Ted Nugent: ‘Best’ if South had won Civil War

Seattle Post intelligencer ^ | July 6, 2012 | N/A

[central_va]

rally stupid = really stupid

[raulgomez05]

Also, the so-called Anti-Slavery people were against the spread of slavery because they did not want blacks in the new territories and states....they used “anti-slavery” to cover their own racism. They were no saints. They treated blacks just as bad as Southern plantation owners.

Was Abraham Lincoln one of these racists?

[drpix]

"I’ve always thought that “stay in our group or we will kill you” is a clear signal to get out of the group ASAP."

I don't get what you are referring to. Please explain!

[Irenic]

Thanks!

[dagogo redux]

The proper course for history would have been for our Founding Fathers not to found. The compromises worked into the Constitution to accommodate the slave states essentially kicked the can down the road, and all but insured the Civil War.

I believe, had two nations been formed, or none, or a northern one and a handful of separate, sovereign states/countries in the south, that the forward course would have been better for the people of this continent.

And yes, the southern states would eventually have ended slavery, as did all European-derives countries. The slave trade had been going on for many centuries run by Moslems and Black Africans before any Europeans got involved, and it went on (run by those same people) for many centuries after European people ended it, having found it incompatible with their Christianity and their basic ideas of fundamental individual liberty.

[Alas Babylon!]

It's like this: Most of that Fed money is going to poor, rural blacks as entiltements. The other large chunk is to military bases: there happens to be a lot of them in the South because we have huge chunks of undeveloped land for the GI's to play in, we're not wearing our disdain for the miilitary like Northern liberals do, and the weather is more amenable to training, flying, etc.

Bu t let's talk about race. There happens to be a lot more poor, rural blacks in the South than anywhere else in the country.

If you took a look at the FBI crime statistics by race, say, here in Alabama, and then you took out the black on black and black on white crime (despite what Yankees think there's VERY little white on black crime) Alabama would have the crime statistics of North Dakota!

Now don't take me wrong! I'd love to see the black folks of Barbour, Butler, Bullock, Dallas, Lowndes, Macon, Merengo, and Wilcox counties get steady middle class level work... But that's not going to happen when the FedGov is passing them “free” money. It will happen when the FedGov gets business friendly by cutting corporate income taxes, all kinds of regulations, and those county governments themselves getting business friendly.

BTW, I work with the Chamber of Commerces in two Alabama counties: Elmore and Bullock. Bullock is 70% black. Bullock county is not business friendly. We're trying to change that. The chamber president and staff are black, but they despair over the attitude most of their fellow blacks have of business.

[napscoordinator]

I am not saying the South likes taking all the money from the North to survive. But if they don’t take it, how will they be able to stand on their own? That is all I am asking. It would be a disaster for the South to be either on their own or in charge as some of you desire. It sounds cool but reality would not be cool.

[central_va]

I am not saying the South likes taking all the money from the North to survive. But if they don’t take it, how will they be able to stand on their own? That is all I am asking

The Fed money is going to unintiated lazy welfare frauds and food stamps losers. We want it to stop. Get it? The south would be better off not taking the money and forcing people back to work. Get it? We are tired of the Feds giving money away to buy votes. Get it?

[napscoordinator]

The south would be better off not taking the money and forcing people back to work.

Unfortunately people in the South tend to be lazier then then people in the North who are hard working....Good luck with your dream of a working South.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Fact: Very few people in the South owned slaves.

Fact: The reason slavery died out in the North was due to industrialization not altruism.

Fact: Fast evolving mechanization would have soon made slavery defunct in the South as it did in the North.

Fact: We are all slaves now Dude.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Oh yeh the welfare states of NY, Mass, NJ, IL with section 8 housing and food stamps are so hard working. Get a life.

[Alas Babylon!]

Unfortunately people in the South tend to be lazier then then people in the North who are hard working....

Whites? Not really. Look at the demographics.

Unemployemnt and entitlement figures show white Southerners to be on less entitlements than Northern whites.

[napscoordinator]

Oh darn. You caught the truth and you did’t like it. Poor baby.

[Vermont Lt]

Slavery was abolished in Mass in 1780. Not exactly an industrial power at that point.

I am not a moron. I understand that the EP freed no one in the north.

Why can’t you rebels just agree that slavery was an abomination, and you are happy it was outlawed.

People reading these threads just shake their heads at the fact that the supporters of the CSA just cannot bring themselves to agree with abololition.

It’s kind of sad really. Why is it so difficult?

[mark8express]

...You will know them by the fruits they bare...Many years and then many more years ago there was such a thing know as the Circus Maximus. It revolved around one key theme which was the act of Christians killing other Christians...The Civil war indeed !...That there have been many wars since the Circus Maximus is true , and now it would seem that many of these other wars also involved Christians killing other Christians...or , has the learned public been blinded once again by spectacle and politic and lost the ability to actually see that which has taken place before their very eyes.
That there is a very powerful and controlling entity upon the planet should be apparent,however,there are many among us that still adamantly refuse to accept this factual reality but instead rely solely upon the dribble fed to them by total strangers and those that inhabit higher office.
What you as a Christian must do is to bring forward those events of the past and see them anew in the bright light of today...What was then seen as crystal clear and undeniable truth now appears dull and tarnished within this new light,just as those heroic efforts and sacrifice made by our ancestors now become only so much joy and amusement for those that mean us harm. BEWARE !
So, you see the Civil war between the North and South as a battle against slavery when in fact it was only a newer episode of the Circus Maximus and once again the spectacle of Christians killing other Christians. This war was the first of many with the same predictable justifications and outcome,so,before you comment please dig a little deeper.
All were victims of these so called wars and it is your duty as a Christian to never let this kind of tragedy take place from now till the end of time...Now is not the time to turn our swords against one another, as there are many others today that are more benefiting of its sting.

[napscoordinator]

States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47
4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92
10. Maine: $1.78

Obviously the proof is there. DC and Maine are the only Northern states that are sucking the teet of the Government. The rest are on their own....The South gets tons of funds.

[napscoordinator]

States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47
4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92
10. Maine: $1.78

I have proof!!!!! Now get out of the corner feeling bad...it is not that big a deal.

[Vermont Lt]

I never suggested the EP freed anyone in the north. Slavery was abolished in my state when we adopted our constitution in 1780. No wars,. No one got killed.

And I simply cannot understand why none of you can utter the words that slavery was wrong. Without it, there would have been no war.

[Georgia Girl 2]

I don’t see GA on that list. Oh yeh I forgot we have a AAA credit rating from Moodys. One of only 7 states in the US. Where do you stand Genius?

[CatherineofAragon]

"By the way, I lived in the North my entire life and I actually see Southern folks talking down about Northern people, but people in the North tend to be secure and can rise above people from the South talking down to them."

LOL

Naps, you've got yourself a good case of anti-Southern bigotry going on there. What happened? Did somebody from Dixie do you wrong at some point?

The only time Southerners "talk about" Northerners, so to speak, is when SOME (not all, mind) of them come down here, all self-important, overbearing, and ill-mannered, presuming to tell us how to live. You know, sort of like you're behaving right now. Only it's not so much "talking about" as laughing at, and letting you go on your windbag way.