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What's Obama's Birther Legal Bill?
Mother Jones ^ | 1-26-10 | Stephanie Mencimer

Posted on 01/31/2010 4:42:58 PM PST by STARWISE

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To: john mirse

How about you go on record with your theory, while you’re at it.


61 posted on 02/01/2010 10:04:22 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: az_gila

No, it would not.

The Birther argument is two-fold.

Part one is that he was not born in the US.

Part two is that he is not born of two US citizens (under their completely made-up theory of what a natural born citizen is). Producing a birth certificate would do nothing to end discussion on part two of their theory. And every major birther seems to subscribe to this theory.

So, if the birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii to a Kenyan and an American, do the birthers go away? Of course not.


62 posted on 02/01/2010 10:11:38 AM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: MrRobertPlant2009

Actually there is a third rail: the massive file of hidden from the public documents referencing his life as an Indonesia, college entry records, grades, tuition paid by whom (we know some of that came from Islamic sources), and the record of his leagl names.


63 posted on 02/01/2010 10:14:34 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: STARWISE

A majority of Obama eligibility lawsuits do not even name Obama as the defendant. For example, of the 7 lawsuits that made it to the US Supreme Court for justices’ conference there was: (1) Berg v Obama (Obama’s lawyers chose not to submit a brief to Justice Souter); (2)Craig v US (did not name Obama as defendant); (3)Donofrio v Wells (did not name Obama as defendant); (4)Herbert v Obama et. al (Obama presented no defense in the Federal Court for Middle Florida or at the US Supreme Court); (5)Lightfoot v Bowen (Obama not named as a defendant); (6)Schneller v Cortes (Obama not named as a defendant); and (7)Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz (Obama not named as a defendant).
There is no legal expense when you are not named as a defendant.
As far as I can tell, Obama has had attorneys for 3 out of 64 eligibility lawsuits: Berg v Obama, Holliser v Soetoro and Keyes v Bowen. Since none of these lawsuits has gone to trial and have been dismissed, the legal expenses are minimal.
Once the Chief Justice swore Barack Obama in, the Justice Department handles all legal issues for the president. There appear to be an additional seven lawsuits in which Justice Department attorneys filed briefs.
When somebody sues you, you have to respond.
But even at the state court level, most of the suits do not name Obama personally. A few more examples of Obama eligibility suits that do not name Obama as the defendant: Ankeney et. al v Mitch Daniels, the Governor of Indiana (Strange bedfellows suit: the Republican Attorney General of Indiana defended the Governor and Obama); Beverly v FEC; Brockhousen v Andrade; Broe v Reed; Connerat v Browning; Constitution Party v Lingle, The Governor of Hawaii; Cook v Good, Marquis v Reed...on and on I could go...


64 posted on 02/01/2010 10:15:41 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

If I had to guess, I would think the entire Obama birther legal bill is less than $10,000 and most of that is probably travel costs for DOJ attorneys. (And travel/coffee costs for the Attorney General who to fly from California to Georgia in order to “fix” one of the cases...in a coffee shop).


65 posted on 02/01/2010 10:17:47 AM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: STARWISE
Someone please explain to me the legal imperative and judicial and ethical propriety of taxpayer funds via the work of US attorneys being expended to defend a potus, when the cause and premise of the lawsuits were initiated when the subject was but a candidate, legally worthy of verification of eligibility.

All of the cases mentioned in the article were filed after Obama was sworn in. The U.S. Attorney's Office represents the president in any civil matters.

66 posted on 02/01/2010 10:20:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t understand why people are so hung up on how he afforded college.

I attended a school with a total cost in the $28,0000 range and my parents were probably making about $65,000 combined then. I finished after four years with somewhere in the neighborhood of $10K in student loans - or what it would have cost me to buy a Hyundai back then.

This will sound crazy, but if you are poor, it is much cheaper to go to an expensive private school than to a more reasonable private school.

Obama - as a strong minority candidate duringe the height of affirmative action in admissions and financial aid offices - probably had people begging for the opportunity to give him money.


67 posted on 02/01/2010 10:22:30 AM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: hondact200

Bump.


68 posted on 02/01/2010 10:25:23 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: hondact200

Bump post #6.


69 posted on 02/01/2010 10:25:58 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: STARWISE

Where is the transparency, Mr President?


70 posted on 02/01/2010 10:27:24 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: MrRobertPlant2009

Give him money as a foregin student or as an affirmative action black kid? You see, his legal name when his mother was seeking a divorce from Mister Soetoro was Barry Soetoro and she obtained her divorce in the second year of Barry attending Occidental college. Has he ever changed his name legally to Barack Hussein Obama? and By what name/nationality did he obtain college funding from al Mansour the radical black islamacists?


71 posted on 02/01/2010 10:31:22 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MrRobertPlant2009

Since the work to bury his records had to have started as far back as 2007, to calculate the real cost of fighting exposure one would need to include the money spent on detectives, lawyers, operatives, literally around the world. And add to that, the graft sent to places like Indonesia to get their support in hiding his records from anyone looking.


72 posted on 02/01/2010 10:42:15 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MrRobertPlant2009; Drew68; Non-Sequitur; james777

Hey guys, did the staff meeting just let out??? or did you all just come out of the same head together????


73 posted on 02/01/2010 10:46:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I get this image of a bunch of obamanoids sitting in a room in the basement of a Washington office building, reading from a chart of responses wrapped on their wrist, like a quarterback in a huddle.


74 posted on 02/01/2010 10:50:50 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The U.S. Attorney’s Office represents the president in any civil matters.

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Including cases that were begun before the election ?


75 posted on 02/01/2010 10:54:37 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: MHGinTN
Give him money as a foregin student or as an affirmative action black kid?

There are virtually no financial aid programs for foreign students, and lots of programs for black American students. If you can show otherwise, have at it.

You see, his legal name when his mother was seeking a divorce from Mister Soetoro was Barry Soetoro

I assume you have some actual evidence of this, right? I mean, something more than an old school ledger?

76 posted on 02/01/2010 11:13:12 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Loosen your kneepads, bubba. When you ‘assume’ it shows you’re full of donkey meat.


77 posted on 02/01/2010 11:18:11 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’ll take that as your concession, then.


78 posted on 02/01/2010 11:23:31 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Whatever, obamanoid.


79 posted on 02/01/2010 11:27:00 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Your tinfoil hat must be extra tight today, birther.


80 posted on 02/01/2010 11:29:18 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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