Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Well then, there's nothing to worry about, the kid has two parents, he's a USC just as you want him to be, 'Dreams From My Father' is gospel, so why aren't you out in the garden growing tomatoes or something, instead of hanging around here?
Btw, you really must stop trying to put words in my mouth, never at any time did I suggest there was 'a different baby at the same address...' in fact, I've gone out of my way to repeat what the Pratt daughter said; she doesn't recall a woman with a baby while she lived there with her parents.
Why are you so terrified of everything I write? It's not as if I'm not supplying sources at every possible opportunity, and I'm always making it clear that mine is the scientific approach. I REPORT YOU DECIDE. Every hypotheses needs to be tested and exposed to scrutiny. So why not mine?
If it was for people like you, we would still be burning 'heretics' at the stake, for trying to show that yes, the Sun remains still, it's the Earth that moves. You're not the centre of the universe.
If I were you, I wouldn't be staking too much on that form, you could take it to court, but it might just be more suitable for the toilet.
All he's realy managed to do here is turn Ann S Obama from the Hawaii Polk into Ann S Dunham. And you still don't know who she is. And it's the 31st of August 1961 and Ann S Obama or Ann S Dunham hasn't had a child yet?
“Maraniss definitively states that ‘[Dunham] and Obama and the infant never lived [at 6085 Kalanianole].’ There was no room. The senior Dunhams shared the house with the Pratt family. The Pratt daughter ‘has no memory of the Dunhams’ daughter bringing an infant home.’”
I agree that there is NO evidence that after giving birth Stanley Ann and Barry set foot in Hawaii prior to the fall of 1962 when she returned from spending a year at U of WA. There is NO evidence that BHO Sr. and Ann ever lived together before or after Barry was born, so the foregoing is totally consistent with the Maraniss account. Maraniss is debunking the “happy little family for two years in HI” myth of Dreams.
The 8/31/61 Wood memo records BHO Sr. CLAIMING that his wife (that he named as Ann S. Dunham) was living with her parents. At the time witnesses place Stanley Ann and Barry in Seattle. This INS FOIA document is verifiable evidence of what BHO Sr. CLAIMED, and not what ACTUALLY happened.
Maraniss does NOT dispute that Stanley Ann lived at that address with her parents prior to the marriage reported to INS as being on Feb 2, 1961. Maraniss only disputes that BHO Sr, Ann and Barry ever lived together with her parents.
If Stanley Ann went to Kenya to have the baby between February and August, and then went to Seattle without returning to Hawaii, the Pratt daughter would never remember the Dunham daughter bringing a baby home consistent with what Maraniss states. That could be very telling.
Note also that Maraniss doesn’t say that the Pratt daughter doesn’t REMEMBER the Dunham daughter, but only that she doesn’t remember the daughter bringing a baby home.
Note also that the Pratt daughter doesn’t apparently remember the Dunham daughter being PREGNANT!!! The U of HI officials reported to INS (page 39 dated 4/21/61) that BHO Sr. had married Stanley Ann DUNHAM. Where was she between Feb 2 and late August? That is the question.
seizethecarp
Many thanks for that information.
Polk directory pictures in posts #11352 and #11354, plus the FOIA page 35 form and FOIA Wood memo in post #11360 validate the position that there was only one woman named Ann(a) S. Obama (maiden name Dunham) in that time period 1961.
Polk directory picture in post #11352 connects the maiden name Dunham and the married name Obama via the address.
A question about the Polk: why no problem with Madeline vs. Madelyn?
(Answer, it was most likely an error, just like Anna vs. Ann)
Question #2 about the Polk directory
Could it have been a mailing address?
I pray that we can get to the bottom of this ;)
And that's where you have a major problem, you're so invested in the kenya birth you can't see the trees for the forest. To insist on the kenya birth, you'll have to do a lot better than IF.
I'll give you an IF. What IF Stanley Ann Dunham never had a baby? What IF the reason she didn't know how to change it's diaper as Susan said, was because the child wasn't hers? What IF she took it to Boston and left it there? And what IF the son the kenyan told his Harvard associates he visited a number of times, was his son by Anna Obama, the woman from whom he was separated who had returned to the Philippines, and what IF that was the child they considered having adopted?
Is that enough IFS for now?
And stop trying to twist Anna Obama into an asian woman. What IF she had relatives in the Philippines and her ancestry was SPANISH? What IF she had family in Hawaii...
