Machiavellian Rove 'Kept Santorum Alive Until He Could Kill Rick Perry First... THEN Newt Gingrich'

Reaganite Republican ^ | 15 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

GO AWAY already

It's over dude...

As you've most likely already heard, the TEA Party right has declared all-out war on Karl 'Boss Hogg' Rove in the wake of numerous recent (expen$ive) GOP disasters in which
'The Architect' played an inglorious starring role. The final straw was likely his lack of willingness to take responsibility for an almost complete lack of success in the 2012 election cycle, instead pointing fingers and making excuses like an Italian cruise ship captain.

Rove's flat-out whiffing in almost every race he backed -on top of improbable Romney defeat- would be enough for any sensible organization to seek-out somebody with a different strategy/skill-set... yet now Rove has provided still more reason to turn on him by attempting to blame the right for Mitten's lack of results while pushing an ill-conceived and unhelpful amnesty agenda as a shiny fool's gold cure-all for the party's current electoral woes.

As someone who initially backed Bachmann and later Newt Gingrich, I sure haven't forgotten the way Rove utilized near-limitless resources to destroy conservative candidates and ram Romney down our gullet. I really felt like I'd been totally screwed-over... not a very pleasant feeling.

Now we read that Santorum -who I'm no fan of- served effectively as a post-Iowa useful idiot that Rove utilized to damage all other conservatives, as he diluted and split the party's right by surrepticiously funding Santorum's dead-end campaign long past it's natural life. Not a huge surprise I guess, we all knew the fix was in... apparent from very early-on.

Thanks Ricky- do you even know you were played yet?

I ASK YOU who needs a duplicitous RINO scumbag like Karl Frickin' Rove manipulating our party- this gaming-the-primaries stuff is completely anti-democratic, denying the people's will (only 30% of Republicans supported Romney in the primaries- that's what you call 'collective wisdom'). 

Small wonder then that Rove got his blobular butt kicked all up-and-down the field on Election Day, and now the whole party is paying a heavy-duty price for it, not to mention the country (highlights Ed.)-

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Business Insider:

Karl Rove was out raising money to keep Santorum alive until they could kill Newt 

Santorum basically ran for Governor of Iowa in 2011, visiting all 99 counties; 

Santorum, out of Iowa, had no organization, no money and no chance in 2012 to be the Republican nominee; he was only a stalking horse for Mitt Romney 

Rove kept Santorum alive until he could kill Rick Perry first, and then Newt Gingrich. It's instructive to note that Santorum placed 3rd in the South Carolina Presidential Primary the third week of January, and placed 3rd again the next week in Florida — yet Rove [by encouraging GOP donors to donate Santorum] was able to parlay two third place finishes into a $1M shot of money to keep Santorum alive...this is political gamesmanship on a whole other level, plus access to unlimited money. 

That Fox News and the The Wall Street Journal worked out a hefty financial contract with Karl Rove is of no concern to me, Karl has every right to be paid well and -like me- participate in the political process. 

But giving Karl Rove the perch as a neutral analyst and an unbiased observer -honest broker- when in reality Karl is driven by his desire to enhance his clients and/or personal interests -corrupts the process. 

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But guess what? WE WILL WIN this war with Karl Rove and other ossified GOP failures over the next few months...
and we're going to have one helluva lot of fun doing it. 

Yes, the imminent death of the Karl Rove's diabolical RNC cabal will mean a true Reaganite renaissance in this country: you know... the long-overdue one who's time had unfortunately not yet quite come last week- but it is coming my friends, and soon.

How soon? It's already here for Rove- he wasted millions on crap results from coast-to-coast, and nobody's going to hire him for this sort of thing again- he can just sit there and bloviate on Hannity every night, 'blah blah blah CHART blah blah blah $$$ blah blah blah 'confident' blah blah blah blah blah' -yawn-

It's here for Obama's former crony-capitalist buddies on Wall Street, too- financial markets are tanking because most investors were sure that Romney was going to win, and since this was already priced-in to securities, now-disappointed traders are dumping in dismay... tell me they're not up for a Reaganomics-driven recovery right about now.

Yes, it's almost here for all of us: all we got to do is roll
Rollee-Pollee Rove to the curb and usher in a NEW generation of GOP leaders... the so-called 'Children of Reagan': the Rubios, Ryans, Gowdys, the Bachmanns... Ted Cruz... Mike Pence. THESE are people who get it- and because of that, they now stand ready to inherit the leadership mantle of the TEA Party
-which is to be indiscernible from the 'new' GOP- in our ongoing quest to salvage this great nation:

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Forbes:

Rubio already has earned rock star quality, both for his personal charisma and the charisma of his ideas. 

Rubio is a leader in presenting prosperity-with-social-equity, fostering Reaganesque economic policies: 

'We don’t need new taxes. We need new taxpayers, people that are gainfully employed, making money and paying into the tax system. 

And then we need a government that has the discipline to take that additional revenue and use it to pay down the debt and never grow it again. And that’s what we should be focused on, and that’s what we’re not focused on.'

Rubio leads the pack among GOP Insiders in the most recent National Journal Political Insiders’ Poll. He’s built a major league team and is first tier..

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First step? Replace John Boehner with -say- Paul Ryan...

