Posted on 11/15/2012 6:34:51 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
You're nothing but a turncoat Axelrod conservative who doesn't deserve to be even heard on any conservative forum.
Go back to DU or KOS, it's where you belong.
GFY.
The fact is that Governor Palin has been the most effective conservative in America for the last four years, she has been so successful in shaping the party into her own image, that she is already an historical figure, her Governors, Congress people and Senators are what we all cling to in this hour of Romney/Rove caused desperation.
Romney was seen as the anti-Palin leader of the right, and was the actual GOP nominee, yet who do we all think has had more political success and influence since August 2008, and who do we all think will have the most success and influence in 2014?
Great summary and well written :)
“...un-erasable negatives...”
Please explain what his un-erasable negatives are.
I kept hearing about Newt’s “baggage” all through the primary debates. What more baggage does he have that Obama, doesn’t?? As far as I know, Newt never hung out with communist radical assh*les, wasn’t brought up and educated by communist assh*le radicals, didn’t hide his college records and other pertinent information so as to avoid public scrutiny.
And In light of Operation Fast and Furious, and now the Benghazi disaster, especially, which I fully believe Newt would have handed him balls over in the debates. We’ve got dead Americans that are laying right at the feet of this fraud in the WH.
These topics never came up with any real attempt at pinpointing the blame squarely where it belongs. And Romney fought harder against his GOP opponents than he did against the REAL opponent. When it came to the vulgar brawl that we needed, he folded like a cheap lawn chair.
I’m just curious about the whole “baggage” and “negatives” thing, because every time I heard Gingrich speak, he seemed in command of the issues, and I remember him from his days going head to head with Clinton and making Slick Willie take it on the chin (instead of leaving it on Lewinsky’s chin [sorry...couldn’t resist]).
“...It would have been one of the biggest wipeouts ever, if not the biggest...”
You mean similar to the one we just had with Romney?
This election, and the GOP’s part in helping it, was a disaster for the entire country.
Personally, I think Gingrich scares the hell out of the dems and their RINO comrades alike. We need MORE candidates who scare the hell out of them.
Look at who they’re going after the hardest and you’ll know who they’re worried about - guys like Scott Walker, and Allen West for instance.
Those are the two gentlemen I want to see team up and run in 2016. I’d LOVE to see Allen West as the Speaker of the House - replace that spineless weasel we have right now with a combat vet that isn’t afraid to get in the faces of the domestic enemy.
Don’t take this an attack on your post either; merely want to understand what you mean by Newt’s “negatives”.
And Romney did not lose by a "wipeout," btw. Obama got barely over 50% (and that, maybe via vote fraud) in Florida, Ohio, Virginia, and--pick any one of several smaller states (NV, NH, IA) to go with them. If those few states are slightly different by a total of a few hundred thousand votes, we're now talking President-elect Romney.
But that now is water under the bridge. Romney didn't win, Gingrich would not have won, and neither will ever be running again.
guys like Scott Walker, and Allen West for instance. Those are the two gentlemen I want to see team up and run in 2016.
Two good men. Walker, I think, could have a shot someday on the national ticket, along with guys like Kasich, McDonnell, and Rubio, maybe Mike Pence. I also think Ryan will be a force in the future.
I’d LOVE to see Allen West as the Speaker of the House.
I'd love to see West in some prominent role, too. But simply as an objective prediction, I don't think West will ever be Speaker of the House or on a national ticket. He will be fortunate just to get back into the House of Representatives.
“..the negative image of Newt Gingrich was so well established...”
So that is the “baggage”? Got it, thanks for the clarification. I’ve heard that term so much, and it just rankles the hell out of me. Yeah, the media did their thorough hatchet job him for years. But I do believe if he took it to Obama directly, he would have come out on top it. But yeah...it’s moot now.
RE Romney “wipeout”: Understood. The fact that Romney won’t even challenge any of those totals where there is even the remotest hint of fraud is aggravating as hell. You KNOW the Dems would send an army of lawyers into every precinct and ward if the situation were reversed.
Reality check time.
Santorum got over a million more votes than Gingrich and Perry combined (Perry got almost none cause he flamed out early, and no evil mastermind made it happen he did it all by himself). It was the no longer viable GINGRICH staying in that robbed SANTORUM of a chance to win letting Romney narrowly win several key states where Newt was polling in the toilet.
Gingrich and Perry are establishment losers like Romney, not good conservatives. And they were so terrible and incompetent that Obama would have torn either one of them a new one, maybe cost us the House. Hell Gingrich couldn’t even beat a social conservative Senator who lost reelection by 18 points for 2nd place to Romney! He barley beat Paul for third place! Pathetic.
Did Karl Rove tell Newt to attack Romney from the LEFT? LOL.
Romney was great at attacking both the R party nominees and the voters themselves('you lazy moochers') , but not so great at going after Obama.
So you think that Newt beat Ron Paul out for third place using barley? I doubt that Paulistinians would skip the vote just because someone offered them free beer—you’d need to give them quite a bit of weed for that.
That’s, what, four times that you’ve writte barley instead of barely? That’s both hugh and series—I have to go take a shower.
We’re going to pretend this last time was on “porpoise”. ;)
I can tell you one thing, the Newtbots on this site must have been heavily into barley, if not weed. Or else they are just really really bad at math.
>>As brilliant as Gingrich is, he would have been a tough sell in the general.
Newt and Cain both have an ability to go around the media that might have won the day in the general. Romney has never shown any such ability.
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