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What History Says About Whether The United States Will Fall Like the Roman Empire
The Federalist ^ | 07/02/2022 | Kenneth Calvert

Posted on 07/02/2022 2:41:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Yes, the history of Rome often sounds like our own. But then, it sounds like most every other civilization that has existed in any part of the world at any time in history.

The bad news for Americans wondering if we are “like ancient Rome” is that all civilizations come to an end. This often happens on the heels of great success.

Nowhere was this truer than with the Roman Republic. The Roman general Scipio Aemilianus burst into tears as he and his troops finally and thoroughly destroyed the city of Carthage. We are told,

After being wrapped in thought for long, and realizing that all cities, nations, and authorities must, like men, meet their doom; that this happened to Troy, once a prosperous city, to the empires of Assyria, Media, and Persia, the greatest of their time, and to Macedonia . . . without any attempt at concealment Scipio named his own country . . . when he reflected on the fate of all things human.

Remarkably, Scipio seemed to be something of a prophet in 146 B.C., as the Roman Republic soon began to unravel. Rome had been rooted in local rule, agrarian pursuits, selfless citizenship, and republican virtues. Now they fought over land, wealth, luxuries, slaves, and the power that came with empire.

Over the following century, political assassinations, mob rule, and the rise of tyranny became the norm. At the end of it, the fate of the republic was left to emperors who, for all intents and purposes, were kings posing as traditional Romans.

At the end of the first century A.D., the historian Tacitus considered the death of the first emperor, Augustus. He wrote,

. . . the Republic had been revolutionized, and there was not a vestige left of the old sound morality. Stripped of equality, all looked up to the commands of a sovereign . . . as the end was near and new prospects opened, a few spoke in vain of the blessings of freedom, but most people dreaded and some longed for war. The popular gossip of the large majority fastened itself variously on their future masters.

The history that followed certainly had moments of genius. However, the ultimate sack of Rome in A.D. 410 arose from long centuries of internal struggles very much like those that destroyed the republic.

Added to greed, avarice, and incompetence was a mix of climate change, unstable borders, and an elite population soaked in corruption. All told, you have a basic understanding of what destroyed the Roman world.

Yes, the history of this civilization often sounds like our own. But then, it sounds like most every other civilization that has existed in any part of the world at any time in history. There is something consistent and familiar everywhere you travel in human history.

Believe it or not, this is where the good news is found. Yes, America is a republic, but it is not, by any means, Rome. This observation was made in correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in 1819. Jefferson wrote,

I ask myself What was that government which the virtues of Cicero were so zealous to restore, & the ambition of Caesar to subvert? . . . I do not say to restore it, because they never had it . . . if their people indeed had been, like ours, enlightened, peaceable, and really free, the answer would be obvious. ‘restore independance (sic) to all your foreign conquests, relieve Italy from the government of the rabble of Rome, consult it as a nation entitled to self-government, and do it’s will.

What is important here is that the American Founders were not naïve about the weaknesses of Rome. In particular, they despised the emperors and sought whatever good they could find in the old republic.

The American Founders admired the Roman virtues of citizenship and piety, and the Roman government balanced by the citizens, Senate, and magistrates. However, there was no idea of “rights” among the Roman citizens. Only power.

The Romans would never have created a “Declaration of Independence” in which these beautiful, high-minded words would be announced: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

This sort of thinking could only have emerged after the prohibition of the gladiatorial bloodlettings of the Roman world, or the imperialistic greed of the emperors. It could never have been written by a society that believed the enslavement of human beings to be the norm. While some signers of the Declaration, like all humans, struggled with hypocrisy, their ideals have made America great in a way that Rome could have never imagined.

America, like all republics, has freedoms that allow citizens the right to go insane. No free nation will be free of human nature. The current internal and external threats to America do not have to bring, out of necessity, its destruction.

The good news is that America has stronger foundations than Rome ever knew, and those foundations not only seem to be holding, many Americans are rediscovering those foundations in the midst of a modern contest for the soul of the nation.


Dr. Kenneth Calvert is a professor of ancient history at Hillsdale College. His lectures on Rome can be found in the Hillsdale online course: "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Republic," free at online.hillsdale.edu. The course was introduced on the Ides of March, 2022.


TOPICS: Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: bloggerkaren; bloggertrash; climatechange; decline; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; hillsdalecollege; kennethcalvert; michigan; ntsa; romanempire; rome; usa
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To: SeekAndFind
Rome was also beset by a population whose reproduction fell below replacement level and the influx of foreign populations given citizenship for little or no participation. Fortunately the United States isn't...oh, wait a minute...never mind.

I remain optimistic, however. The American model depends on a population that demands freedom and is willing to work for it. There have been several periods when that has lapsed into laziness and plenty and a desire for security over freedom but they have been brief - unfortunately, brief because they were interrupted by war and economic disaster. Two-edged sword there. Still, while some of those Roman invaders sacked the place there were some who composed some of Rome's most loyal and brilliant citizens, even during the decline, and became the authors of the new Christian civilization to follow.

21 posted on 07/02/2022 3:13:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The Pinochet / Franco approach?


