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Video- Beck on O’Reilly, scoffs and sneers at Donald Trump
TrueblueNZ ^ | 04/02/11 | Redbaiter

Posted on 04/02/2011 6:11:47 AM PDT by wistful

I’m really over Glenn Beck. He persistently promotes himself as someone who cares about the US Constitution, yet here he is on the O’Reilly show sneering and scoffing and trying to belittle Donald Trump (on the BC issue) with as much gusto as any leftist. How can he do this and then be sincere in his professed concerns for the application of Constitutional law?

Trump is in the right, he’s brave, and we need to support him on this issue. If Beck cannot do that simple thing then he’s off my Christmas card list. There is absolutely no reason why Obama can not be hit on his BC and policy simultaneously, and there is not one shred of proof for the claim that Karl Rove so often makes, that Obama is setting the BC issue up as a diversion.

In my judgment, the Democrats and their media collaborators betray again and again that their attempts to downplay this issue are fake and they are really, underneath their smug and arrogant veneer, as worried as hell.

As I watched the segment today, I found my respect for Beck slipping quickly away. I just do not like him anymore.


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This is an edited version of the Beck O'Reilly discussion cut so as to only show that part relating to Trumps promotion of the birth certificate issue. Very disappointing to see this arrogance from beck.
1 posted on 04/02/2011 6:11:51 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

Link to video:

http://truebluenz.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/beck-on-oreilly-scoffs-and-sneers-at-donald-trump/


2 posted on 04/02/2011 6:14:15 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

How much has Trump paid you to be his shill?


3 posted on 04/02/2011 6:15:21 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: wistful

Rush usually gets it right 99% of the time. He now has an Obama BC song...Born in the USA.


4 posted on 04/02/2011 6:15:40 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: wistful

The other Epic Ego struts. A classic cockfight.


5 posted on 04/02/2011 6:16:53 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

“How much has Trump paid you to be his shill?”

Wow, that is a really offensive comment. I think the BC issue is important and I want the Berlin wall the media have built around the matter pulled down. I think Trump needs support for sticking his neck out the way he has. For you to allege I am taking money from Trump is just a cowardly and completely baseless smear unbecoming to this forum.


6 posted on 04/02/2011 6:21:06 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

Agreed! Beck was saying the exact things about Trump that people say about him (clownish, extreme on issues, etc.). And he’s ANOTHER one that totally dismisses the BC issue.

But his words on O’Reilly yesterday were outrageous! It was like if HE isn’t the one bringing an issue to light, it’s not worth talking about. I think I’m “over” him, too!


7 posted on 04/02/2011 6:21:27 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: wistful
Beck says at the end something like "I wish we could get candidates that are not provocative......"

If we applied the same standard to Beck he would not have much to say. Beck has not diminished much in my eyes because of this because I never held Beck in much esteem in the first place. In fact, he had become less and less to me as he gets more and more self-absorbed with himself.

We are still a long way out and Trump is doing a good thing by bringing up the birth certificate issue at this time.

8 posted on 04/02/2011 6:22:20 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: wistful

I have started to wonder since all of the Republicans seem to be working just as hard to mock birthers... if they don’t want their own complacency in the sham to be highlighted.


9 posted on 04/02/2011 6:22:59 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: wistful

Beck is a Libertarian and their god is Ron Paul. Isn’t that what most Libertarians do? Sneer at everyone but Paul?


10 posted on 04/02/2011 6:23:46 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

How much has Obama paid you to be his?


11 posted on 04/02/2011 6:23:58 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: wistful

I heard the exchange. I wouldn’t say that Beck scoffed or sneered; but he did question Trump’s braggadocio and the wisdom of saying some of the things that Trump has said. Which any sane person would do - remember this IS Donald Trump. He deserves a great deal of skepticism as a candidate, given a pretty spotty past.

BTW - I love some of the things that the Donald is saying right now, and I loved the birther issue brought up by Trump, but that doesn’t mean that Trump is an ethical, Constitution-following conservative presidential caliber candidate.