WHAT IF THE TWO LITTLE BOYS HAD THEIR PHOTO TAKEN IN BOSTON? ANY IFS YOU CAN DO I CAN DO BETTER:
Which boy looks like the kenyan student was his father?
Congratulations, you are becoming a sycophant. Beats thinking, I guess. There’s something so scary about the idea that Stanley Ann wasn’t anyone’s biological mother until she had Maya, it sends folks into a frenzy of denial...it even leads into the bedroom of Frank Marshall Davis, air tickets paid for by the KGB, and erotic photographs taken years before SAD left high school, of a model with a superficial resemblance to Stanley Ann Dunham.
Thanks for the ping. Jerome Corsi thinks it was Stanley Ann in Seattle, taking classes. It would take an investigator even better than Corsi to prove otherwise.
Seizethecarp,
Good analysis.
Fred, seizethecarp
How would it change things if the word “Kenya “ ( in the snippet of seizethecarp’s post below) was replaced with “elsewhere”?
“....If Stanley Ann went to Kenya to have the baby between February and August,and then went to Seattle without returning to Hawaii,the Pratt daughter would never remember the Dunham daughter bringing a baby home consistent with what Maraniss states. That could be very telling.
Note also that Maraniss doesn’t say that the Pratt daughter doesn’t REMEMBER the Dunham daughter,but only that she doesn’t remember the daughter bringing a baby home.
Note also that the Pratt daughter doesn’t apparently remember the Dunham daughter being PREGNANT!!! The U of HI officials reported to INS (page 39 dated 4/21/61) that BHO Sr. had married Stanley Ann DUNHAM. Where was she between Feb 2 and late August? That is the question.”
How’s about you do some reading and some research, and a little bit of thinking...instead of expecting someone else to answer everything you think you need to know. And then when they do answer to the best of their ability or knowledge with links and sources, off you go running to someone else?
Ask your mentor where she was. He’ll tell you she was in Kenya having a baby and the KGB paid for her ticket. Or her father had an affair with a black barmaid and Madelyn brought up the child when her husband brought it home like a stray cat.
The question isn’t where was she between this and that, the question is WHO SAW HER IN HAWAII AT ALL, BEFORE 1963.
Case in point:
you had no idea the Pratt daughter existed, or that the Pratts shared the house with the Dunhams, until I posted the directory listings and the excerpt and link to the article, did you?
Did you?
Yet you have the gall to jump in and question the information without the time it takes to blink, let alone think about it.
And then you want MORE information from me? Where I come from, we have a saying that covers such behaviour. We ask, AND WHEN DID YOUR LAST SLAVE DIE?
There are drama queens on the thread. Pay no attention to them. Your approach appears to be to think about things & then throw questions out for consideration & possible discussion. Nothing in the world wrong w that. It’s a discussion forum, after all. Carry on.
It’s a discussion forum is it?
And you post funnies like an address to goodness knows where, and when I ask, what was that, you post LOL!
Brilliant.
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“Woe to the worthless shepherd, who deserts the flock! May the sword strike his arm and his right eye! May his arm be completely withered, his right eye totally blinded!”
They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling out to each other: “’We played the pipe for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not cry.’
I’m closing down, going out for the rest of the day, there’s really only so much BS I can stand in one dose.
Nope; but good to see you quoting Scripture anyway.
“WHAT IF THE TWO LITTLE BOYS HAD THEIR PHOTO TAKEN IN BOSTON?”
That picture BHO Sr. and Ruth Baker Obama’s two mixed race boys, David, about age 3 (the one that looks much like but different from Barry) and Mark, about age 5, taken circa 1970 actually COULD have been taken in Boston if Ruth took them to visit her parents.
This picture has been corroborated as being of Mark and David by Mark and Malik and can doubtless be verified in court to be so if it ever came to that.
Only the delusional Mal-Val narrative contends that the boy on the left (David) is baby POTUS Barry and the boy on the right (Mark) was a hidden son of BHO Sr. by the missing “wife in the Philippines” also named BHO II at birth but stripped of that name and becoming Roman Obama.
The resemblance of baby David to baby POTUS Barry is excellent circumstantial confirming evidence that they are half-brothers with the same father, BHO Sr.
And the reason he looks so much like zero IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHO HE IS, that's who you are looking at, FOUR TIMES.
“Thou shalt not bear false witness.”
IMO, it is especially heinous to lie about the identity of baby David (RIP), the boy in the upper right.
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