked by Bolt carrier’s.

LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity…can’t get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS… ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra’s for reloading purposes… it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we’ll keep you posted…

Many who have exercised their Second Amendment protections are first time buyers concerned with Federal and State gun grabs being spearheaded by politicians who are using the Sandy Hook school shooting as a pretext to restrict access to personal defense rifles, larger capacity magazines, and even ammunition.

But this may only be a part of why there’s so much demand. There are millions of Americans who are genuinely concerned with not just the government taking their guns, but all of their other Constitutionally protected freedoms as well.

We understand what happens in regimes that disarm their people. We’ve seen the democide of the last century, which left hundreds of millions of people dead or displaced when their governments turned on them.

We are determined to prevent it from happening in the land of the free.

Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand.

It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it.

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone.

This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war.

Source: Bob Owens via SteveQuayle.com

With over 300 million firearms in America in the hands of private citizens, the people are sending a loud and clear message to their government.

Back off. Stop encroaching on our personal liberties. Limit yourself to your Constitutionally granted powers and nothing more.

You’re not the only ones that are armed.

Delivered by The Daily Sheeple

Contributed by Mac Slavo of www.SHTFplan.com.

When it hits the fan, don’t say we didn’t warn you. Mac Slavo is the editor of SHTFplan.com, a resource hub for alternative news, contrarian commentary and strategies that you can take to protect yourself from the coming global paradigm shift.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; firearms; guncontrol; manufacturers; secondamendment
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Interesting figures.
1 posted on 02/14/2013 6:02:28 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Just think of all the manpower and hardware it took to get one guy out here in So California, they have little chance of doing it on a scale like we are talking here. winning


2 posted on 02/14/2013 6:13:55 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: marktwain

I read on another site that this story had been at least partially debunked. 300 per day is not very many weapons for a manufacturer as large as S&W. I’m wondering if maybe the author merely slipped a decimal.


3 posted on 02/14/2013 6:14:40 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: marktwain

My greatest regret for 2012 was not picking up a Mosin Nagant M91 when my local guy had crates full of them. Plenty of time, said I. Feh. Foolish.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 6:16:22 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: marktwain

I guess it shouldn’t but this surprises me.

I would have guessed the shortages would go on for a few high demand guns then pretty much be over in a few weeks.

Same for ammo.

This is clearly more intense than when the ban which sunsetted first was being discussed, then passed.


5 posted on 02/14/2013 6:17:18 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: marktwain

While I believe this in principle, has the details been proven to be true? I know S&W’s custom shop can produce several hundred per day and when I visited the factory years ago, they were pushing out thousands so to say they are maxed at 300 per day is unusual. Small shops do that.


6 posted on 02/14/2013 6:21:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: marktwain

Yup


7 posted on 02/14/2013 6:21:22 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: marktwain

Something is up here.

CCI and Federal have the same ammo distributor.

Both Claim they are shipping rimfire ammo.

Oh, the distributor has the DHS contract.

Wholesalers claim they are not getting the shipments.


8 posted on 02/14/2013 6:24:04 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Real Cynic No More

I believe that. 3K per day sounds more reasonable for S&W.


9 posted on 02/14/2013 6:26:45 PM PST by mnehring
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To: hadaclueonce

Shades of Paul Revere


10 posted on 02/14/2013 6:27:45 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The past year and a half I picked up a Mosin or two every gun show after reading how much the other Texas FReepers enjoyed them. Not only were they dirt cheap (as well as the ammo), they were so plentiful it was no loss reconfiguring them.

I am still seeing them around. Go to pawn shops in smaller towns around you.

It is good timing. Archangel is about to release an upgrade kit with new stock and.... wait for it... 10 round detachable magazine. I am going to be first in line for that. (yep, you read that right, detachable magazine for Mosin).


11 posted on 02/14/2013 6:30:13 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Here you go... yes, this is a Mosin.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 6:31:49 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

For what it’s worth, I ordered an AR lower yesterday at

http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-semiauto-ar15-lowers-556rguns-collapsible.shtml

The guy told me it would me ready Saturday. Rguns assembles their guns. It was $285. They do have many uppers, some in stock. They aren’t a name brand, but I can upgrade later. Mainly just wanted one now.