12 posted on 04/02/2011 6:26:55 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: isthisnickcool

“Beck says at the end something like “I wish we could get candidates that are not provocative......” “

Yes, exactly, and he finishes off by saying he wants the truth when Beck himself is actually hiding the truth and attacking those who want it brought into the open.

Also he actually misrepresents what Trump said on the Muslim angle. If I remember correctly, Trump was only speculating on a possible reason and not stating it as likely or a fact, as Beck tried to imply.


13 posted on 04/02/2011 6:27:23 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

It’s all about ratings and money with these idiots. I’m over Beck as well. Never watch his TV show anymore. I guarantee that these guys have a meeting together somewhere in the Fox offices and they say to each other something like “im not touching this birther issue because it will be the end of my career” that’s all these jerks care about is their shows and paychecks. Beck and O’reilly are frauds. And if birthers win the day, those idiots will have such egg on their face


14 posted on 04/02/2011 6:27:58 AM PDT by Free Per the Constitution
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To: Joann37

I don’t get it either.

As detail oriented as Beck is about obama and his associations, why doesn’t he realize that this presidency could be null and void if this constitutional requirement was taken seriously.

I mean, it is about the survival of our Republic, which Beck portrays himself as being all about.


15 posted on 04/02/2011 6:28:23 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: wistful

I do not understand people like this. It’s not enough for them to say (like Mark Steyn does) “I’m not a birther but they do have something to say, let’s talk about issues.” No, they have to sound exactly like the freaking Huffington Post.


16 posted on 04/02/2011 6:29:39 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Sir, I think Wistful is exactly correct that Trump should be defended by Freepers as he is only trying to get at the truth about our President’s eligibility. Why?..........then does this make Wistful a “shill” in your view?

One can only assume from your comment that you support Obama and his attorneys and his million dollar cover up effort? If so, you clearly are on the wrong forum........with all due respect..............


17 posted on 04/02/2011 6:30:01 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: wistful

I am beginning to agree. Beck is losing himself in egoland and becoming increasingly ineffective.

It is beyond absurd that he does not apply his famously intense research team to bust wide open the Obama fraud.

In fact, I would say it’s conspicuously strange that he does not...he who tells us do not be afraid to ask questions.

Yet here he is on the front row, ridiculing honest inquiry by Trump.

He is really hurting the Beack brand with this nonsense.

Wake up Glenn.

At least treat Trump with due respect for asking the questions that staying on millions of minds.


18 posted on 04/02/2011 6:30:22 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: SuzyQue

“I love some of the things that the Donald is saying right now, and I loved the birther issue brought up by Trump, but that doesn’t mean that Trump is an ethical, Constitution-following conservative presidential caliber candidate.”

Yes, that is fair criticism, but right now, I think we have to put that aside and support him, in order to persuade more real Conservatives to speak out on the BC issue as they should.


19 posted on 04/02/2011 6:30:44 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

Beck on O’Reilly, scoffs and sneers at Donald Trump

... so do I


20 posted on 04/02/2011 6:31:37 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Cen-Tejas

I have been a huge Glenn Beck fan since he moved to Fox ... but he is wrong on this, so much to the point that we all should send nice, polite emails to tell him how wrong he is.

Trump may be the only candidate that beat Obama. As much as I love Sarah, the media will destroy her. Bachmann is also a favorite but I am not sure she has what it takes to get over the finish line. Newt, Huck, Mitt, et al, - are you fricking kidding me?

We need to show Glenn that he is wrong about Trump. I think it would be great if Glenn would have Trump on for a whole hour and discuss the issues of the day.


21 posted on 04/02/2011 6:35:30 AM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: wistful

Any republican who is not now suspicious of this presidents birth issue are culpable.

After this little ditty by Trump, there are so many questions that you’d have to be Deaf, Dumb and Blind if you dint see a problem.


22 posted on 04/02/2011 6:35:54 AM PDT by crz
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To: Free America52

“so much to the point that we all should send nice, polite emails to tell him how wrong he is.”

I’ve done just that on frequent occasions. Beck seems completely impervious to reason on this issue.


23 posted on 04/02/2011 6:40:25 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

For you to allege I am taking money from Trump is just a cowardly and completely baseless smear unbecoming to this forum.

