Posted on 09/03/2012 9:50:53 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
Last week we got a report on a Mitchell poll from Michigan that has the New York Times swinging off the rafters. The Grey Lady got so apoplectic over the results because they showed Mitt Romney and Barack Obama tied at 47/47 in Michigan.
Writing his rebuttal to this outrage the Times Nate Silver cited another poll that upon closer review provides virtually the same results. Silvers new best friends at the Lansing-based EPIC-MRA polling company say Obama leads 49/46 with a 2.6 +/- Margin of Error which is all but the same thing.
That the EPIC-MRA poll conducted in July showed Obama leading Romney in Michigan by 48%-42% didnt seem significant enough for to the Times to mention. In his report the EPIC-MRA pollster Bernie Porn ( yes thats his real name) said Romney leads by 13 points among Independent voters just 48/47 among men and trailed by only 51/47 with women.
Silver didnt like the Mitchell polls decision to use an African American turn out of eight percent because it was too low, but liked EPIC-MRAs setting African-American turnout at 10%.
Silver scoffed at Mitchells finding of Obama leading 73/26 among African Americans. Nevertheless Silvers favorite poll shows Obama winning African Americans by 91/7 and White voters standing with Romney 50/45. The 2008 CNN exit polls showed Obama winning African American Michiganders by a rate of 97/3 and losing White voters 51/47.
If Obama loses six points off his national African American vote and actually sees the turnout of Black voters drop from 12% to 10% of the total vote he is cooked. The 48/47 lead EPIC-MRA assigns to Romney has with men is quite suspicious.
Anyone who believes Barack Obama is now doing better with men than he did four years
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
i called thirteen democrats and 8 of them said they were voting for obozo.
looks like a landslide for the rats.
the percentage is too large to bother to compute.
Blessings, bobo
Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, and the one that yelps is the one that got hit.
Thanks jmaroneps37.
The level of enthusiasm around here for Zero is quite noticeably lower than it was in 2008. There’s just no question about it. The nasty anti-McCain comments have not been replaced by nasty anti-Romney comments. The usual a-holes and idiots have the Obama-Biden signs in their yards, and frankly, I hope their houses accidentally burn down with them in it. See, that’s a sample of the kind of nasty comments I remember from 2008.
The number of Demagogic Party bumperstickers is lower, but tend to be seen on cars with LOTS of stupid political stance bumperstickers. It reminds me of that house on Jackson in Grand Haven that, years ago, was completely covered with the owner’s nutty ramblings. It peaked with his addition of a sign in the front yard. Then he sold (or died, or maybe his neighbors killed him) and it became just another house, hard to remember which one it was, really. :’)
Here’s another thing for zipheads at the Slimes to have a stroke about:
Mitt Romney gains traction among Latino voters
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2926059/posts
The evil Commie (yeah redundant) Times loves all things harmful to America but it's getting harder to pay the bills with intelligence insulting perfidy...even the dumass subscribers have issues with overly transparent politically sullied mendacity above the fold and every page following that tries to rationalize their financial suicides for Lenin's “greater good.”
The capacity for Leftist stupidity among the arbitrarily anointed intellectual elite has always been a challenge for gifted psycho historians to describe—some call it hyper altruism—a mental illness born of intentional negative personal displacement which leads to the self genocides of lemmings and March hares when a drone in their ranks decides to lead from ignorant boredom alone.
Silver is a left-wing hack and a form Kos Kid. He scoffs at Rasmussen and has no problem with any media polls or PPP. The only reason he has any relevancy is because he was off one state in 2008. He was way off in the 2010 house races.
Quite frankly, Nate Silver is the ONLY poll analyst I trust. He called 50 of 51 States/DC in 2008. He was ded on with the GOP surge in 2010. Putting emotions and politics aside and just looking at the results of analysis, he is, hands down, the best.
If those numbers are even halfway correct, then the president is toast. McCain took, what, 6% of the black vote in '08?
Nah he’s overrated
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/27/for-democrats-losing-the-house-is-not-inevitable-just-very-likely/
Patrick Ishmael at HotAir was closer
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/10/25/eight-days-out-gop-still-poised-to-gain-60-house-seats/
Silver began to publish analyses and predictions related to the 2008 United States presidential election. At first this work appeared on the political blog Daily Kos, but in March 2008 Silver established his own website, FiveThirtyEight.com.
In April 2009, he was named one of The World's 100 Most Influential People by Time.
"Pretty sure Romney would win today if the election were held by robopoll. Otherwise kind of unclear."
Silver (who grew up in East Lansing) should know that the Mitchell Polls are usually among the closest for the election. He’s letting his partisanship get in the way of his analysis.
Silver’s not bad, but that was a stupid article he wrote dismissing the Mitchell polls simply because it’s not a national poll. Mitchell and EPIC/MRA are two longtime used polls here in Michigan. Mitchell usually gets it close.
I'm just sayin' ...
isn’t it great!
when you look at who they are polling, they twist it up so bad that they try to make it look best for the person they are supporting.
i am old, i remember when they tried that with Reagan against carter.
it was a dead heat. Reagan destroyed carter. polls are for pollsters, pollsters are liars, they only give the correct results the day before, so they won’t look like buffoons.
otherwise, they try to manipulate the public.
ya think that the majority of the people changed their mind a day before the election to put Ronald Reagan in office?
the MSM are liars.
Blessings, bobo
The capacity for Leftist stupidity among the arbitrarily anointed intellectual elite has always been a challenge for gifted psycho historians to describesome call it hyper altruisma mental illness born of intentional negative personal displacement which leads to the self genocides of lemmings and March hares when a drone in their ranks decides to lead from ignorant boredom alone.
William F. Buckley, in a long-ago National Review piece, called it "moral elephantiasis."
Google now reveals that he wasn't the first to conjoin this pair of words.
Could you please give a reference to your post. Thanks!
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