Posted on 03/03/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.
Jerome Corsi writes:
Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.
During the course of my employment, Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obamas long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.
As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.
Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health, Adams affidavit reads, and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.
There is nothing compelling about their investigation. It recycles stuff that has been posted here before. I spent some time looking back at old FR threads - all the PDF issues were discussed many times. They clearly show that it is not a black and white issue like you believe and there are more likely explanations besides deliberate forgery. They clearly show a lot of amateur analysis by people that are clearly not experts.
And then I consider the sources.
Jerome Corsi has his fingerprints all over this investigation. There is not a nutty theory in the world he isn’t willing to dabble in - from 911 to NAU to abiotic oil. He called for the impeachment of GW Bush for covering up the “truth” about 911.
And the lead investigator Mike Zullo, while conducting the “investigation”, was simultaneously writing a book with Corsi about the investigation. A book that was put on sale the day after the press conference.
Corsi is a nut case and a liar. I believe nothing that comes from him. Zullo prostituted whatever credibility he had to make a buck.
It should not be a surprise that most people are ignoring this event. It should be crystal clear why it has not gained any traction in the legal system.
The birthers were played by both sheriff Joe and Corsi.
and the establishment knows that their guy the RINO Romney would never expose the truth or order an investigation into this or even how the MSM worked with the white house to help him win election and cover many issues up.
Like many in the establishment said about Newt and others, “we do not need someone rocking the boat”
All it takes is a republican to get in office and then expose obama, the left and the MSM but sadly the GOP has no balls and will only help their kind of yes sir guy.
This is not a matter of saying he is not this or that, this is about just show the damn thing and why do you refuse to show your past and why do you even fight this at all levels if you have nothing to hide and you can put all of this to bed.
I heard one liberal mouthing off some months ago how the likes of Perry are stupid and dumb and so I asked if obama was bright.
She said he was the smartest guy in the white house for some time but when I asked what grades he got or what were his papers like she couldn’t answer like all of his supporters
sadly not if we keep getting the likes of Romney and others with no balls to uncover this.
Yeah it would have taken them 10 minutes to resolve this but insrtead they chose to hide records unlawfyully change lase and do everything to prevent the truth from coming out. So they spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars to hide the truth instead ofd complying with their own laws yeah waht is their real job? covering for Obama or their own corruption? You are an ignorant or deceptive obot.
The Cold Case Posse presentation has more credibility than your unsubstantiated assertions.
They are ignoring birthers. They know nothing will resolve the issue for birthers. Even if you were satisfied, someone else will find reason to disagree and will bombard the DoH with even more requests.
How can they be spending hours and dollars if they are ignoring you? How much does it cost to throw away a letter or delete an email?
It is pretty simple - birthers are a fringe group with no influence that can be ignored with complete impunity.
Jerome Corsi has his fingerprints all over this investigation. There is not a nutty theory in the world he isnt willing to dabble in - from 911 to NAU to abiotic oil. He called for the impeachment of GW Bush for covering up the truth about 911.
And the lead investigator Mike Zullo, while conducting the investigation, was simultaneously writing a book with Corsi about the investigation. A book that was put on sale the day after the press conference.
Corsi is a nut case and a liar. You think for a second any DA would believe anything from Corsi? He has a track record of peddling any conspiracy theory to make a buck. He can’t run away from that record.
If Zullo was still a cop, he would have been fired for his conduct. No DA is going to give him the respect and credibility due a LEO - he just pissed that away to make money.
Are you familiar with Ace of Spades HQ? It is one of my favorite websites. Every single member of the staff there argues that Obama is legitimate, up to and including Ace. (Ace said it was those newspaper announcements that convinced him.)
Now I know they are conservatives. Everything they write is from the conservative perspective, but on this particular issue, they are most decidedly against me.
I define "Obot" as anyone who is actually on Obama's side, whether they be paid or not. Dr. Conspiracy is an example of one of these, and I have no doubts that a lot of liberals are coming to free republic just to post defenses of Barack Obama's legitimacy.
However, I do recognize that there are actual conservatives who believe he is legitimate. I have argued with too many of them to doubt their existence, and the Entire Staff of Ace of Spades HQ is an example of these type of people.
El Sordo and I have had plenty of testy exchanges, but I have seen nothing in his writing (except for his defense of Obama's legitimacy) to make me think he is not a conservative. I think he is a misguided conservative as opposed to being an actual Obama supporter pretending to be a conservative.
If any evidence comes forward which shows El Sordo to be other than a conservative, I will of course re-evaluate my original opinion. I've been wrong before. (Not very often, but once in a while. :) )
Jerome Corsi has his fingerprints all over this investigation. etc.
Please recall, an investigation would be conducted by a grand jury. A grand jury shall be called on petition of the county attorney. The current county attorney was elected in 2010 with the endorsement and support of Arpaio. Just sayin
Your infamy will follow you on this forum.
The DA will not use this investigation as probable cause - he has his professional reputation to protect. He knows what Sheriff Joe is up to - I doubt he is concerned that he will receive a petition.
Are you saying that known liars can produce truthful results. That the credibility of the participants is irrelevant to the results of an investigation? Really?
Do you find what they found out to be incorrect in some manner and, if so, why?
Where is the "19" on the selective service stamp?
Drives you nuts, doesn’t it? You keep working hard now - don’t forget where your taxes are going.
Good question - why doesn’t Sheriff Joe conduct a real investigation? How many investigators do the taxpayers fund for him?
Habitual liars lie habitually. Corsi is a habitual liar.
What you are really saying is “I know the results are the result of a flawed investigation carried out by known birthers with proven agendas. But now that these flawed men have produced something, you have to take the results seriously.”
And my reply is “No I don’t. Corsi is a nutcase who wouldn’t recognize the truth if it bit him in the ass.”
Corsi, Zullo and Farrah just want to make money - more power to them. You just need to accept that they and Sheriff Joe boned you and move on.
What you are really saying is I know the results are the result of a flawed investigation carried out by known birthers with proven agendas. But now that these flawed men have produced something, you have to take the results seriously.
I'm not saying any such thing.
And my reply is No I dont.
I asked two questions. To which of them were you replying?
You just need to accept that they and Sheriff Joe boned you and move on.
I haven't been "boned" and I have no intent to move anywhere. I personally intend to hammer this out to a proper conclusion in whatever way I can.
We don’t have to give up on anything. When I first looked at the BC released by the White House in April I was hoping it was real... Get it? Why you ask? Because it proves once and for all that Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen, and because of that Obama could not possibly be a “natural born citizen.” Citizen? Yes. But not natural born. In fact, if Obama Sr. is the messiah’s father, Obama actually had dual citizenship when he was born. Imagine my dismay when I realized, within minutes, that Obama’s BC was a fraud. We still don’t know, and you could be right. He may actually be qualified to be Pres. But nothing so far has established that.
If that reply is in answer to this question...Do you find what they found out to be incorrect in some manner and, if so, why?...then you're agreeing that what they found was proof of fraud.
I just want to make sure I'm getting you right and you haven't made another mistake.
It doesn't make sense if it were in response to this question...Where is the "19" on the selective service stamp?
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