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Machiavellian Rove 'Kept Santorum Alive Until He Could Kill Rick Perry First... THEN Newt Gingrich'
Reaganite Republican ^ | 15 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/15/2012 6:34:51 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

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To: Lakeshark

Any normal candidate would have beaten Carter 2 during this almost depression.

Mitt was just what freerepublic had said he was all along, a disaster of epic proportions. No wonder JR was so anti-Romney, until desperation had him call for a truce in banning the romneybots.

Romney was so unpalatable that he couldn’t even beat Carter 2, he was the disaster that conservatives had said he would be since he was telling us that William Weld was his political soul master and that he did not support Reagan.

Who thought that a Massachusetts governor booted out of office with 34% approval and rejected for reelection, was the goof ball to make the GOP presidential candidate.


101 posted on 11/15/2012 10:45:41 AM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Yes really, perspective. After Florida, it was over. Anything that happened after that was just wasting time and money. Perspecitve is needed, but the sweater vest geeks never had a shred of that.

Go ahead, worship your union thug, petulant, nasty pro enviro pro specter big government establishment tool if you want. Was and always will be a weenie tool.


102 posted on 11/15/2012 10:45:53 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Go ahead, worship your union thug, petulant, nasty pro enviro pro specter big government establishment tool if you want. Was and always will be a weenie tool.”

I believe this is called ‘building consensus’?


103 posted on 11/15/2012 10:49:37 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: ansel12

Amen, sir, Amen. :)


104 posted on 11/15/2012 10:51:07 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

No, that’s called the painful truth.
Consensus? Well, I’d have voted for Rick over Obama in a skinny minute and never would have considered sitting it out. But he is still a union thug, petulant weenie tool of the establishment who has only pedestrian talent, and who is a phony who actually did run as a liberal in Pennsylvania while blaming Mitt for running as a liberal in Massachusetts.

But consenus? I’d take him over Obama any day and twice on Sunday.


105 posted on 11/15/2012 11:08:30 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I don’t like Newt, but I don’t think he’s a traitor.

Why alienate people unnecessarily?


106 posted on 11/15/2012 11:15:18 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

It is one thing to make the argument that birth control isn’t something that government should mandate that insurance covers, any more than auto insurance should cover car washes.

I think we could get an electoral majority behind the idea that such mandates are not the proper role of government, not Constitutional, and that the consumer ends up paying more for it through insurance premiums than it would cost to just buy it outright.

It is entirely another thing to make the argument that birth control is “evil”, and that government should have the power, and should act upon that power, to outlaw it. I doubt if you could even win the Republican nomination making that argument, let alone the general election.


107 posted on 11/15/2012 11:21:04 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

I’m a faithful Catholic. I was perfectly happy with the status quo of you paying for your contraception, and leaving me alone.

Now, status quo no longer applies.

The Republican party can no longer ignore the issue of contraception. We have to tackle it. It’s not right that god-fearing Catholics are forced to pay for abortion and contraception through Obamacare.

Your statement saying that contraception is essential, sounds an awful lot like the Flake folks who are forcing me to pay for their contraception.

What am I supposed to think of you when you say the same thing she does?


108 posted on 11/15/2012 11:26:21 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

What am I supposed to think of you when apparently you have to lie in order to make your argument?

I never said birth control was essential. That is a construction of your own devising, a fraudulent one.

Making the religious freedom argument is also perfectly sound.

Making the argument that birth control is “evil” and something government should have the power, and act upon the power, to make illegal is an entirely different argument.

But thanks for attempting to conflate these separate arguments and your lame attempt to put words in my mouth.

Now I know what to think of you and it isn’t complementary.


109 posted on 11/15/2012 11:40:03 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

“Making the argument that birth control is “evil” and something government should have the power, and act upon the power, to make illegal is an entirely different argument.”

An argument I never made.

How many condoms are you buying this month?


110 posted on 11/15/2012 11:41:48 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I never said it was an argument you made.

