Posted on 11/15/2012 6:34:51 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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The Santorum folks on here don’t want to hear this, but this is exactly what did happen.
Rick Perry took himself out.
Rove had nothing to do with it.
And Adelson outright said that he thought Romney was going to win the nomination but kept pumping money into Gingrich because he didn’t like Santorum’s anti abortion stance.
“The Santorum folks on here don’t want to hear this, but this is exactly what did happen”
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They didn’t want to hear it then, and they won’t want to hear it now. I’m bracing for the backlash in 5-4-3-2-1 lol
Good report on Doughnut Boy, RR. We have to neutralize him in future primaries if we ever hope to get a conservative nominee.
As to Rubio, I will never support him as long as he remains an amnesty/open-borders advocate.
I will not support any candidate so stupid that they want us to go along with giving away our own country.
This is beyond stupid. Rove is a convenient idiot to dogpile on but conservatives who supported santorum or newt (and the candidates themselves) and refused to budge shoulder the blame for splitting the vote. If conservatives themselves can’t unite behind a single candidate then how could they amass enough votes to win a presidential election?
First of all, that’s a ridiculous statement since all had more or less the same stance. Second, this is not about Adelson’s money, this is about Rove’s influence, which dwarf’s Adelsons.
I have no problem with putting a bullseye on Rove but recriminations against various primary candidates at this point is just stupid.
*sigh*
Yes, that is true...
I’ve always liked Santorum, but won’t deny that this probably happened. (I think though Perry did himself in with worse than lackluster debate performances).
Even more reason we should consider taking our ball and leaving the GOP. I bet an independent Tea Party could even out-fundraise them.
And none of the aforementioned will be the nominee in 2016. (You can throw Palin in there, too.) At this point, my guess would be McDonnell, Kasich, or Rubio--maybe Walker or Jindal, possibly Ryan.
These people are master manipulators. They choose who the nominee will be ahead of time then work the donors of the other candidates to make them win.
The Tea Party rose up in 2009 and 2010 and the establishment manipulators went full force in ensuring that the most moderate person they could find would be nominated. The fact that Romnney created Universal Healthcare in MA undermined the Tea Party’s main issue. They made sure Cain and Gingrich were destroyed so Romney could win Iowa, then New Hampshire, then went ballistic on Gingrich in Florida. The powers that be wanted Romney and Romney it was going to be. And their man lost, which was probably also the intent.
A real conservative could have won in a sweep and both parties knew it so they did everything possible and conspired to prevent that from happening.
Lot of folks around here think its some kind of badge of honor to pick the worst candidate who happens to have the right views - that somehow, it’s a sell out if you actually pick a good candidat with the right views - there is some kind of sick attraction to the most obnoxious, petulant, off putting unelectable social conservatives that I don’t understand.
All of the candidates in the field, Paul excluded, would have ended up with more or less the same impact on social issues if elected. Some seem to think its important that we go down in flames with the Akins, Mourdocks, Santorums, to prove how pious we are too. I don’t get it.
I am less concerned with Santorum supporters than Rove’s cynical abuse of the social conservative voting base over the past decade. He propped up Bush in 2004 and several Senate races with all of the marriage amendments and social issue votes to drive turnout. Yes, it worked politically, but it shows that to these political elites, we are all just pawns to get their outcome.
In this primary race, it was relatively clear Romney was a poor option, but also pretty clear there was not a better one out there. I supported Newt, but to think he would have done any better with the fundamentals in this is wishful thinking. He had a major gender gap even among GOP primary voters. It would have been tough with the rest of the voters. As brilliant as Gingrich is, he would have been a tough sell in the general. There just wasn’t a better option in the field. Perry was our only hope. Amazingly, if Huntsman wasn’t such a shlep and ran as a conservative, he probably could have run and won the whole thing. he had a great fiscal record. He’s a major league loser, though.
Excellent job, Reaganite Republican.
Rove and his American Crossroads won’t go away on their own.
We’re going to have to defeat Rove by eliminating his “moderate” candidates by exposing them straight away, before the first primaries.
Like Jim is suggesting, we’re going to have to narrow our choices to three and preferably two, early on and stick with them.
I will no longer watch Fox ad long as Rove is a contributor. Same goes for Dick Morris any of those other shills for the GOP establishment RINO’s. I’ve lost all trust in the GOP.
Rove does more to hurt our cause than help it.
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