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iowntheworld   Forbes   ArkansasGOPWing   RSN   Business Insider

[Reaganite Republican]

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[C. Edmund Wright]

The Santorum folks on here don’t want to hear this, but this is exactly what did happen.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Rick Perry took himself out.
Rove had nothing to do with it.

[cripplecreek]

And Adelson outright said that he thought Romney was going to win the nomination but kept pumping money into Gingrich because he didn’t like Santorum’s anti abortion stance.

[Reaganite Republican]

“The Santorum folks on here don’t want to hear this, but this is exactly what did happen”
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They didn’t want to hear it then, and they won’t want to hear it now. I’m bracing for the backlash in 5-4-3-2-1 lol

[SharpRightTurn]

Good report on Doughnut Boy, RR. We have to neutralize him in future primaries if we ever hope to get a conservative nominee.

As to Rubio, I will never support him as long as he remains an amnesty/open-borders advocate.

I will not support any candidate so stupid that they want us to go along with giving away our own country.

[plain talk]

This is beyond stupid. Rove is a convenient idiot to dogpile on but conservatives who supported santorum or newt (and the candidates themselves) and refused to budge shoulder the blame for splitting the vote. If conservatives themselves can’t unite behind a single candidate then how could they amass enough votes to win a presidential election?

[C. Edmund Wright]

First of all, that’s a ridiculous statement since all had more or less the same stance. Second, this is not about Adelson’s money, this is about Rove’s influence, which dwarf’s Adelsons.

[skeeter]

I have no problem with putting a bullseye on Rove but recriminations against various primary candidates at this point is just stupid.

[Irenic]

*sigh*

Yes, that is true...

[Buckeye McFrog]

I’ve always liked Santorum, but won’t deny that this probably happened. (I think though Perry did himself in with worse than lackluster debate performances).

Even more reason we should consider taking our ball and leaving the GOP. I bet an independent Tea Party could even out-fundraise them.

[Charles Henrickson]

I don't think Perry or Gingrich or Santorum or Bachmann--I don't think any of them were the answer. This has nothing to do with Rove. None of them could win the nomination, and even if they did, all of them would have been spanked worse than Romney was.

And none of the aforementioned will be the nominee in 2016. (You can throw Palin in there, too.) At this point, my guess would be McDonnell, Kasich, or Rubio--maybe Walker or Jindal, possibly Ryan.

[cotton1706]

These people are master manipulators. They choose who the nominee will be ahead of time then work the donors of the other candidates to make them win.

The Tea Party rose up in 2009 and 2010 and the establishment manipulators went full force in ensuring that the most moderate person they could find would be nominated. The fact that Romnney created Universal Healthcare in MA undermined the Tea Party’s main issue. They made sure Cain and Gingrich were destroyed so Romney could win Iowa, then New Hampshire, then went ballistic on Gingrich in Florida. The powers that be wanted Romney and Romney it was going to be. And their man lost, which was probably also the intent.

A real conservative could have won in a sweep and both parties knew it so they did everything possible and conspired to prevent that from happening.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Lot of folks around here think its some kind of badge of honor to pick the worst candidate who happens to have the right views - that somehow, it’s a sell out if you actually pick a good candidat with the right views - there is some kind of sick attraction to the most obnoxious, petulant, off putting unelectable social conservatives that I don’t understand.

All of the candidates in the field, Paul excluded, would have ended up with more or less the same impact on social issues if elected. Some seem to think its important that we go down in flames with the Akins, Mourdocks, Santorums, to prove how pious we are too. I don’t get it.

[ilgipper]

I am less concerned with Santorum supporters than Rove’s cynical abuse of the social conservative voting base over the past decade. He propped up Bush in 2004 and several Senate races with all of the marriage amendments and social issue votes to drive turnout. Yes, it worked politically, but it shows that to these political elites, we are all just pawns to get their outcome.

In this primary race, it was relatively clear Romney was a poor option, but also pretty clear there was not a better one out there. I supported Newt, but to think he would have done any better with the fundamentals in this is wishful thinking. He had a major gender gap even among GOP primary voters. It would have been tough with the rest of the voters. As brilliant as Gingrich is, he would have been a tough sell in the general. There just wasn’t a better option in the field. Perry was our only hope. Amazingly, if Huntsman wasn’t such a shlep and ran as a conservative, he probably could have run and won the whole thing. he had a great fiscal record. He’s a major league loser, though.

[cripplecreek]

If Mr. Gingrich could afford to continue campaigning, one of those people said, he might be able to draw off conservative and evangelical voters from Mr. Santorum, improving the chances of Mitt Romney, who Mr. Adelson believes has a better chance to win November's general election.

Gingrich's Main Backer Plays Two Angles

[onyx]

Excellent job, Reaganite Republican.

Rove and his American Crossroads won’t go away on their own.

We’re going to have to defeat Rove by eliminating his “moderate” candidates by exposing them straight away, before the first primaries.

Like Jim is suggesting, we’re going to have to narrow our choices to three and preferably two, early on and stick with them.

[Durbin]

I will no longer watch Fox ad long as Rove is a contributor. Same goes for Dick Morris any of those other shills for the GOP establishment RINO’s. I’ve lost all trust in the GOP.

[GP100]

Rove does more to hurt our cause than help it.