Now why did you feel the need to lie about what I said to make your argument? That sure isn’t the behavior of any faithful Catholics I know and respect. Bearing false witness is one of the big 10. You should be ashamed of yourself.


111 posted on 11/15/2012 12:06:41 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: JediJones

How’d the ladies do with Obama vs. Romney ?


112 posted on 11/15/2012 12:09:10 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Rick Santorum didn’t win eleven states — more than three times that of Newt and RuPaul combined — because of Karl Rove. He won them by being the most credible alternative to Mitt Romney.

I agree that Rove has got to go for reasons that go quite far beyond the Presidential race, but come on.


113 posted on 11/15/2012 12:14:15 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Not sure what you mean. Romney outperformed McCain with both men and women.


114 posted on 11/15/2012 12:37:58 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: JediJones

The election we just had.
Romeny women:
Obama women:


115 posted on 11/15/2012 12:42:27 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Reaganite Republican

So helping Santorum was a bad thing? I don’t his supporters thought so. And what if he had been able to take off?

Many folks on here are irate at Mitt getting money and now we’re irate at someone giving money to Romney’s opponent?

This is a “damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t” conclusion.


116 posted on 11/15/2012 1:06:09 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Lakeshark
The functional maladroits of Team Mittens -- both online shills and campaign (*cough*cough*)"professionals" -- spent the entire first half of the campaign (when virtually every legitimate polling outfit showed them trailing Obama... badly) incessantly chittering and shrilling: "Don't Believe The Polls! DON'T BELIEVE THE EVIL, EVIL POLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSS --!!!"

When the continual cascade of No Good, Very Bad Polling Data continued unabated regardless, said maladroits -- rather than dealing forthrightly with the increasingly dire reality of their candidate's situation -- actively CHOSE to relocate, en masse, to a happy, magical la-la land of talking bunny make-believe. (E.g. "unskewedpolls.com"; "Lunch Alerts!" featuring bucktoothed wish-casting from Dick Morris; etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.)

... and now, today: rather than sacking up, like adults, and finally admitting that their cherished baseline assumptions ("Sacrifice the Conservative Base for 'Moderates'"; "You Really CAN Beat a Socialist with Socialist Lite!"; etc.) might have been, just maybe, wrong a teeny tiny little... they simply throw their hands up in the air, and huff exasperatedly: "Well, then, nobody could have won, darn it!"

Never, ever again will you (or I) live to witness such a perfect storm of mulish, blinkered GOP-e electoral incompetence and insanity as we've been treated to, these past twelve months or so.

God willing.

117 posted on 11/15/2012 1:11:36 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: allmendream

Not so nice when someone returns the favor eh? I accept your apology.

We need to be all on the same side - contraception isn’t appropriate for government intervention.


118 posted on 11/15/2012 4:46:27 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: ansel12
Stupid. You're just stupid. You didn't even bother to deal with what I said, this is not 1980, and you're a moron if you think it's the same, that the media can't simply simply censor issue after issue, partnering with the dems, that the electorate isn't half takers, that the corruption of the slush fund of the stimulus didn't happen.

You're one of the jackasses that didn't even vote, and you have the nerve to come on this forum and gloat (and bitch) because we have the unabated Marxist for four more years. You and your purist jack asses let him be reelected.

GFY.

119 posted on 11/15/2012 4:56:45 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

Yikes, that was one wild post.

All that I said was, that any normal candidate would have beaten Carter 2 during this almost depression.

Mitt was just what freerepublic had said he was all along, a disaster of epic proportions. No wonder JR was so anti-Romney, until desperation had him call for a truce in banning the romneybots.

Romney was so unpalatable that he couldn’t even beat Carter 2, he was the disaster that conservatives had said he would be since he was telling us that William Weld was his political soul master and that he did not support Reagan.

Who thought that a Massachusetts governor booted out of office with 34% approval and rejected for reelection, was the goof ball to make the GOP presidential candidate.

Seriously, who thought that a Massachusetts governor booted out of office with 34% approval and rejected for reelection, was the goof ball to make the GOP presidential candidate?


120 posted on 11/15/2012 5:07:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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