Who cares about the temperature of Dallas
We can have no idea what happened here
Posted on 11/29/2012 7:56:08 PM PST by kathsua
The new standard for teaching science in public schools should prohibit teaching religious beliefs like evolution as if they were the equivalent of scientific theories.
Science should be defined as using experimentation and observation to discover information about physical reality. Explanations of what happened in the ancient past cannot be verified using experimentation and observation.
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Contrary to a popular myth pushed by those who want to make science a substitute for religion, science has yet to produce a new explanation for the development of life or the origin of the universe.
The idea that the universe came out of a black hole (the "Big Bang" theory) became popular in the 20th century, but it is hardly a new explanation. An account attributed to the biblical patriarch Enoch (Noah's great-grandfather) first described an event in which "all of creation" came out of an invisible object with a fiery light inside (i.e., a black hole) thousands of years ago. Many cultures use the word "egg" to describe the object the universe came out of.
The idea of one species changing to another, particularly the idea of humans being related to apes, was around long before Charles Darwin wrote his "Origin of the Species." Darwin was reluctant to say we are a monkey's grandchildren, so he just suggested that we are distant cousins. The ancient Tibetan religion had no such inhibitions and claims that we are descended from monkeys.
Evolutionists ignore the fact that humans use gradual changes to develop complex equipment. Development of biological life through gradual changes implies that an Intelligence developed life.
Again, I did NOT claim exclusivity between science and a theory. The scientific method starts with a theory. The theory itself is not the proof. The repeatable observation is the proof.
And yes, I'm a scientist by learning and trade. Plus, I'm a Christian who became one after studying creationism, having been an atheist (read my profile if you want)
Now these are just question so please don’t think I assuming some sole accountability.
Secular science, aka modern day scientism, is all about the Big Bang theory so...
When did an explosion ever create more order and less chaos?
What do most modern day scientists tell you about the initial unleashing of the big bang? Does ‘that we’d have to set aside all known physical laws’ ring any bells for you?
For how long would the physical laws be ignored? Maybe 6 days appears to be just the first fractions of a second? I mean really how long do 6 days appear to be when juxtaposed against 10-15 billion years - very small minute fraction of time ehh?
Here’s another one just for you, take E=MC squared, now taken to extremes does that not imply that without energy [absolute zero] that matter would cease to exist?!?! Remember you can’t have 1 side of an equation zeroing out without the same for the other side.
Explosive metal forming of domes. Hydrodynamic lubrication in metalforming. It's done underwater with careful math.
Even cooks know that.
/johnny
Who cares about the temperature of Dallas
We can have no idea what happened here
What's your accomplishments? What kind of scientist are you?
Well then the careful math part implies it is more than just a mere explosion huh? I was simply saying the big bang without God is a big dud of a theory.
You can question me and my motives all you want or you can just accept the fact that God has allowed for our differences even if you are more learned in some specific discipline(s).
I’m not stupid, ignorant, well maybe a little bit redneckian but criminy I’ll believe God over every bit of science that flatly contradicts His Word and I’ll spend my time finding every bit and piece of the puzzle to defend my faith with alternative viewpoints and often discarded [but very much critical and needed] tidbits of science and truth.
The point of this article, and one I always try to make being a scientist, is that evolution is NOT science. It's a theory.Aren't you saying that evolution is not science because it's a theory?
Order and chaos, as measured by entropy, is an extensive variable, so an explosion can create lots of chaos with isolated pockets of order, and still create more chaos than order, as one might expect. In fact, life on earth, and even the land and the sea on earth, are such pockets of order, feeding, if you will, on the chaos of solar energy dispersion. It can't last forever, though, as emphasized by Brian Cox on Wonders of the Solar System "... the era of stars is over ..." Chilling thought. Can our minds really comprehend such things? Maybe for a little while :-)
/johnny
I don't question your motives.
Sorry if I ruffled feathers.
/johnny
Theories aren't proved. They are either disproved or improved upon. (Are you sure you're a scientist?) Theories such as the theory of evolution are the best explanations we have for the known evidence to date. Evolution, for instance is consistent with our knowledge of chemistry, comparative anatomy, genetics, comparative genetics, palaeontology and other scientific disciplines.
Couldn't help myself
Are you referring to, ‘survival of the fittest’?
Hell, for the last decade or so, much science isn't really science either!
So what's the problem? Suck it up. Our culture is changing and we have to accept it!
< /sarc >
Most people in the United States trace their ancestry from Western Europe. How come there are still Western Europeans around?
Really, the problem is that in our primary schools especially, we just have one big “Science” class and try to lump n everything. Something like evolution really belongs in a “Scientific Philosophy” or “Speculative Science” class, not taught alongside Kepler, Newton, Maxwell, and Einstein and the like.
There are “hard” sciences, like physics, chemistry, and biology, in which we can make our hypotheses, test them experimentally, and confirm them to a great degree of certainty. Then there are other sciences, like historical geology, Darwinian theories, and cosmological speculation, where the normal scientific method, by nature of our inquiries, is not such a simple thing to apply, and therefore, the hypotheses are often simply unable to be confirmed or dismissed with such a degree of certainty. Yet, we lump them all together, and do not bother to make sure that our children understand the subtle distinctions. To them, it’s all “science”, and science must be right, because teacher said so!
You have said you are “a scientist by learning and trade”, but your repeated misuse of the term “theory” and your general ignorance of the scientific method and specific ignorance of the Theory of Evolution lead me to believe you are either not being truthful, or that computer science types haven't got a clue about what actual science entails.
“Your best children’s best competition will be the home schoolers”
Yes, my home schooled children will meet good competition from other home schooled children, and together they will harness the efforts of brutish children raised with on foolish ideas.
“Sad, isn’t it? Sad that conservatism has been co-opted by a small but vocal faction that is utterly hostile to anything resembling science.”
I’m a creationist, and a conservative, and I’m not hostile to science. I’m looking over at my bookshelf, and at a glance, I see:
The World Treasury of Physics, Astronomy, and Mathematics
Asimov’s Understanding Physics
Practical Physics
The Timetables of Science
Microbiology
The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla
Theory of Sets
Theories of Everything
The Analysis of Information Systems
Medical and Health Encyclopedia
Dictionary of Mathematics
The World of Mathematics Vol. 1-4
Unsolved Problems in Geometry and Number Theory
Developing Computer-based Information Systems
Systems Analysis
Mobile Robots
and an old Radio Shack primer on Electronics
I suppose, since those books resemble science, I should get busy and burn em, eh? I dun found sum sciency devil books, let’s have us a burning! Weeee doggies!
“It’s like giving a chimpanzee a typewriter and expecting the chimp to write some magnificent script for the next blockbuster film... “
Nah, it’s a lot worse odds than that. It’s more like smashing a typewriter into a thousand pieces with a sledgehammer, then putting a lobotomized monkey in a room with the pieces, and coming back in a few years and finding a reassembled typewriter.
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