I agree.
Seems very alinsky like to me ... but that’s just me


24 posted on 04/02/2011 6:42:26 AM PDT by sawmill trash (We are definately a day closer to the end than we were yesterday)
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To: Bluebird Singing
I don’t get it either.

As detail oriented as Beck is about Obama and his associations,...

I agree. Beck loves to connect the dots. Perhaps Glenn, it too, fits into the puzzle which is Obama? Why does he throw this dot under the bus?

25 posted on 04/02/2011 6:49:20 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: wistful

Suddenly Trump, who has trashed Sarah Palin and gushes over Mayor Bloomberg and was pro-choice until about a month ago, is a conservative?


26 posted on 04/02/2011 6:49:26 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: wistful

Beck is a phony. He proclaims to be all for defending the Constitution but mocks and ridicules those who seek to defend the Constitution against the biggest Constitutional crisis of our time.


27 posted on 04/02/2011 6:49:55 AM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: wistful; LucyT; Red Steel
Beck says:

“If you don't believe he has a birth certificate, you can say ‘I don't believe he has a birth certificate.’”

Beck affirms that it is perfectly OK with him for Trump to say that Obama doesn't have a birth certificate if that is what Trump believes.

Beck's objection and mockery of Trump was regarding Trump's sloppy research in suggesting that Obama’s BC might say he was born a Muslim. As all FReepers know who have been following this issue, there is no religion field on the Long Form, which even the London Daily Mail was able to point out IIRC.

Trump undermined his credibility and seriousness on the issue by failing to do his homework or alternatively, it Trump knows there is no religion field on the BC, he was just being provocative to get attention, which is what both Beck and O’Reilly were pointing out as being counterproductive and undermining of the GOP. Do your homework, Trump!

What is most significant to me is that neither Beck nor O’Reilly slammed Trump for stating a belief that Obama did not have a BC, and neither one said “Obama already released it” or “The newspaper announcement prove he was born in HI”.

Again, Beck said “If you don't believe he has a birth certificate, you can say ‘I don't believe he has a birth certificate.’” O’Reilly said it was would be good for Trump to get in the race to shake things up.

Since O’Reilly wasn't referring to the “Muslim” suggestion by Trump, O’Reilly can only be expressing his actual approval of Trump raising questions about Obama’s failure to produce a 1961 BC, IMO.

28 posted on 04/02/2011 6:51:21 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: wistful

Same here, Beck has lost me, for this and other reasons.


29 posted on 04/02/2011 6:53:31 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: cycle of discernment
Wake up Glenn.

I think his viewers need to wake up. Seems The Constitution isn't really his thing. Seems he's been speaking with fork tongued. If one doesn't give a hoot about the requirements for being a president and belittles someone who does, I don't give a hoot about them. Hopefully, Trump keeps it up - it certainly is exposing those with a mask on.
30 posted on 04/02/2011 6:55:14 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: wistful

My God, is there no one....I mean is there no one, out there who can bypass this BS on the birth certificate and raise the issue of Natural Born Citizenship?

Trumps kids were born to Ivana and Donald Trump. Ivana was at the time NOT a US citizen, thusly their children would not be eligible to run for the presidency.

I doubt that there is a Hawaii birth certificate. There can’t be, because he wasn’t born in Hawaii. His grandma simply announced the birth that took place in Kenya, CAnada or who knows where.

Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Hannity, BOR, Beck... not one single person brings up the question mark about the guy’s school records...his writings his college...his social security questions etc....

One thing for sure, the BC issue will now NOT go away. It will be like the Swift Boat issue. Obama will not be able to ultimately sweep this away....

I don’t see Trump dropping it either, in fact, I see him becoming a student of all this....

I tire of Beck. I can’t listen to his radio show as I can’t listen to Hannity’s either. They bore me....

On the other hand, I am still riveted listening to Rush.


31 posted on 04/02/2011 6:55:19 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Worst president in my lifetime by far..... Hoping for -24 today.)
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To: wistful

We are living in an upside down world when Mr King Conspiracy Theory (he who can only get advertisers hawking gold, food insurance, bomb shelters) finds the BC issue to be a non issue.


