Posted on 04/02/2011 6:11:47 AM PDT by wistful
I’m really over Glenn Beck. He persistently promotes himself as someone who cares about the US Constitution, yet here he is on the O’Reilly show sneering and scoffing and trying to belittle Donald Trump (on the BC issue) with as much gusto as any leftist. How can he do this and then be sincere in his professed concerns for the application of Constitutional law?
Trump is in the right, he’s brave, and we need to support him on this issue. If Beck cannot do that simple thing then he’s off my Christmas card list. There is absolutely no reason why Obama can not be hit on his BC and policy simultaneously, and there is not one shred of proof for the claim that Karl Rove so often makes, that Obama is setting the BC issue up as a diversion.
In my judgment, the Democrats and their media collaborators betray again and again that their attempts to downplay this issue are fake and they are really, underneath their smug and arrogant veneer, as worried as hell.
As I watched the segment today, I found my respect for Beck slipping quickly away. I just do not like him anymore.
Link to video:
http://truebluenz.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/beck-on-oreilly-scoffs-and-sneers-at-donald-trump/
How much has Trump paid you to be his shill?
Rush usually gets it right 99% of the time. He now has an Obama BC song...Born in the USA.
The other Epic Ego struts. A classic cockfight.
“How much has Trump paid you to be his shill?”
Wow, that is a really offensive comment. I think the BC issue is important and I want the Berlin wall the media have built around the matter pulled down. I think Trump needs support for sticking his neck out the way he has. For you to allege I am taking money from Trump is just a cowardly and completely baseless smear unbecoming to this forum.
Agreed! Beck was saying the exact things about Trump that people say about him (clownish, extreme on issues, etc.). And he’s ANOTHER one that totally dismisses the BC issue.
But his words on O’Reilly yesterday were outrageous! It was like if HE isn’t the one bringing an issue to light, it’s not worth talking about. I think I’m “over” him, too!
If we applied the same standard to Beck he would not have much to say. Beck has not diminished much in my eyes because of this because I never held Beck in much esteem in the first place. In fact, he had become less and less to me as he gets more and more self-absorbed with himself.
We are still a long way out and Trump is doing a good thing by bringing up the birth certificate issue at this time.
I have started to wonder since all of the Republicans seem to be working just as hard to mock birthers... if they don’t want their own complacency in the sham to be highlighted.
Beck is a Libertarian and their god is Ron Paul. Isn’t that what most Libertarians do? Sneer at everyone but Paul?
How much has Obama paid you to be his?
I heard the exchange. I wouldn’t say that Beck scoffed or sneered; but he did question Trump’s braggadocio and the wisdom of saying some of the things that Trump has said. Which any sane person would do - remember this IS Donald Trump. He deserves a great deal of skepticism as a candidate, given a pretty spotty past.
BTW - I love some of the things that the Donald is saying right now, and I loved the birther issue brought up by Trump, but that doesn’t mean that Trump is an ethical, Constitution-following conservative presidential caliber candidate.
“Beck says at the end something like “I wish we could get candidates that are not provocative......” “
Yes, exactly, and he finishes off by saying he wants the truth when Beck himself is actually hiding the truth and attacking those who want it brought into the open.
Also he actually misrepresents what Trump said on the Muslim angle. If I remember correctly, Trump was only speculating on a possible reason and not stating it as likely or a fact, as Beck tried to imply.
It’s all about ratings and money with these idiots. I’m over Beck as well. Never watch his TV show anymore. I guarantee that these guys have a meeting together somewhere in the Fox offices and they say to each other something like “im not touching this birther issue because it will be the end of my career” that’s all these jerks care about is their shows and paychecks. Beck and O’reilly are frauds. And if birthers win the day, those idiots will have such egg on their face
I don’t get it either.
As detail oriented as Beck is about obama and his associations, why doesn’t he realize that this presidency could be null and void if this constitutional requirement was taken seriously.
I mean, it is about the survival of our Republic, which Beck portrays himself as being all about.
I do not understand people like this. It’s not enough for them to say (like Mark Steyn does) “I’m not a birther but they do have something to say, let’s talk about issues.” No, they have to sound exactly like the freaking Huffington Post.
Sir, I think Wistful is exactly correct that Trump should be defended by Freepers as he is only trying to get at the truth about our President’s eligibility. Why?..........then does this make Wistful a “shill” in your view?
One can only assume from your comment that you support Obama and his attorneys and his million dollar cover up effort? If so, you clearly are on the wrong forum........with all due respect..............
I am beginning to agree. Beck is losing himself in egoland and becoming increasingly ineffective.
It is beyond absurd that he does not apply his famously intense research team to bust wide open the Obama fraud.
In fact, I would say it’s conspicuously strange that he does not...he who tells us do not be afraid to ask questions.
Yet here he is on the front row, ridiculing honest inquiry by Trump.
He is really hurting the Beack brand with this nonsense.
