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The Bible’s explainer on UFOs
foxnews.com ^ | Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis, U.S. Army (ret.)

Posted on 08/06/2023 3:12:24 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

Washington is getting serious about reports of [UFO's], what the Pentagon now labels as unidentified aerial phenomena or UAPs. There is a long history of such sightings and the increase in such observations could be a sign of things to come.

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Following that hearing a group of lawmakers asked the House speaker to form a committee to investigate government programs involving UAPs. Specifically, they requested "subpoena authority" to collect information [...] What are we to make of this news? Well, there are many reports of strange objects in the sky dating from ancient times.

Historian Josephus wrote of a mysterious spectacle that occurred over Israel in A.D. 70. "Chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour were seen running about among the clouds," wrote Josephus. There were numerous such events around the entire country as "armed battalions hurtling through the clouds" and with "great noise" causing "quakes." There are many other recorded events of unexplained UAPS over the past millennia.

More recently in America after World War II, the number of UFO sightings spiked, and as a result our government formed a number of task forces to investigate. Perhaps the best-known incident occurred in 1947 when Roswell Army Air Field personnel recovered debris from a "flying disc." However, in 1994 a U.S. Air Force report concluded the debris was from a top-secret nuclear test surveillance balloon.

UFOs/UAPs have long fascinated humanity. Unfortunately, we don’t understand such events.

I don’t dismiss the possibility we are being visited by aliens. Further, I’m quite aware there are things my five senses (sight, smell, touch, taste and hearing) can’t understand, and they may be real like radio waves. For example, I believe there is a very real spiritual domain beyond our senses. You can call them aliens, angels, demons or other.

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To: Openurmind
--- "...it absolutely makes sense...."

Agreed. And especially because there was a message to be conveyed as the gist of the tale.

41 posted on 08/06/2023 4:36:56 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: dfwgator

>>Just like “Shell Shock” became “Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder”.<<

Are you talking about “BATTLE FATIGUE”?

In medicine/nursing, the same phenom is rampant: One example. they “bed sores” became (I forget the exact order) “pressure sores”, “decubitus ulcers”, “acute ischemic something-something” all in about a 20-25 year period.


42 posted on 08/06/2023 4:41:37 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Why are there so many more horse's @33es than horses?)
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To: RoosterRedux

https://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/connections/faith/2017/10/30/ufos-bible-retired-pastor-says-so/803936001/

https://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/connections/faith/2021/06/15/ufos-and-bible-pastor-and-author-downing-says-they-may-angels/7684053002/

Dr. Frank E. Stranges:

“The Bible, he said, records many UFOs—if one is willing to interpret the Scriptures correctly. “You’ve got to read the Bible with a spiritual mind,” he explained.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-18-me-94-story.html


43 posted on 08/06/2023 4:47:06 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“And especially because there was a message to be conveyed as the gist of the tale.”

And as preached all the time, THIS is the main importance.


44 posted on 08/06/2023 4:48:10 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Jonah...
Really?-— never heard that One!


45 posted on 08/06/2023 4:49:34 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: dragnet2

They call it Lucifer.


46 posted on 08/06/2023 4:50:09 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: RoosterRedux
Yep. As much as I don't like Pope Frankie, the Vatican is way ahead of the rest of humanity when it comes to UFO's.

I think they have an optical observatory in Italy as well...

47 posted on 08/06/2023 4:51:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RoosterRedux

If I post anything, I would put in chat, ‘cause you never know what moderators will do. I’m not a mind reader.


48 posted on 08/06/2023 4:57:12 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: Big Red Badger

These craft are known to travel underwater as well as the sky. And they have been around forever interacting with man both in the sky and in the sea. Jonah was aided by one of these crafts. But with extremely primitive knowledge he would have to compare it with something that it resembled to him.

A big fish.


49 posted on 08/06/2023 5:10:27 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: roving

Lucifer telescope?

Okey doke


50 posted on 08/06/2023 5:11:21 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Openurmind

Very interesting.