32 posted on 04/02/2011 6:58:43 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Ge0ffrey

“How much has Trump paid you to be his shill”?
***************

What an offensive comment, but pretty darn understandable coming from another coward like Beck, O’Reilley, most of the GOP and the Rats who want to deep six this issue. Sorry pal, it ain’t going away much as you and your ilk would like it to.
Go Trump! Hehe.


33 posted on 04/02/2011 6:59:43 AM PDT by VeeP22
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To: wistful
Very disappointing to see this arrogance from beck.

it was ok, but just that, a bit condescending perhaps. But I have noticed a trend with Beck and it is a blind side and almost rude. He seems to have a disdain for all of those in popular culture, when Liz Taylor died him and his crew on the radio were almost as bad as the Sternzee FM shock jocks, not a good word to say, that I find odd, given we find out she was a staunch supporter of Israel after her death.

34 posted on 04/02/2011 7:00:43 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Ge0ffrey; wistful
"How much has Trump paid you to be his shill?"

Nasty, snarky, classless, tasteless comment unbefitting a Freeper.

Leni

35 posted on 04/02/2011 7:03:04 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Obama....you'll have to pry my incandescent lightbulbs from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: wistful

.

Suppose we flood the Beck show out with emails?

me@glennbeck.com

stu@glennbeck.com

Proof positive that Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud and Obama is NOT a natural born citizen:

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=natural+born+citizen&sa=Search#1115

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=fake+birth+certificate&sa=Search#1115

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36 posted on 04/02/2011 7:05:47 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Ge0ffrey

This has nothing to do with being a shill. It has to do with ANY American’s right to free speech, to speak his or her mind, and most especially to the rule of law. Obviously, Beck has been sneering at this issue the past 2 years. Fine, he can sneer all he wants to, but he’d better never lecture me on the Constitution and the rule of law. The law is the law. Follow it,...or sneer at it. I am a patriot, a Conservative, and I follow the law. Had Congress and the states done so more than two years ago we might not be in the mess now. You want to be a shill for Beck and BOR, be my guest. I’ll follow the Constitution!


37 posted on 04/02/2011 7:07:09 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: wistful
Beck: “...just by stating the truth.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The truth is that we have no proof that Obama is even an American citizen!

The truth is that we no proof that Obama is a natural born citizen!

The **only** evidence available are Internet images of dubious origin, legally masturbated statements by Hawaiian officials that confirm NOTHING, and hearsay from Lingle!

“Believe”, “Believe”, “Believe”....When will we KNOW!

38 posted on 04/02/2011 7:07:16 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wistful

Everyone who wants to run for President should prove they are a natural born citizen.


39 posted on 04/02/2011 7:09:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Seizethecarp
I agree with your assessment. When O’Reilly said Beck would be on to talk about Trump, I thought uh oh. Beck is screwed. O’Reilly is carrying water for Obama and looks to be chosen to discredit Trump, and he can USE Beck to his ends. BUT, one day later, O’Reilly had pulled back several notches. He didn't crush Beck using the birther issue as I expected he would. It looked as if O’Reilly got the message to lay off Trump. Beck was in a no win situation. Given that, he did the best he could stuck with his beliefs. I think Beck has gotten the message, to at least leave the birther issue alone. Here, he had no choice but to comment.

I think Beck came so close to destroying his career on the “FEMA trains” that he is terrified of being on the wrong side of the birther issue. He has decided that 911 Truthers, FEMA trainers, and Birthers are all the same, move along. He can be pig headed or bull headed (choose your favorite farm animal) and is being so to the extreme on the Birther issue. I don't excuse it, but we can all be wrong sometimes. He is making a HUGE mistake here and it is hurting his ratings. He should just STFU when it comes to birthers until he wakes up.

40 posted on 04/02/2011 7:11:11 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: wistful

They either have something on Beck or he’s playing with half his marbles. This guy will go on radio and TV everyday and scream Frances Fox Piven, they are going to collapse the system, chaos is just around the corner, the destruction of the United States is about to happen. However, Beck worries about “a little thing” of a birth certificate that Barack Obama can’t or will not show? Why Beck? Isn’t Barack Obama a tool of Soros and the hidden cabal that you rail against everyday? Here is a chance to expose Obama as an usurper that could remove the instrument of destruction of the United States and the world? What Beck preaches everyday and his position to protect Obama from exposure are incompatible. Something is wrong with this guy.