Wake up Glenn.
At least treat Trump with due respect for asking the questions that staying on millions of minds.
“I love some of the things that the Donald is saying right now, and I loved the birther issue brought up by Trump, but that doesn’t mean that Trump is an ethical, Constitution-following conservative presidential caliber candidate.”
Yes, that is fair criticism, but right now, I think we have to put that aside and support him, in order to persuade more real Conservatives to speak out on the BC issue as they should.
Beck on O’Reilly, scoffs and sneers at Donald Trump
... so do I
I have been a huge Glenn Beck fan since he moved to Fox ... but he is wrong on this, so much to the point that we all should send nice, polite emails to tell him how wrong he is.
Trump may be the only candidate that beat Obama. As much as I love Sarah, the media will destroy her. Bachmann is also a favorite but I am not sure she has what it takes to get over the finish line. Newt, Huck, Mitt, et al, - are you fricking kidding me?
We need to show Glenn that he is wrong about Trump. I think it would be great if Glenn would have Trump on for a whole hour and discuss the issues of the day.
Any republican who is not now suspicious of this presidents birth issue are culpable.
After this little ditty by Trump, there are so many questions that you’d have to be Deaf, Dumb and Blind if you dint see a problem.
“so much to the point that we all should send nice, polite emails to tell him how wrong he is.”
I’ve done just that on frequent occasions. Beck seems completely impervious to reason on this issue.
For you to allege I am taking money from Trump is just a cowardly and completely baseless smear unbecoming to this forum.
I agree.
Seems very alinsky like to me ... but that’s just me
As detail oriented as Beck is about Obama and his associations,...
I agree. Beck loves to connect the dots. Perhaps Glenn, it too, fits into the puzzle which is Obama? Why does he throw this dot under the bus?
Suddenly Trump, who has trashed Sarah Palin and gushes over Mayor Bloomberg and was pro-choice until about a month ago, is a conservative?
Beck is a phony. He proclaims to be all for defending the Constitution but mocks and ridicules those who seek to defend the Constitution against the biggest Constitutional crisis of our time.
“If you don't believe he has a birth certificate, you can say ‘I don't believe he has a birth certificate.’”
Beck affirms that it is perfectly OK with him for Trump to say that Obama doesn't have a birth certificate if that is what Trump believes.
Beck's objection and mockery of Trump was regarding Trump's sloppy research in suggesting that Obama’s BC might say he was born a Muslim. As all FReepers know who have been following this issue, there is no religion field on the Long Form, which even the London Daily Mail was able to point out IIRC.
Trump undermined his credibility and seriousness on the issue by failing to do his homework or alternatively, it Trump knows there is no religion field on the BC, he was just being provocative to get attention, which is what both Beck and O’Reilly were pointing out as being counterproductive and undermining of the GOP. Do your homework, Trump!
What is most significant to me is that neither Beck nor O’Reilly slammed Trump for stating a belief that Obama did not have a BC, and neither one said “Obama already released it” or “The newspaper announcement prove he was born in HI”.
Again, Beck said “If you don't believe he has a birth certificate, you can say ‘I don't believe he has a birth certificate.’” O’Reilly said it was would be good for Trump to get in the race to shake things up.
Since O’Reilly wasn't referring to the “Muslim” suggestion by Trump, O’Reilly can only be expressing his actual approval of Trump raising questions about Obama’s failure to produce a 1961 BC, IMO.
Same here, Beck has lost me, for this and other reasons.
My God, is there no one....I mean is there no one, out there who can bypass this BS on the birth certificate and raise the issue of Natural Born Citizenship?
Trumps kids were born to Ivana and Donald Trump. Ivana was at the time NOT a US citizen, thusly their children would not be eligible to run for the presidency.
I doubt that there is a Hawaii birth certificate. There can’t be, because he wasn’t born in Hawaii. His grandma simply announced the birth that took place in Kenya, CAnada or who knows where.
Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Hannity, BOR, Beck... not one single person brings up the question mark about the guy’s school records...his writings his college...his social security questions etc....
One thing for sure, the BC issue will now NOT go away. It will be like the Swift Boat issue. Obama will not be able to ultimately sweep this away....
I don’t see Trump dropping it either, in fact, I see him becoming a student of all this....
I tire of Beck. I can’t listen to his radio show as I can’t listen to Hannity’s either. They bore me....
On the other hand, I am still riveted listening to Rush.
We are living in an upside down world when Mr King Conspiracy Theory (he who can only get advertisers hawking gold, food insurance, bomb shelters) finds the BC issue to be a non issue.
“How much has Trump paid you to be his shill”?
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What an offensive comment, but pretty darn understandable coming from another coward like Beck, O’Reilley, most of the GOP and the Rats who want to deep six this issue. Sorry pal, it ain’t going away much as you and your ilk would like it to.
