What's Obama's Birther Legal Bill?

Mother Jones ^ | 1-26-10 | Stephanie Mencimer

[STARWISE]

Someone please explain to me the legal imperative and judicial and ethical propriety of taxpayer funds via the work of US attorneys being expended to defend a potus, when the cause and premise of the lawsuits were initiated when the subject was but a candidate, legally worthy of verification of eligibility.

[STARWISE]

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[butterdezillion]

It’s the same reason why Saddam Hussein charged the widows for the bullets with which Saddam executed their husbands.

The bills we should be paying are the costs for the FBI to do their job of catching criminals.

See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

[Jet Jaguar]

Bump.

If the leftist MotherJones is talking about, it is getting to be a thorn in the lefties foot.

[STARWISE]

Thank you .. good info.

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Interesting comment for this article:

Stephanie Mencimer, I’ll give
Submitted by PJ Foggy (not verified) on Tue Jan. 26, 2010 8:46 AM PST.

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Stephanie Mencimer, I’ll give you a C+ for that article. There are a host of minor errors, but more important, you obviously didn’t check with the single most important website that debunks the Birthers, Politijab .

If you had, you would have learned of the Birther Case Scorecard, and learned that Obama only hired personal attorneys in 3 of the 64 Birther lawsuits.

Even if the federal government lawyers were spending a lot of time on these cases (which you accurately reported, they aren’t), that would result in no additional expense to the government. Both Roger West and Rebecca Ausprung receive the same salary no matter what cases they work on. Only if President Obama hires personal attorneys does the expense climb, and he hasn’t had to hire personal attorneys to work on these cases since he took office.

You missed one other important point, too.

Birthers have 3 main theories as to why he’s ineligible, of which you mention only one — that he may have been born in Kenya. Why didn’t you mention the theory that he lost his citizenship when he was “adopted” in Indonesia? Why didn’t you mention the theory that both your parents must be U.S. citizens for you to be a “natural born citizen”?

All the other MSM outlets that reported this story — Washington Post, UPI, New York Magazine, Washington Independent, etc. — contacted us at Politijab to get more accurate and complete information before writing their stories. Before you write about the Birthers again, give us a chance to educate you more fully.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/whats-obamas-birther-legal-bill#comments

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And they STILL overlook the admitted fact that
he’s the son of a Kenyan/UK citizen.

[hondact200]

I stumbled upon this letter on Saturday. Conressman Bobby L. Rush wrote a letter on January 11, 2010 regarding Bararack barry Soetoro finacial transcripts being released from Occidential College, Barry attended OC on through financial assistance as a international student from Indonesia. I accessed the letter at www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?letter_id=4501135561

[Dryman]

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”

[jwparkerjr]

If he's spending one penny more than the $10 or so it would take to bring all of this to a conclusion, one way or the other, then it's because he has something to hide. Once he spent $11 every penny after that is just further proof the pressure should not stop.

In a country where an subdivision homeowners’ association can foreclose on someone’s house, homesteaded property, because they haven't mowed the yard, or failed to paint it in an approved color scheme, or insist on flying an AMERICAN flag, it's pitiful that the President of the United States can thumb his nose at proving his eligibility.

[ncfool]

What was this Houston Texas newspaper trying to tell us back in June 2008 when it ran this masthead on their site?



Why during the election did this web site owner feel threatened enough to immediately pull the web site down frm the internet?

[Stosh]

So Ms. Mencimer spends 1,277 words on an article entitled “What’s Obama’s Birther Legal Bill?”, and so far as I can tell, she never answered her own question.

Hey, Stephanie, here’s another question you can avoid answering: “What’s the name of the doctor who attended Obama’s birth?”

[stephenjohnbanker]

Just add this to the 10,000 OTHER laws broken by this administration.

[wintertime]

I am surprised that Mother Jones is bring up the subject. By doing this they generate curiosity about his eligibility. ( Hm? Why would they do that?)

