Science is of use in explaining and predicting the natural world. Creationism is useless.
And when science can’t explain something, you can just make up something that sounds sorta right and claim it is science.
much of what is taught in science class these days, is not science
“Science is of use in explaining and predicting the natural world. Creationism is useless.”
While it has its uses, science has played a huge role in the demise of “Western civilization” over the last 100 years. Now the science geeks, espousing much of what Nazism brought to the fore, can stand back and watch as the Earth is inherited by Creationists...
Scientists can never explain the origin of the universe, and the Big Bang is absurd per their own arguments; if matter is finite, the Tooth Fairy (can’t say “God”) triggered the creation of all matter...from an “explosion”...
Of course its useless to you...you see it as an enemy to your religion of science when they go together just fine. I don’t require you to believe neither should you do the same to others. The provable aspects of science are not in conflict with Christian faith but you demand that we say they are with statements like this one. The theoretical aspects yet unproven dont worry me nor should they worry you. The dismissal of the possibilities creationist’s bring to the table show the closed minds that exists.
LOL, I just read that postmodernism reality is only in your mind and the physical world does not exist. Gotta love scientists and philosophers. Your computer only exists in the reality of your mind. No wonder kids are losing theirs.
"Nothing comes from nothing and nothing ever could."
Science knows how to kill an unborn child. It takes Creationism to teach us that abortion is generally, if not categorically wrong.
Science knows how to kill an unborn child. It takes Creationism to teach us that abortion is generally, if not categorically wrong.
They are at it again Beep!
>> Creationism is useless.
What if the world really WAS created by a Creator?
Would Creationism then be useless? Or would it be descriptive?
OK... Using only rational evidence tell me how 250 proteins randomly assembled themselves into a single cell organism.
Once you do... recreate it in a lab.
By that definition, the myth of man made global warming/cooling is also useless but it is in our schools and government funded programs. It is behind the useless goal of ending the use of filament light bulbs. There are degrees of useless. Some are more imposing than others.
You’re on the wrong site. Leave Free Republic, antagonistic newby.
AMD, putting aside your reference to Hitler [and all your other ‘absolute’ type statements past and present], your new little protege, Zack Kopplin, also thinks global warming is true science - lol.
Your ivory towers are quickly crumbling b/c the state and authority figures with which you are so heavily involved and indebted are quickly going monetarily bankrupt, which only makes sense b/c they are also morally bankrupt.
Prepare for your funding to be removed soon and your very survival challenged on a daily basis - all thanks to the alters at which you worship - the great state of naturalism.
Choose ye this day whom you will serve!
From the article: School vouchers, he argues, unconstitutionally fund the teaching of creationism because many of the schools in these programs are private fundamentalist religious schools who are teaching creationism.
“These schools have every right to teach whatever they want no matter how much I disagree with it as long as they are fully private,” he says. “But when they take public money through vouchers, these schools need to be accountable to the public in the same way that public schools are and they must abide by the same rules.” Kopplin is hoping for more transparency in these programs so the public can see what is being taught with taxpayers’ money.
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Given that the Government School System is itself unConstitutional how can he rationalize the above? I find it hard to support a big government statist.
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He goes on:
“But it also violates the separation of church and state,” he says. “Teaching Biblical creationism is promoting one very specific fundamentalist version of Christianity, and violating the rights of every other American citizen who doesn’t subscribe to those beliefs. So it would be stomping on the rights of Catholics, Mainline Protestants, Buddhists, Humanists, Muslims, Hindus, and every other religious group in the country.
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What separation of church and state? The one where the state is your religion?
His inability to apply science to government weakens his argument.
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More from the article:
Science, he argues, is observable, naturalistic, testable, falsifiable, and expandable everything that creationism is not.
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So the above is true, then why not apply it to liberalism?
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Here he takes a hard left turn:
He worries that, if Louisiana (and Tennessee, which also has a similar law) insists on teaching students creationism, students will not be the ones discover the cure to AIDS or cancer. “We won’t be the ones to repair our own damaged wetlands and protect ourselves from more hurricanes like Katrina,” he says.
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“We don’t just deny evolution,” he says, “We are denying climate change and vaccines and other mainstream science. I’m calling for a Second Giant Leap to change the perception of science in the world.”
To that end, Kopplin would like to see $1 trillion of new science funding and an end to denialist science legislation. He wants to see the American public become more aware and better educated about science.
“My generation is going to have to face major challenges to our way of living and the way to overcome them is through rapid scientific advancement,” he says. “But as as of right now, America has a science problem.”
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He almost gets it, but the answer seems elusive. He’s calling for more Al Gorism and less Creationism, more government and less religion, more dumbness and less logic.
He’s inconsistent and it’s the liberalism that makes his argument so weak and him so ignorant. Science hasn’t fixed his mind yet, but he’s young.
You use Creationism like you would use turd to poison the well water. And, that is precisely the reason why you cant accept the term Creationist, or Creationism as legitimate. You dare not give it up for the propagandist value you gain in using it in the same fashion you might use fascist or racist.
In your abuse of Creationism and of the people who understand its importance, you dishonor America and Americans, and generally all Christians. We hold these truths to be self-evident may be the work of one man, but it was an expression of the sentiment of a whole people Americans; that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights . . . Natural rights as a creation of God. Mankind and the Universe, a creation of God. Likewise the idea of government by the consent of the governed. I could recommend that you look to the etymology of the word creation but that would do no good since you dare not take the point, because your need to dirty up a whole people is so desperate. And, in the process, you care not how many innocent bystanders you pepper with your scandal mongering broadsides.
Typical of the usual Progressive practice you make a bald assertion bereft of any points supporting the naked charge. Worse, you've now adopted the practice of simply throwing out the assertion and then running away. Thats not very scientific (especially coming from such a science groupie as you)
Science is merely the art of observation, of weights, measurements and hypothesis. It is in fact the lowest order of knowledge, metaphysics being of the highest.
Natural science can tell us nothing about anything it cannot see, touch, hear, etc. Nor can it tell us anything about events that occured before life, consciousness and time even existed. If it presumes to say something about these events it has encroached into metaphysics.
God is the only realistic explanation of incredible complexity of life and all that is. Any other explanation is an impossible dead end.