Posted on 07/11/2008 8:39:42 PM PDT by freespirited
Read 11 and 12.
We are being distracted and concentrating on BS and avoiding the real issues.
Have a good weekend!
I would like an analysis that is less verbose on issues not related directly to the technical facts.
1. Source document
2. Suspect parts of the document
3. Why the parts are suspect
4. Pictures of the suspect parts (preferably compared to known legitimate examples)
The Dan Rather/Mary Mapes/TANG memo analysis worked because bloggers (with expertise) showed 1-4, above, and then some.
IF Stanley Ann was married to a foreign national, and IF Barak was born in Kenya, then he is not automatically a US citizen.
IF he was born outside the US, its possessions and territories, he may not be constitutionally qualified for the office, even if he is a citizen.
Lawyers are debating that very issue as we speak.
Wow, all settled!
Meanwhile the New York Slimes and Washington ComPost are questioning McCain if he’s eligible to become president, and ignoring the Obama birth certificate scam.
We know McCain wasn’t born in the US, its territories, or possessions.
Was Obama?
So, are we going to have to establish a market of FReeper Obama credits? As in, those who follow the birth certificate story will need to purchase Marxist credits from those who only post on the BC threads to trash we who aren’t posting Obama Marxist threads, but yet don’t post the Marxist threads they accuse us of not posting in lieu of posting birth certificate threads?
Ping
Apparently he has something to hide.
Little confused here. What document proves Senator Obama's "natural born" citizenship due to parentage? As far as I can tell, no official document has been made public proving Senator Obama's; time/date of birth, place of birth, or parents.
Not only is this proof a Constitutional requirement, but it should be easy for the Senator to provide. But as of now I do not believe he has done so.
I could easily have missed something. So again I ask: Has any official document been made publicly available proving Senator Obama's; parentage, place of birth, and date/time of birth?
Since his dad was “married” to an African woman concurrently, does US law even recognize his “marriage” to Stanley as valid?
Wouldn’t it be bigamy or polygamy?
Polygamy.
But polygamy is legal in Kenya. If she was married in Kenya, that would make it a valid marriage.
I’m given to understand that push come to shove, US courts will err on the side of recognizing such a marriage.
BUT a Kenyan marriage puts a pregnant Stanley Ann in KENYA.
Here’s the kicker, IF Obama was born in Kenya to an American mom, he would only be presumed to be a US citizen ONLY IF she WASN’T married to a Kenyan. Otherwise he would be a Kenyan by birth.
If she wasn’t married, he’d be a bastard, but he’d be an AMERICAN bastard, under current law.
BUT keep in mind that if he is a bastard, under the laws that were in force AT THE TIME OF BIRTH, he wouldn’t qualify as a citizen, due to his mom not satisfying the age and residency requirements.
But that’s OK, because under current law he would be an American by birth if Stanley Ann wasn’t married, and he was born in Kenya.
And if that’s not enough even if he is a citizen by birth, he may or may not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a natural born citizen. What exactly that turn of phrase means is the subject of a rather lively debate at the moment.
Now, imagine explaining that to a typical voter. Politically this is a non-starter.
Of course, if he can produce any valid documentation proving a Honolulu birth, it’s all moot...
"Your search - Barack Obama "Birth Certificate" - did not match any documents.Suggestions:
Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.
Why do I suddenly feel that the old Soviet Union is alive and well in the United States? Data is being erased by not being indexed. These images were there a week agonow they are not.
BUT keep in mind that if he is a bastard,
***Easy enough to do, thanks.
Down the memory hole. A warm draught of air, then nothing...
Check out this threadsomething is going on.
Thread about missing Birth Certificate images in Google searches.
Rats.
My eyes are bleeding, now.
:)
Wrong. Barak could have been born on the Moon and his father a foreign national, but if Mother was US citizen who had lived in U.S. at least 5 years in lifetime, then he is natural born citizen. United States Code, Title 8, sec 1401.
Lawyers debate every law, include the Law of Gravity. Why? Because people pay us to!
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