1973 Instructions for Form 1040
And btw, where was 3 year old Maya? Did the Dunhams also claim her as a dependent?
Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
“Relative? Who would he be?
It’s too far back for me to remember exactly, I think I recall he was identified by a freeper as the son of Charles T Payne, but I can’t be certain. The image came without an identifying caption.
btw, I found the article that repeats some of what Susan Blake had to say:
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2008-08-21/politics/36783984_1_barack-obama-hawaii-barry-obama
“She was on her way from her mother’s house to Boston to be with her husband,” Botkin recalled. “[She said] he had transferred to grad school and she was going to join him. And I was intrigued with who she was and what she was doing. Stanley was an intense person . . . but I remember that afternoon, sitting in my mother’s living room, drinking iced tea and eating sugar cookies. She had her baby and was talking about her husband, and what life held in store for her. She seemed so confident and self-assured and relaxed. She was leaving the next day to fly on to Boston.”
But as Botkin and others later remembered it, something happened in Cambridge, and Stanley Ann returned to Seattle. They saw her a few more times, and they thought she even tried to enroll in classes at the University of Washington, before she packed up and returned to Hawaii.
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Though Obama Had to Leave to Find Himself, It Is Hawaii That Made His Rise Possible
By David Maraniss,August 21, 2008
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Note the date...it was written just before Rick Anderson wrote in October that she was living in Seattle, and that was followed by Charlette Le Fevre’s discovery of the listing for Anna Obama in the Seattle directory.
Now. what’s really fascinating is, Susan Blake sounding so convinced she was going to Boston. The Kenyan didn’t leave Hawaii until June 22, 1962. Are we to take it that Stanley Ann took the child she showed to Susan, to Boston? In August, 1961?
I wonder who was in Boston...
In this long article by Maraniss, the quotes from Susan Blake don’t include the reportedly previous statement she made, that she never saw Stanley Ann again. I’m thinking the Maraniss article gave rise to the comment by Rick Anderson, which gave rise in turn to Charlette Le Fevre searching the Seattle directories, and ultimately making that telephone call to Mary, who had babysat for Anna Obama in January 1961.
And once Charlette told Mary she had babysat zero, it become history.
But who was Anna? And where was Stanley Ann Dunham...
It used to take some much time to read an entire thread or to catch up. But now there are so many posters that you can just skip over it takes no time at all!
That's Charles T Payne, he was Deputy Director of the Library at the Univserity of Chicago from after he finished whatever he studied on the GI Bill until his retirement some 60 years later, with his wife Melanie and a man I think is their son. They lived in Hyde Park and Melanie was on a committee in some small capacity, with the wife of David Axelrod.
It's a small world after all...
Oh, and the creature with the small head that looks like it's been coloured with Vegemite, well, you know who that is.
Like I said, there was no caption with the image. I can’t tell you who it is.
And now it’s almost 11pm here and I’m going to bed. Good night.
(This is also in reply to fred nerks’post 11244)
I believe there was only one girl, the Ann in the Hawaii Polk is the same lady as the Anna in the Seattle Polk.
Reason being, the research in this thread :
As to SADO’s time in Washington state in 1961, I remember this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2991236/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2905135/posts?page=89#89
“In 1973, the tax code required a person to be a U.S. Citizen or a U.S. resident before they were eligible to be claimed as a dependent.”
SvenMagnussen has not yet provided a link to the 1973 tax code to support this claim. The tax code as of 1973 has provisions for claiming dependent grandchildren living in the home provided that the child is not claimed by the parent from what I see in the 1954 IRS code as amended prior to the 1986 revision. Lolo and Ann not claiming Barry is consistent with the Dunhams claiming him beginning in 1972 with his full year student residency.
SvenMagnissen has provided no proof that Barry was NOT a de facto US citizen in 1973. The INS FOIA docs and newspaper birth notices corroborate that at a minimum a live birth of a US citizen Hawaii resident was reported to HDOH making Barry a de facto US citizen.
Barry may have also been registered as a UK subject and adopted by Lolo as an Indonesian citizen in Indonesia, but that there has been NO evidence I have seen that his US citizenship was removed.
“And btw, where was 3 year old Maya? Did the Dunhams also claim her as a dependent?”
Not enough facts are known to determine that but it is consistent with either:
1. Maya, a dual US/Indonesian citizen being claimed by Dunhams due to residing with them and being their dependent while Ann was pursuing her Ph.D. Maya (and Barry) could only be claimed as a dependent on one return.
2. Maya being left back in Indonsesia with the in-laws.
Again, as with Barry, NOT having Maya on the tax return does NOT mean certain loss of custody or nationality for either Maya and/or Barry.
The scenario: BHO Sr. wrote home to Kenya to say that he’d married “Anna Toot”. That’s ridiculous when you consider the obot explanation: Toot/Tut is Hawaiian for grandmother—except it isn’t. But even if it were, when he married Anna, Madelyn wasn’t yet a grandmother, nor was Anna, so why would anybody call either of them Toot (or Tut)?
“The other thing to consider is that David has shown that the UoWA transcripts are fake.”
There is NO evidence that the U of WA transcripts are fake, but there is evidence that some folks don’t know how to assess them and false claims of forgery have been made through inept reading of the WA transcript or intentional deception.
The INS FOIA Wood memo recording what BHO Sr. told Wood on 8/31/61 confirms Stanley Ann’s intent to go to a university in WA in the fall.
The following are cross-corroborations between the U of HI transcripts and U of WA final transcript notations:
1. The U of HI transcripts pick up Stanley Ann’s credits at the U of WA in the fall of 1961 and spring of 1962 and use them towards her BA degree.