I am not affiliated nor have any interest in their company. Just passing this on for info.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 6:36:12 PM PST by Pit1 (Obama is the pile in the road.)
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To: hadaclueonce

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


14 posted on 02/14/2013 6:45:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: mnehring

Yes but did you notice the supply chain issues. This may be true.


15 posted on 02/14/2013 6:48:46 PM PST by DeWalt
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To: mnehring; Bloody Sam Roberts
My latest scavenge. Hungarian m44. Can't hardly find even basic beater 91/30s anymore. hungarian m44 photo hungarianm44001_zpse2af8472.jpg
16 posted on 02/14/2013 6:51:45 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Real Cynic No More
300 per day is not very many weapons for a manufacturer as large as S&W

Guns aren't built on automobile-style assembly lines. Each part of each firearms is machined or cast individually. Each gun is assembled individually.

17 posted on 02/14/2013 6:51:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Pit1

Thanks. Good link. Surprisingly there are lowers out there available. The average folks who are grabbing up ARs don’t want to build. I picked up a Red Jacket uni 5.56 lower back in December. Haven’t decided my full build yet for that.


18 posted on 02/14/2013 6:52:06 PM PST by mnehring
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To: dynachrome

This is going to turn into another Mosin thread isn’t it? LOL. Doesn’t it always. :->


19 posted on 02/14/2013 6:53:45 PM PST by mnehring
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To: humblegunner

ping 12.


20 posted on 02/14/2013 6:54:22 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Yup. haha. sgammo.com had 22 cases@640 rounds each of czech practice ammo for the Mosin. gone in 2 days. I should have ordered some more.


21 posted on 02/14/2013 6:56:02 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: marktwain

One thing this whole affair has taught me is the value of having a lot of .22LR on hand. It seems the supply can end just like that.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 6:56:17 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: dynachrome

J&G Sales recently got in some 440 round tins of 7.62x54R light ball for $84.91.

I ordered a can last week. Looking at the web site it appears they still have some left:

http://www.jgsales.com/7.62x54r-comm-bloc-light-ball-fmj-ammo,-steel-case,-440rd-tin.-p-4431.html


23 posted on 02/14/2013 7:03:14 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: yarddog

No kidding. I’m still looking for some additional .22LR.


24 posted on 02/14/2013 7:05:02 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Real Cynic No More

And more comments here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2988561/posts


25 posted on 02/14/2013 7:05:39 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: marktwain

It’s not just guns and ammo. Other gun related “stuff” is starting to run out too.

I finally decided to shell out a bunch of bucks and bought a very nice second generation night vision rifle scope on-line today. I even called them to make sure they had it, and it was exactly what I was looking for.

It turns out I was too late. The customer service people called me up a couple of hours later and told me they sold the last one a few minutes before I placed my order. I’m now back ordered at least six weeks, assuming I get it at all.

So... I checked around for some other site with the same scope. It was not available anywhere on the web. I noticed a number of other night vision scopes were out as well.

If even night vision scopes are running out, every other kind of accessory is probably running low as well. If you have some accessories you may need/want sometime this year, you should consider getting them NOW.


26 posted on 02/14/2013 7:05:52 PM PST by EternalHope (Be ready.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

“I read on another site that this story had been at least partially debunked. 300 per day is not very many weapons for a manufacturer as large as S&W. I’m wondering if maybe the author merely slipped a decimal.”

Lack of material could indeed cause this problem.Good steel is not easy to get in quantity. Neither is brass, contributing to the ammo shortfall


27 posted on 02/14/2013 7:06:49 PM PST by Figment
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To: 2111USMC

Thanks. (I probably have enuff on the shelves, but who knows.)


28 posted on 02/14/2013 7:06:58 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

I never thought I would appreciate a .22 as much as I do now, but when that is even scarce, you appreciate what you have. I only have one .22 rifle (and not even a Ruger 10/22 either, want one). Even that I am not wanting to waste ammo now until this blows over.

Heck, I’ve even been picking up shotgun ammo at Wal Mart ever week (still cheap, 100 rounds of 20 gauge is still about $19).