[rtbwood]

My sentiments exactly. If it’s not such a big deal, why are they bothering to write long articles about how frivolous these lawsuits are? I think there’s something there and the plaintiffs know it. Obama’s past is secretive and no one know anything about his education, his grades, who paid for it, how he went to Pakistan in 1981 when US citizens couldn’t go to Pakistan then. There’s a lot here and if the “free” press would do their job, perhaps we could find out that we have a man who has hijacked our presidency.

[FrankR]

"During Obama's 2008 run for the White House, his campaign and a host of other credible sources repeatedly debunked the conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and was thus ineligible to serve as president. "

"Credible sources?" His campaign, a "credible source"? Nothing has been debunked, only side stepped. Hawaii officials swear they have "seen" his birth certificate...well, we all have, but it's a worthly piece of forgery which is NOT the long form and proves nothing.


"But this failed to quell the "birther" movement, whose acolytes have filed more than 60 civil lawsuits challenging the president's citizenship. None of these suits have gone anywhere in court."

Where's there is smoke, there is fire...the mere fact that over 60 lawsuits have been filed, proves that. There exists "reasonable doubt" that has - for far - NOT been quelled by any of the obamaland attorneys and their "proof"...which is mostly lip service.


"But birthers say that's because Obama has unleashed a phalanx of powerful lawyers to silence them—spending $1.7 million in the process, according to WorldNetDaily (WND), an enthusiastic online promoter of the birthers' cause."

This, coming from "Mother Jones"...'nuff said.


"Given the sheer number of cases, it seems plausible that the president and the government may have been forced to devote real resources to their defense."

Then why doesn't the obamaTATOR produce some proof and stop this further burden on the courts?


"But in fact the opposite may be true: The birthers' own copious legal bungling could wind up costing them more than obama will have to spend defending himself. "

Wait...what exactly is obama defending himself from? Illegally witholding documentation to prove his eligibility as president. So far as I know, refusing to show one's birth certificate is NOT a crime...especially not one worthy of spending over a million dollars to HIDE.

But it is against the law and the Constitution to serve as the U.S. President without being a natual born citizen, and that is all the "birthers" want proven. These same people being labled as "birthers" were required by government and local officials at one time or another to show THEIR birth certificates...I'm 64 and recently had to show mine to sign up for Social Security.

So if the rest of us are required by governments to show OUR birth certificates, doesn't that then make the government a "BIRTHER" TOO? "

The old dem/liberal/progressive/populist/socialist double standard at full beam across the land.

I urge all those planning to attend the next Tea Party gathering in D.C. to make a reduced copy of your birth certificate...about the size of a drivers license, get get one of those I.D. lanyards at the local office supply, and proudly wear your birth certficate around your neck at the next gathering...with the slogan, "Hey, obama, we'll show you ours if you'll show us yours".

[onyx]

STARWISE. so he’s using government lawyers to defend him on “birther” related court appearances and legal work?

[ncfool]

WE THE PEOPLE HAVE STANDING IF THE US GOV IS PAYING HIS DEFENSE.

[STARWISE]

That was letter TO Rush

“Letters To Leaders”

[LucyT]

What's Obama's Birther Legal Bill?

If the leftist MotherJones is talking about, it is getting to be a thorn in the lefties foot.

[STARWISE]

Yes ..

“Assistant United States Attorney Chief, Civil Division ROGER E. WEST (State Bar No. 58609) Assistant United States Attorney First Assistant Chief, Civil Division

DAVID A. DeJUTE (State Bar No. 153527) Assistant United States Attorney Room 7516, Federal Building 300 North Los Angeles Street Los Angeles, California 90012 Telephone: (213) 894-2461/2574 Facsimile: (213) 894-7819 Email: roger.west4@usdoj.gov david.dejute@usdoj.gov Attorneys for Defendants”

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2336970/replies?c=121

[onyx]

Is that right?
Are you a lawyer?