2. The U of WA transcripts pick up Stanley Ann’s MA degree work at U of HI.
IMO the claims that the U of WA is forged were based on illogical observations that it didn’t look right for a 1961 transcript, but the final transcript put up by WND was NOT a 1961 transcript but a partially automated, partially typed 1970’s version in its final form which has also been corroborated by a verifiable image of the fully computerized version on the U of WA system which is available through FOIA today and also published by WND, IIRC.
All of the cross-corroborating, verifiable (could be produced in court) documents would have to be forged for the claim of forgery of the U of WA transcript to be true.
FReepers still in doubt might ask themselves why Stanley Ann’s attendance in WA would be forged by anyone when it DESTROYS Barry’s DREAMS narrative and proved that his parents NEVER lived together EVER when combined with the INS FOIA docs. That is extremely damaging to Barry’s falsely constructed persona.
“In this case, it doesn’t matter what his citizenship was.”
I agree.
Did you get that link from the comment below? The link doesn’t work anymore (for me anyway).
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2991236/posts?page=229#229
To: SvenMagnussen
Lolo Soetoro, Indonesian National, used SSN 575-52-3935, 1973 Federal tax return indicates no dependents/exemptions.
http://htmlimg3.scribdassets.com/94hl2qbfk011akkj/images/168-94eae5fa1b.jpg
1973 HI Income Tax Return, 1 dependent child identified as “Maya.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908395/posts?q=1&;page=251
see post 274— only 1 dependent Maya under Exemptions Section.
Both returns prepared by professional tax preparer.
I know the Federal return only shows exemptions for the two adults, but the line is blank for total exemptions. By exploring further, it’s obvious that one dependent child was claimed on the Federal return, just like the Hawaiian return. If you check the IRS instructions for the 1973 Form 1040 (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/i1040—1973.pdf), it’s obvious that Tax Table 3 on page 23 was used to figure the income tax. For an adjusted gross income of $4,250 - $4,300, the tax for married filing joint with three exemptions is $102.
As to why the child was not included on the line where she should have been? Having prepared returns in that era, I can see how that would happen. Ann had two children, but she and her husband weren’t earning very much. According to Wikipedia, Ann’s folks were paying for Obama to attend a private school. In order to claim a child on your tax return, you have to provide over 1/2 of their support. Since Ann’s folks were paying at least part of his tuition, they were probably providing over 1/2 his support and, as such, claimed him as a deduction on their tax return. At their income level, it was a greater benefit to them than to Ann, so it made sense. Back to why the exemption line was blank? My guess is that the preparer left that blank while they gathered data to see who could claim Obama on their tax return and never remembered to return to fill that line out. Nowadays computer programs won’t let you forget things like that, but computer prepared returns weren’t nearly as common back then. An easy mistake to make.
229 posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:41:14 PM by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
What Seizure is trying to tell us is ...
If don’t lap up every word of Obama’s false narrative in “Dreams From My Father” about the Paynes raising Obama in Honolulu, you’ve got a smoking gun. In 1973, a dependent had to be a U.S. Citizen or a foreign national who was a U.S. resident to claimed as a dependent on IRS Form 1040.
Without the false narrative Obama lived with his grandparents as a U.S. Citizen, then we can only conclude his parents couldn’t claim him on their 1973 tax return because he was not a U.S. citizen in 1973. With the false narrative provided by “Dreams”, any ConcernedFreeper would surmise the Paynes identified Obama as a dependent on their tax return because he was a U.S. Citizen or U.S. resident living with them the entire year and providing over half his support.
We know from the Strunk FOIA that Stanley Ann applied for a U.S. passport in Jan. 1972 for travel to Indonesia, to “return home” for an “indefinite” stay. In Aug. 1968, Stanley Ann amended her passport to include(exclude) Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah). In Jan. 1968, Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro, born in Honolulu, HI and Indonesian National was enrolled in St. Francis of Assisi Elementary, Djakarta, Indonesia.
There is certainly enough publicly available information to sustain an allegation Obama has an immigration file with DHS and the file contains evidence Obama is not eligible for POTUS.
What Seizure is trying to tell us is ...
If don’t lap up every word of Obama’s false narrative in “Dreams From My Father” about the Paynes raising Obama in Honolulu, you’ve got a smoking gun. In 1973, a dependent had to be a U.S. Citizen or a foreign national who was a U.S. resident to claimed as a dependent on IRS Form 1040.
Without the false narrative Obama lived with his grandparents as a U.S. Citizen, then we can only conclude his parents couldn’t claim him on their 1973 tax return because he was not a U.S. citizen in 1973. With the false narrative provided by “Dreams”, any ConcernedFreeper would surmise the Paynes identified Obama as a dependent on their tax return because he was a U.S. Citizen or U.S. resident living with them the entire year and providing over half his support.
We know from the Strunk FOIA that Stanley Ann applied for a U.S. passport in Jan. 1972 for travel to Indonesia, to “return home” for an “indefinite” stay. In Aug. 1968, Stanley Ann amended her passport to include(exclude) Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah). In Jan. 1968, Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro, born in Honolulu, HI and Indonesian National was enrolled in St. Francis of Assisi Elementary, Djakarta, Indonesia.
There is certainly enough publicly available information to sustain an allegation Obama has an immigration file with DHS and the file contains evidence Obama is not eligible for POTUS.
“In 1973, a dependent had to be a U.S. Citizen or a foreign national who was a U.S. resident to claimed as a dependent on IRS Form 1040.”
SvenMagnussen has provided no link or evidence to support his claim that this is a fact, as is nearly always the case.
This is right out of Trolling 101.
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