51 posted on 08/06/2023 5:16:44 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I keep telling folks, read it all over again with Aliens and UFOs on the mind. They describe aliens and UFOs throughout but with metaphors we can only now make a comparative connection to. :)


52 posted on 08/06/2023 5:27:25 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: BenLurkin

No reason to keep it far away.


53 posted on 08/06/2023 5:30:25 PM PDT by madison10
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To: BenLurkin

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051151/Governments-HIDING-aliens-claims-former-defence-minister-Paul-Hellyer-urges-world-leaders-reveal-secret-files.html


54 posted on 08/06/2023 5:31:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

That’s kind of narrow minded thinking when you think aliens must travel light year distances approaching light speed. Maybe they figured out wormhole type travel. Maybe they’re here but just in another dimension and travel easily between. We send craft to other planets and they crash.. quite often and we see piloted aircraft crash all the time as well.

Thinking our narrow minded beliefs in science, physics and our place in the universe is all there is an odd way to see things.


55 posted on 08/06/2023 5:55:42 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: RoosterRedux

https://rumble.com/v357d1o-stop-the-coup.html

Anything is possible with God..


56 posted on 08/06/2023 5:56:22 PM PDT by aces (and )
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To: Saintgermain

Dr. Steven Greer

/\

I’ve watched a couple of his videos

Sorry, aliens are not our older brothers from space

They are fallen angels, nephiliam and demonic.


57 posted on 08/06/2023 6:08:32 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

The world leaders are listening to satanic entities.

I have zero doubt they are buying everything they say hook line and sinker.
It will not end well.

But at least the.good Lord warned us about all this.

/-)


58 posted on 08/06/2023 6:12:30 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: BenLurkin

“Because, my FRiends, it will lead to nothing but trouble.”

I understand your concerns here based on accusations of heresy by associating science with the Bible. But with all due respect may I share an observation with you?

I find it strange that almost all threads which concern “science” including UFOs are attacked by the faithful here as heresy, no matter where they are posted. They come and try to bury them in scat. But I do not see those who would like to discuss science or UFOs scatting in the Religion forum at all.

Why is it one side of this debate gives due courtesy and the other does not? It would be rude and disrespectful to go derail all the threads in the Religion forum with science to try and debunk religion. But it does not happen...

Why is there not mutual respect for free discussion in return as it should be? You seem to be alluding to the idea one topic has license and one does not? I would truly like to know if this is the case and we are not supposed to openly discuss certain theories here.


59 posted on 08/06/2023 6:28:10 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: RoosterRedux

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

1Jo 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

1Jo 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world

The above is for testing spiritual beings encountered as well as false prophets.

Glad I ran a comparison. Quite a number of translations leave this part out:

KJV

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Clarke's Commentary:

Verse 3
Verse 1 John 4:3. Every spirit — Every teacher, that confesseth not Jesus, is not of God - has not been inspired by God. The words εν σαρκιεληλυθοτα, is come in the flesh, are wanting in AB, several others, both the Syriac, the Polyglot Arabic, AEthiopic, Coptic, Armenian, and Vulgate; in Origen, Cyril, Theodoret, Irenaeus, and others. Griesbach has left them out of the text.

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/acc/1-john-4.html

Looks like it's pretty important because without it, "every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God" could be used to legitimize any so-called Jesus. Get enough people on board with a fake Jesus and bad things happen to those who refuse to accept the popular "Jesus".

Could be that the test is to observe and 'flesh out' just these sorts of issues.

Elijah was taken up to heaven in a whirlwind without seeing death, but then returned as a new baby named John.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

If there were any fake Elijahs/Eliases running around at the time, they might have presented themselves as the "right age", and taken on the original name/alias of the prophet. That's what their marks would have been expecting.

Obviously there are simple, ingenious, out-of-left-field ways to outwit the frauds in ways that they would never anticipate.

60 posted on 08/06/2023 6:41:32 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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