29 posted on 02/14/2013 7:11:17 PM PST by mnehring
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To: yarddog

“I would have guessed the shortages would go on for a few high demand guns then pretty much be over in a few weeks.

Same for ammo.”

The gov is grabbing ammo as fast as they print the money to pay for it. Civilians are buying guns as fast as they can be made to ship. The feds need to do the math and back down. You can’t burn down every other house in the country and expect to win


30 posted on 02/14/2013 7:12:27 PM PST by Figment
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To: mnehring

“Small shops do that.”

They can’t if they don’t have the material to work with. You can’t make barrels and receivers out of thin air


31 posted on 02/14/2013 7:16:11 PM PST by Figment
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To: mnehring

I only have a Marlin .22 right now, but I will probably pick up something in .22, hopefully an older one. I bought a couple or 3 cases of ammo when it was on sale. deosn’t take up much room compared to the spam cans in crates of 7.62x54r!


32 posted on 02/14/2013 7:17:23 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Real Cynic No More
Have to agree. Colt produced 300 a day a century ago.
33 posted on 02/14/2013 7:17:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: marktwain

Black powder revolvers are plentiful and dirt cheap to buy and shoot.


34 posted on 02/14/2013 7:20:27 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
been thinking of a black powder rifle too. Red Jacket Muzzleloading has this beauty for sale for about $500.


35 posted on 02/14/2013 7:24:51 PM PST by mnehring
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To: 2111USMC
Picked up a AR15 about 4 weeks ago at WalMart. I walked in as they were fixing to unbox it. The label on the box said COLT AR15 LE6920. I shouted “SOLD”. I couldn't believe my luck. Price $1,097.00.

This is what I bought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar2R2bG14r4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BmKaQKDmx0

36 posted on 02/14/2013 7:31:04 PM PST by kempo
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To: mnehring
I’ve even been picking up shotgun ammo at Wal Mart ever week (still cheap, 100 rounds of 20 gauge is still about $19).

Must be 25 rounds for $19 isn't it? Otherwise I might have to jump on a plane!

37 posted on 02/14/2013 7:34:06 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Nope, 100 for $19. That is the price I’ve seen for a long time.


38 posted on 02/14/2013 7:40:34 PM PST by mnehring
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To: marktwain

I should have bought gun and ammo stock before this racist marxist was elected-I might have broken even after paying the extra taxes this pResident has put on me.


39 posted on 02/14/2013 7:40:34 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Fightin Whitey

Regular shot shells (not buckshot) only run about $5 to $7 per 25 round box.


40 posted on 02/14/2013 7:42:21 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: kempo

Nice!


41 posted on 02/14/2013 7:43:40 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: marktwain

Bookmarked.


42 posted on 02/14/2013 7:45:20 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Nailbiter; BartMan1

ping


43 posted on 02/14/2013 7:53:11 PM PST by IncPen (Read the Constitution.)
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To: marktwain

I am not sure most are preparing for war tho that might be a secondary reason, They are preparing for hard times.

Sure a few are preparing for war but if you have the proper guns then you can use them for a lot of uses.

A Browning model 92 lever action chambered for .44 mag is useful for deer and protection. It would also be a fine rifle for waging a partisan ranger style combat. Shoot one time, load one from your pocket. Always have the magazine full and ready.


44 posted on 02/14/2013 7:54:21 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: 2111USMC

Thanks for that info.


45 posted on 02/14/2013 7:57:47 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Mark


46 posted on 02/14/2013 7:59:06 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: marktwain

Can civilian hoarding really account for 22 ammo being unavailable throughout the land??


47 posted on 02/14/2013 7:59:51 PM PST by varmintman
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To: varmintman

Yes, everyone I know owns at lest 1 22 firearm and they are all buy everything in sight.


48 posted on 02/14/2013 8:04:37 PM PST by kempo
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To: varmintman

It probably can. .22LR is the one everybody wants for their most basic rock bottom gun when everything else is gone, the .22 can be still there in large quantities because it stores so easily and they also can be hidden so easily.


49 posted on 02/14/2013 8:05:10 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: varmintman

I scour the shops every time I go in. I’m looking for bulk .22 lr. It is unbelievable.


50 posted on 02/14/2013 8:06:01 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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