Posted on 11/15/2012 6:34:51 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
I think that Rove is a good tactician. The problem is that he’s not a strategist. He thinks he is, but he’s a tactician. Rove and the Republican Party’s focus on tactics elected Bush....twice. It also elected Obama....twice. Rove would be good as part of a Republican election team, but not as the leader of a team. I don’t think that his ego will let him subordinate himself to be a team player.
Yeah, Santorum Stopped Gingrich. 11 > 2.
He’s exactly right, but as usual, got the wrong target. Gingrich cost Santorum wins in Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan.
I sent Rick $100.
Still waiting for my sweater vest...
Karl Rove is probably one of the worst things ever to happen to the GOP.
Karl Rove is probably one of the worst things ever to happen to the GOP.
Altho this election was flat out stolen from us, and altho NOTHING will be done by the Stupid Party to go after the filthy bastards that stole it, I personally have had enough of Rove (the “Architect” as Hannity continually calls him . . . and I’ve had enough of Hannity).
This election was stolen with dramatic finesse right out from under our noses, and the powers-to-be in the Repub Party stood there like morons and let it happen.
There was no way we could’ve won this election:
* Airplane crash with hundreds of thousand military ballots gone
* Ballots found in trunks of cars, in warehouses, under desks, in filing cabinets, in graveyards
* Repubs being refused entry into voting precincts by the lawless bastards on the left, and nothing was done about it
* States being prohibited from removing felons and dead people from the rosters
Everything smells to holy high heaven, and the Stupid Party will do nothing.
I concur.
You are correct. Romney gave us the best chance to win, and he came close. Did a lot of things right (e.g. Ryan), did some things wrong (e.g., not enough specifics on his five-point plan). Overall, ran a fairly decent campaign, could have been stronger, coasted too much toward the end.
yada yada yada - you insist on changing the subject. You can’t change the fact that Santorums vaprous campaign was kept alive by Mitt’s money, or the express purpose of beating Newt. Now, did both Mitt and Newt under estimate Santorum’s appeal to those anyone but Mitt voters? Yep, and I was inside Newt’s PAC warning about this as early as the first week of January. Did they make mistakes? Damn right they did. But that was after the period this article is talking about.
But nothing changes the fact that Santorum has no appeal outisde of a slice of the GOP electorate, and nothing changes the fact that he is a pro life liberal on may issues regarding unions, environmental issues, and big government. And nothing changes the fact that while he has a narrow slice of folks who loved him, he was offputting the vast majority of the country. He just doesn’t have that much ability.
What Newt and Mitt missed is that with Mitt’s scorched earth campaign, and teeny tiny turn outs in all states AFTER South Carolina, that narrow slice of Santorum support was a big percentage of the shrunken universe.
But again, nothing changes the fact that his campaign was floated by Rove and Mitt money for the purpose of destroying Gingrich.
Karl Rowe = James Carville
Both past their prime talking heads...and both are cockroaches that need to be stumped out!
He comes across as corrupt, slimey, and everything people hate about politics,
He needs to be sent far far far away.
McCain raised 1/3 the money that romney did and got the same turnout.
$$$$ is not everything if you have to get in bed w the likes of rove & co. .
I didn’t particularly like Perry, but saying his ‘lackluster performance’ did him in is silly. Obama had a terrible performance. It was the lazy b@stards in the GOP who just DID NOT WORK to win.
I heard that the Dems had 130 working outreach centers in Ohio and the GOP had six!
the only positive thing is that we came close to beating the Obama Machine even with both hands tied by this sh!t-@ss party.
Where the hell did the money go?And so what am I going to do about it? I’m going to, first of all, find out how the GOP works. What is its organizational pattern, how things get done.
Very few people know anything at all about any political party; it’s structure, its offices, how people get to positions of power. etc. This is what I need to know.
It’s what we all need to know.
3000 votes in Michigan which was under 1% and was a tie with Romney till the rules committee voted to change the rules in the middle of the night.
However Gingrich didn’t interfere in Michigan but getting out would have cost Romney the state and likely ended his run.
The race was over after Florida. It was just a matter of time. This article is talking about the critical time of Iowa through Florida.
The tiny GOP primaries in those states were vaporous niche contests. You can claim “states” all you want, but in the primary, unlike the general, “states” mean very different things. Just teeny tiny percentages of the voters in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan even came out. Rick’s shameless pro union sops helped him in those very union thug heavy states. That and the narrow niche he appealed to. Turn out was statistically meaningless.
But people who think that winning certain primaries has anything to do with being able to win those states electorally are just so out of touch with how the process works that I care not to discuss it with them.
Weakest field ever in a primary.
This points to my biggest revulsion towards Rove... his going on FoxNews and pretending to be an ‘unbiased’ political analyst while taking massive amounts of money and utilizing his platform to deliberately prop-up or deep-six candidates, according to who fills his wallet.
Of course, this invariably leads to the support of big-moneyed GOP-E Rino candidates of the ruling-class, and the slitting-the-throats of grassroots tea-party types. I despise Rove as much as any sleazoid Dem operative. Maybe even more.
Yup. I said FL was the last stand for a conservative alternative to Romney and Newt had emerged as that candidate in SC. I said if Santorum stayed in, it was to benefit Romney.
Those here enraptured by the sanctimonious establishment hack Santorum would hear nothing of it. They didn't care about his voting record, his GOPe ties, he had a nice family and was talking their values and they followed him like the Pied Piper. They would travel thread-to-thread in attack mode.
Now unlike the op ed, I think Romney was the right candidate in the end. He had the right skill set for the mess we find ourselves in. Who among us could anticipate GOP turnout would be as low in light of the crowds? It came down to ground game and people, like those who supported Santorum, refusing to ever vote against Obama because Romney was the nominee.
The so-called Tea Party failed to stop Obama's agenda, it lost ground over 2010 and produced more US Senate candidates who failed in states Romney won easily with tens, even hundreds of thousands of votes difference. Now some seem to think this is a mandate to hijack the agenda. It is nothing of the kind. It's time for introspection, time to reexamine how primary candidates are chosen.
These winnable but lost seats were the difference between a GOP Senate and Harry Reid's expanded majority against all expectations.
I have not seen a single of Akin apologist here admit to being wrong about him staying in the race. Instead they attacked, they demonized, the slandered everyone from Romney to Palin, from DeMint to Ryan, to their fellow freepers as pro-abortionists.
More delusions. Did someone spike the tea?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.