Posted on 08/28/2008 6:34:55 AM PDT by Renfield
~~~snip~~~ Electromagnetic waves are far too slow to be the only means of signalling in an immense universe. Gravity requires the near-instantaneous character of the electric force to form stable systems like our solar system and spiral galaxies. Gravitationally, the Earth ‘sees’ the Sun where it is this instant, not where it was more than 8 minutes ago. Newton’s famous law of gravity does not refer to time.
We must have a workable concept of the structure of matter that satisfies the observation that the inertial and gravitational masses of an object are equivalent. When we accelerate electrons or protons in an electromagnetic field they become less responsive to the fields the more they are accelerated. This has been interpreted as an increase in particle mass, which is unhelpful until we understand the origin of mass. If the charged subtrons have little intrinsic mass, how do they, in combination, give the electron, proton and neutron the property of mass?
An electric field will transversely squash the subtron orbits within an electron or proton. If you cause acceleration at one point in a circular orbit and a deceleration at the diametrically opposite point of the orbit, the result is an elliptical orbit. In the case of an accelerated particle, the orbit will tend to flatten in the direction of the applied force. It seems that as more energy is supplied to accelerate the particle, the more that energy is assimilated inelastically in further distortion rather than in acceleration. In other words, the electric force becomes less and less effective at acceleration, which Einstein would have us interpret as an increase in mass. For comparison, Weber’s classical approach to the problem has “a decrease in the electrical force and not a change in the inertial mass.”[16] This model implies that the charge centres of a proton at rest are more separated than those in an electron at rest. That allows the proton to distort more readily than an electron in the same electric field and may account for their classical differences in size and mass. “The advantage of this interpretation of the conversion of mass into energy and vice versa is that we are not forced to accept the increase of mass to infinity as a moving mass approaches the speed of light.”[17]...
What is gravity?
Gravity is due to radially oriented electrostatic dipoles inside the Earth’s protons, neutrons and electrons.[18] The force between any two aligned electrostatic dipoles varies inversely as the fourth power of the distance between them and the combined force of similarly aligned electrostatic dipoles over a given surface is squared. The result is that the dipole-dipole force, which varies inversely as the fourth power between co-linear dipoles, becomes the familiar inverse square force of gravity for extended bodies. The gravitational and inertial response of matter can be seen to be due to an identical cause. The puzzling extreme weakness of gravity (one thousand trillion trillion trillion trillion times less than the electrostatic force) is a measure of the minute distortion of subatomic particles in a gravitational field....
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But as I read this particular article, I'm pretty sure that this is made-up gobbledy-gook.
http://www.geocities.com/kingvegeta80/pseudoscience.html
Given the fact that, despite the neo-Velikovskians' claims to the contrary, the standard stellar model is so successful at explaining the observations while the Electric Star model is rife with problems and outright violations of basic physics, it is understandable why the former enjoys unanimous support in the scientific community, while the latter is considered a pseudoscience.
Did you read the entire article?
IMHO there’s a LOT going on on the other side of absolute zero that we (meaning current top quantum physics researchers, whose explanations the rest of us try to get the gist of) don’t know squat about. Science will eventually locate “God”, most likely on the other side of that absolute zero wall, or comfortably hanging out on both sides simultaneously.
Really? Do you think so? Every test of general relativity has delivered results that support the theory. Among the assumptions of theory is the assumption that gravity travels at the speed of light.
You don’t have to read much of it before some nauseating violation of basic science appears.
Um...huh?
Einstein's law of gravity does refer to time. Einstein's law of gravity is called "General Relativity". In experiments designed to detect differences between Newtonian and relativistic predictions Dr. Einstein has yet to lose.
Thanks for posting that.
Likewise, when someone claims that stars aren't powered by nuclear fusion, that the Grand Canyon wasn't formed by erosion but rather in moments by a giant bolt of lightning which was created when another planet was passing nearby, and that the planet Venus was spit out of a planet called "Proto-Saturn", there's no need to look further.
He's a nut.
Just to clarify, are you saying this “nut” is associated with Scientology?
You should read this:
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=x49g6gsf
The man’s not a nut; he’s exposing flaws in current theory, and goring some sacred cattle in the process.
Thornhill is in no way associated with Scientology. Rosenfan is engaging in a standard tactic of debunkers....red herring arguments and ad-hominem attacks.
No, not at all. It was just the first example of weird beliefs that came to mind. It could just as easily been ESP, astrology, creationism, etc.
What does this theory predict and where is the experimental evidence to back it up?
I never said he was. I was simply pointing the lack of credibility one has when one advocates crazy beliefs that fly in the face of reality. The "Electric Universe" of Thornhill is one such example. Scientology is another. Feel free to use any other nonsensical system of belief or pseudoscience such as astrology, creationism, Illuminati conspiracy theories, etc.
If I had said he was associated with Scientology, you'd be correct.
Since I didn't, you're not.
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