Go Trump! Hehe.
it was ok, but just that, a bit condescending perhaps. But I have noticed a trend with Beck and it is a blind side and almost rude. He seems to have a disdain for all of those in popular culture, when Liz Taylor died him and his crew on the radio were almost as bad as the Sternzee FM shock jocks, not a good word to say, that I find odd, given we find out she was a staunch supporter of Israel after her death.
Nasty, snarky, classless, tasteless comment unbefitting a Freeper.
Leni
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Suppose we flood the Beck show out with emails?
Proof positive that Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud and Obama is NOT a natural born citizen:
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This has nothing to do with being a shill. It has to do with ANY American’s right to free speech, to speak his or her mind, and most especially to the rule of law. Obviously, Beck has been sneering at this issue the past 2 years. Fine, he can sneer all he wants to, but he’d better never lecture me on the Constitution and the rule of law. The law is the law. Follow it,...or sneer at it. I am a patriot, a Conservative, and I follow the law. Had Congress and the states done so more than two years ago we might not be in the mess now. You want to be a shill for Beck and BOR, be my guest. I’ll follow the Constitution!
The truth is that we have no proof that Obama is even an American citizen!
The truth is that we no proof that Obama is a natural born citizen!
The **only** evidence available are Internet images of dubious origin, legally masturbated statements by Hawaiian officials that confirm NOTHING, and hearsay from Lingle!
“Believe”, “Believe”, “Believe”....When will we KNOW!
Everyone who wants to run for President should prove they are a natural born citizen.
I think Beck came so close to destroying his career on the “FEMA trains” that he is terrified of being on the wrong side of the birther issue. He has decided that 911 Truthers, FEMA trainers, and Birthers are all the same, move along. He can be pig headed or bull headed (choose your favorite farm animal) and is being so to the extreme on the Birther issue. I don't excuse it, but we can all be wrong sometimes. He is making a HUGE mistake here and it is hurting his ratings. He should just STFU when it comes to birthers until he wakes up.
They either have something on Beck or he’s playing with half his marbles. This guy will go on radio and TV everyday and scream Frances Fox Piven, they are going to collapse the system, chaos is just around the corner, the destruction of the United States is about to happen. However, Beck worries about “a little thing” of a birth certificate that Barack Obama can’t or will not show? Why Beck? Isn’t Barack Obama a tool of Soros and the hidden cabal that you rail against everyday? Here is a chance to expose Obama as an usurper that could remove the instrument of destruction of the United States and the world? What Beck preaches everyday and his position to protect Obama from exposure are incompatible. Something is wrong with this guy.
I never really got into Beck from the start, but gave him a chance about 12-18 months ago. About 10% of the stuff he does is excellent. But the other 90% reminds me of Jimmy Swaggart or some bad TV preacher.
I think Beck has a choice to either become a humorous commentator like Rush or continue with his doom and gloom preacher act. If he chooses the latter, he’ll sink into the ratings abyss over the next couple years and go the way of Phil Donahue, Morton Downey, Jr. or the like.
I fervently concur with your analysis. I’m leaning towards Mr. Trump being our best bet.
That's a pretty pathetic looking straw man you've erected there.
The very **minute** that Beck first bashed the proofers, I WAS DONE WITH BECK! ( Ann Coulter, too!)
Beck also **DELIBERATELY** misrepresented ( in three ways) Trump's posting of the hospital created birth certificate.
** Beck DELIBERATELY failed to mention that the next day Trump posted his long form birth certificate.
** Trump's hospital created form is a **real** form and available for examination. It has the **real** signature of the DOCTOR and the name of the hospital. No one at the hospital can deny that this form came from their maternity delivery room and the doctor's signature is this man's real signature! Contrast that with Obama’s fake Internet photoshop image.
** By posting this hospital generated certificate Trump highlighted the many deficiencies of Obama’s fake Internet image.
“Beck is a phony. He proclaims to be all for defending the Constitution but mocks and ridicules those who seek to defend the Constitution against the biggest Constitutional crisis of our time”.
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You are right about that, Beck, Hannity, Oreilly, et al are nothing more than phonies “acting” like they care about the direction this government is going, but in reality they are nothing more than low level entertainers like the rest of idiots the business. Why anyone believes anything that comes out of their mouths is beyond me, they have a script and cater to a segment of the population, mostly right leaning people, who supply them with the ratings they need to stay afloat, all the while parroting what their bosses tell them to. If they go too far, like the BC issue they are walking on dangerous territory and they’re reined in. They possess NO courage with their so called “convictions” otherwise they’ll be shown the door. Beck’s ratings are falling and I’m sure after last night’s display on “BORE” he will lose even more numbers. I say good riddance to the melodramatic phony who now shares company with the likes of BOR, NYSlimes, MSNBC, CNN and all the rest of the enemedia.
Something is wrong with this guy.
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Definitely! For all the reasons you stated.
Oh wow, that’s a good point. Ok, I must admit I’m now vacillating in my support for Mr. Trump.
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