22 posted on 07/02/2022 3:15:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind
Added to greed, avarice, and incompetence was a mix of climate change, unstable borders, and an elite population soaked in corruption. All told, you have a basic understanding of what destroyed the Roman world.

There are about forty different reasons the Roman Empire collapsed, but I think the number one reason was the cultural differences between East and West. By 250 AD, the Christian East was simply no longer compatible with the pagan West.

Another important secondary reason was that the wealthy and productive Eastern provinces got weary of sending their wealth (annual tax payments) to a corrupt and decadent Rome.

23 posted on 07/02/2022 3:16:22 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: cymbeline
If we have an all-powerful central government then all of us fall. If we have power shared between it and the states, basically there are 51 entities and all of them aren’t going to fall.

That is why there is such a push to eliminate the electoral college, which, like it or not, is gaining traction.

24 posted on 07/02/2022 3:16:44 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: SeekAndFind

Well if we do go all the way down Rome’s road, best to have a plan of Reconstruction. I am ready!


25 posted on 07/02/2022 3:18:24 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Savage Beast

You have a core of true Patriots - mostly Christians but some others - who are not going this way and who will survive to thrive, as a group, IMO


26 posted on 07/02/2022 3:20:03 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: laplata

No nation could survive what the United States is now undergoing 24/7 for very long.
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Departure from Gods word. History? Biblical history shows nations always sooner or later depart from God, for many reasons. However, in the west’s “ recent” history, those that adhered to God’s word flourished, those that depart suffer the consequences of “ Man’s” word….which is where we are at today….without a return to God, I fully expect a spiral down the toilet.


27 posted on 07/02/2022 3:27:03 PM PDT by delta7
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To: SaveFerris

Amen.


28 posted on 07/02/2022 3:28:07 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Migration/immigration destroys. There is nothing conservative about r's and d's. Rip USA.


29 posted on 07/02/2022 3:30:32 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: SeekAndFind

The Roman Empire didn’t have the Internet, the perfect vehicle for curiosity.


30 posted on 07/02/2022 3:31:41 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: SeekAndFind
Americans had a lot of energy. They were able to direct their excess energy outward, first in territorial expansion, then in trade, then in military activity.

When the Cold War ended we were on top of the world. We didn't have anywhere else to go. Our efforts in the Middle East sputtered out.

So now we turn our energy inward on each other. Instead of building up the country, people are tearing it down because it gives them something to do and a feeling of being useful.

Maybe we will once again find a goal for all of our activity. Maybe it will be to keep up with China. Maybe China passes us and they become the active, world-changing, world dominating nation.

It's tough. When you're at the top, you don't have anywhere to go. Then one day you wake up and realize that you aren't on top anymore and haven't been for some time.

31 posted on 07/02/2022 3:33:01 PM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Near the end, about a third of the population of Italy were slaves.

Rome grew when it had citizens who owned their own land and would fight ferociously to defend it.

Rome collapsed when the wealthy imported massive numbers of cheap slave labor, and the jobless citizenry no longer was willing to fight.


32 posted on 07/02/2022 3:37:58 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: x
then in trade

Wait, what?

33 posted on 07/02/2022 3:39:01 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

We were a big exporter starting in the 19th century until Europe and the Far East recovered in the 1970s.


34 posted on 07/02/2022 3:41:19 PM PDT by x
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To: delta7

Correct.


35 posted on 07/02/2022 3:43:52 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Persevero

We have the blueprints for that. It is the constitution.


36 posted on 07/02/2022 3:48:13 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: JBW1949

Not a big believer that a nation that withstood a secession movement in the middle of a foreign war (War of 1812); that survived an actual war of secession; that survived a great depression made worse by the president is gonna fall from a bunch of tinpot lefties.

In fact, as I have written, we are on the precipice of magnificent success. (https://larrys.substack.com/publish/post/62208248) The court victories are just the beginning. Nov will see massive legislative victories, followed by a probably historical Trump wave in 24, followed slowly by a cultural turn as predicted by the generational historians Strauss and Howe.

PS. Rome wasn’t blessed by God and you’re about to see His blessings explode on that 60% of the country that is ditching abortions.


37 posted on 07/02/2022 3:52:11 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Can patriotic Americans do something fast enough and substantive enough to stop the leftist project?

Not only did the swamp not get drained, it seems to be deeper than ever.

38 posted on 07/02/2022 3:57:12 PM PDT by Wissa (The winds and waves are always on the side of the ablest navigators.)
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To: Savage Beast

(Hollywood movies, TV programs, and popular culture spew filth everywhere.)

Yes. Absolutely. Unfortunately.

While I don’t believe the USA is the Whore of Babylon (you didn’t say it was) our culture doesn’t appear to be much different.


39 posted on 07/02/2022 3:59:36 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Persevero
Yes. IMO you're right.

After all the wokies self-destruct, decent people will be thriving.

40 posted on 07/02/2022 3:59:50 PM PDT by Savage Beast (You are not walking this path alone--all who walked before you are lifting you. --Michael Singer)
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