41 posted on 04/02/2011 7:14:14 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: wistful
Beck has been very good at seeing below the surface, reporting what he's discovered and connecting the dots, so I'm surprised he isn't applying the same techniques to obama’s seemingly phantom past. What's he afraid of? It's all part of the same story.
42 posted on 04/02/2011 7:14:37 AM PDT by GBA (Those who die with the most liberty...Win! Ever Vigilance: For the children.)
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To: Ditter

I never really got into Beck from the start, but gave him a chance about 12-18 months ago. About 10% of the stuff he does is excellent. But the other 90% reminds me of Jimmy Swaggart or some bad TV preacher.

I think Beck has a choice to either become a humorous commentator like Rush or continue with his doom and gloom preacher act. If he chooses the latter, he’ll sink into the ratings abyss over the next couple years and go the way of Phil Donahue, Morton Downey, Jr. or the like.


43 posted on 04/02/2011 7:14:45 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: Free America52

I fervently concur with your analysis. I’m leaning towards Mr. Trump being our best bet.


44 posted on 04/02/2011 7:15:43 AM PDT by MrInvisible
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To: Ge0ffrey
Suddenly Trump, who has trashed Sarah Palin and gushes over Mayor Bloomberg and was pro-choice until about a month ago, is a conservative?

That's a pretty pathetic looking straw man you've erected there.

45 posted on 04/02/2011 7:16:24 AM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: wistful
Also he actually misrepresents what Trump said on the Muslim angle.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The very **minute** that Beck first bashed the proofers, I WAS DONE WITH BECK! ( Ann Coulter, too!)

Beck also **DELIBERATELY** misrepresented ( in three ways) Trump's posting of the hospital created birth certificate.

** Beck DELIBERATELY failed to mention that the next day Trump posted his long form birth certificate.

** Trump's hospital created form is a **real** form and available for examination. It has the **real** signature of the DOCTOR and the name of the hospital. No one at the hospital can deny that this form came from their maternity delivery room and the doctor's signature is this man's real signature! Contrast that with Obama’s fake Internet photoshop image.

** By posting this hospital generated certificate Trump highlighted the many deficiencies of Obama’s fake Internet image.

46 posted on 04/02/2011 7:16:53 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Defend Liberty

“Beck is a phony. He proclaims to be all for defending the Constitution but mocks and ridicules those who seek to defend the Constitution against the biggest Constitutional crisis of our time”.
____________________

You are right about that, Beck, Hannity, Oreilly, et al are nothing more than phonies “acting” like they care about the direction this government is going, but in reality they are nothing more than low level entertainers like the rest of idiots the business. Why anyone believes anything that comes out of their mouths is beyond me, they have a script and cater to a segment of the population, mostly right leaning people, who supply them with the ratings they need to stay afloat, all the while parroting what their bosses tell them to. If they go too far, like the BC issue they are walking on dangerous territory and they’re reined in. They possess NO courage with their so called “convictions” otherwise they’ll be shown the door. Beck’s ratings are falling and I’m sure after last night’s display on “BORE” he will lose even more numbers. I say good riddance to the melodramatic phony who now shares company with the likes of BOR, NYSlimes, MSNBC, CNN and all the rest of the enemedia.


47 posted on 04/02/2011 7:17:12 AM PDT by VeeP22
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To: Red Steel

Something is wrong with this guy.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Definitely! For all the reasons you stated.


48 posted on 04/02/2011 7:19:14 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: hole_n_one

Then how about this one?

http://www.politicolnews.com/trump-gadafi-tent-uproar/


49 posted on 04/02/2011 7:19:43 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Seizethecarp

Oh wow, that’s a good point. Ok, I must admit I’m now vacillating in my support for Mr. Trump.


50 posted on 04/02/2011 7:19:47 AM PDT by MrInvisible
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